Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

[AgendaPoster]

Tiny bit of fun with our shitlib-always-realigning-Zionist boi

 

[Nadine9]

You guys super stoked about the 3hr circle jerk that will be Turkey Tom’s Destiny documentary? I love documentaries that are so overtly bias. It’s not even dropped and I can tell you Turkey Tom is not going to go in on him or ask hard hitting questions. Tiny also will control criticism of himself when and where he can. Hey, I’m always willing to be wrong though, I just have massive doubts.

 

[CreamyHerman’s]

I hate him because he is 4’10 on a good day.

Don't forget that he is a cuck

 

[Seymour Butts]

"Hide my astroturfing anymore?" Are you retarded? It's my first post, and I'm a Destiny viewer. Talking about "drop the curtain," you projecting little rat.
Also, what the fuck is that paragraph? You're obsessed brother. Your manic nonsense aside, you claimed it's manufactured drama keeping him relevant. I just provided you with evidence you're clearly wrong. Now, go ahead and write another paragraph about how much you hate Destiny, you lowlife piece of trash

Destiny fans calling other people obsessed is really funny when you and your cucklord idol are seething about Hasan 24/7
You're so obsessed that even your username here is based on him

 

[World in Scarlet]

The people who think Finkelstein looked like a clueless moron without self control can point to things he said and did to justify that opinion.

The people who think Destiny got totally owned by legendary scholar Finkelstein can point to... Finkelstein losing his composure and calling Destiny names. Also, did you know that Destiny is a cuckold and a sex pervert?

 

[RedditorsAreFags]

The people who think Destiny got totally owned by legendary scholar Finkelstein can point to... Finkelstein losing his composure and calling Destiny names. Also, did you know that Destiny is a cuckold and a sex pervert?

People have literally reponded directly to you in this very thread, retard.

 

[cia-log]

I think to some degree it's because he's the protogenator debate bro and Hasan and Vaush are just his unholy spawn. Hasan is less intelligence than mold and Vaush has always been an even bigger degenerate than Tiny, so whatever the reason it's not hard for him to carve out a niche. I'd like to think that the market they all occupy is just ripe for complete takeover by someone halfway decent, but then it occurs to me that no one with a modicum of decency would care to be there.

Right, the sad reality is that Destiny really is better than other breadtubers at arguing, and more rational. He was the one breadtuber I can think of off the top of my head to actually stop and look at the facts when it came to Kyle Rittenhouse instead of just spewing buzzwords to a leftist audience.

He fucked up letting that success get to his head and thinking that meant he was capable of academic debate. The Rittenhouse case was simple, caught almost entirely on video, and the background was about as uncomplicated as these things can get. When your debate opponents are mostly idiot twitch streamers it's not hard to wreck them in debate by just pointing out the obvious. He's not cut out for anything more than that. We all watched him make up his mind on the conflict before he could even point to Israel/Palestine on a map and then desperately scrape together information he hoped would give him a win.

That's why you don't see academics on that side of youtube. Why spend decades of your life studying to just waste your time with someone you know beforehand isn't prepared to debate you on the substance and will just spend all their time attacking your character, the way Destiny spent hours doing to Finkelstein before, during, and after the debate? Add to that the fact that that particular audience needs the constant key dangling of injokes, sets, lights, animations, or in Destiny's case Factorio gameplay and trying to dunk on people instead of discussing the actual topic, why would they waste their time?

His idiot fans are still going around triumphantly claiming that dolus specialis isn't mens rea, and so that means Finkelstein lost the debate. The fact that none of them looked this up just to make sure they weren't going around looking like complete fools tells you they're not serious about the facts, they're just in it for the spectacle.

 

[the clap]

I can think of a way to resolve this - get Finklestein on the Bridges podcast lol

 

[Sammich]

Also, did you know that Destiny is a cuckold and a sex pervert?

You forgot teeny tiny little manlet, and was investigated for being a pedophile.

 

[ovqsnfat]

He was the one breadtuber I can think of off the top of my head to actually stop and look at the facts when it came to Kyle Rittenhouse instead of just spewing buzzwords to a leftist audience.

I think when it comes to the Rittenhouse stuff, its more of a broken clock being right twice a day. I think Tiny has no actual genuine political beliefs and on any given issue just picks whatever he believes will be the "winning side". Unlike a lot of other grifters however he will refuse to back down or switch sides even in the face of overwhelming evidence against his perspective. This is because to his fragile ego, if you concede anything ever then you are suddenly disqualified from being correct ever again. That's the only motivation for things like the "animal rape is fine" take he had when debating that vegan.

 

[World in Scarlet]

People have literally reponded directly to you in this very thread, retard.

Either quote me properly or ping me. I don't get a notification for people copy pasting things I wrote.

You can use the inline quote feature to select sections of longer posts.

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I'm not saying Destiny has deep knowledge about this conflict or that his takes are right, but that Finkelstein is a hack moron who showed his ass in this debate and lost all credibility in my eyes.

Yes, Morris says he was really talking about "lawful and peaceful acquisition of land" but Morris was being slippery and Finkelstein knew it.

Are you reading Finkelstein's mind? If he knew that, he kept it to himself. I think what he did say was one of the little speeches he memorizes without having in depth knowledge of what he's talking about, and he was thus unable to respond when people didn't just agree with him. It's apparently good enough for the cattle on social media who clap at his interrupting and insulting debate partners (who he agreed to talk to, if he was that bent out of shape about Destiny, he could have replaced him).
On the other side, Destiny and Morris made Finkelstein repeatedly admit he doesn't know things he really should, considering the things he says.

It's kind of crazy you'd use that specific argument as an example because it's absolutely not in Destiny's favor. Kids were obliterated in a direct targeted airstrike, something agreed upon by
* all of the witnesses
* all of the evidence
* every independent investigator

And by Destiny, so what's the point?
If the Israeli command is so bloodthirsty, someone who studied the conflict his entire life could have responded by showing that IDF command systematically clears frivolous strikes. Or he could have explained that the decision-making for such is not very involved.
But Finkelstein apparently doesn't have a clue about decision-making apparatuses in the IDF and didn't give any examples. He instead started to yell insults.

He could have said something like "the Israelis conducted studies to determine how to minimize caloric intake of Gazans just short of starvation" or how one official said he wanted to "put Palestinians on a diet"

What Finkelstein said in reality was that he knows nothing about any of this.

Destiny [...] had just claimed that literally nuking Gaza wouldn't qualify as genocidal.

It wouldn't on its own, genocide requires both the action and the mindset. The bombing of Axis cities during WW II is not generally considered genocidal either, and that includes nuclear weapons use.
Since we're on the topic of fantasizing about how Finkelstein COULD have owned Destiny if only he wanted to, he could have said "dolus specialis and mens rea mean the same thing in this context, you fantastical moron are so clueless that you can't even see the gaps in your knowledge". What he said instead was to the effect of "I have never heard the term".

Finkelstein didn't fall back on calling him a fantastic moron because he had no counterargument

I've yet to see evidence for this cope claim.
Either Finkelstein is a terrible debater who appears to not know things that are at the core of his field, or he actually doesn't know these things and that is why he doesn't bring them up. His grandstanding about international law made it look like he was solely concerned with "owning" antagonists, rather than having a productive conversation, same with all the insults and interruptions, so I think he does in fact not know these things.

Apparently it worked, and I'll grant that if you know nothing about the conflict or Benny Morris he could come off as fairly reasonable and convincing

Exactly. Finkelstein didn't help himself with his flattery, building up Morris as a superior (to Finkelstein) authority on the matter.

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Not sure, but I remember he, Keffals, Vaush, and Hasan were invited to meet with the Biden admin but Hasan tard-bombed the deal.

He probably has some establishment eyes on him, but I don’t know how far it goes.

The Democrats should be glad that Hassan torpedoed that it would have been the greatest gift to the Republican Party in the world hey is this guy we invited to the White House is a big personality who just got caught looking at drawn CP .
An American deserve 9/11 platforms actual terrorists you're just writing Republican attack ads for them contrary to popular belief the vast majority of the democratic partying voting base are not far left lunatics

 

[ViM]

And by Destiny, so what's the point?
If the Israeli command is so bloodthirsty, someone who studied the conflict his entire life could have responded by showing that IDF command systematically clears frivolous strikes. Or he could have explained that the decision-making for such is not very involved.
But Finkelstein apparently doesn't have a clue about decision-making apparatuses in the IDF and didn't give any examples. He instead started to yell insults.

And here's exactly why Mr. Morelli's debate style is so obnoxious: the core of the disagreement was the pro-Israelis saying that the IDF is morally superior because they never target civilians and the pro-Palestinians using this specific incident as evidence to the contrary. Rather than engage with the core of the disagreement, Mr. Banelli swerved to quiz Finkelstein about irrelevant minutiae so he could fish for a gotcha. It could be that every strike is written off on by hundreds of lawyers in a Stalinesque bureaucracy or there could be no oversight whatsoever and it would be completely fucking irrelevant to the core of the disagreement. It isn't even an argument.

This was after over an hour of Mr. Farelli using similarly bad faith tactics and contributing basically nothing to the discussion whatsoever. At least by yelling insults Finkelstein managed to create some value out of Mr. Mornell besides midwit musings and contradiction without counterargument.

The rest of your reply is basically irrelevant to the thread, but if you're so convinced that Finkelstein is a lolcow then you're welcome to take your blood vendetta to a thread specifically dedicated to him rather than continuing to derail this one

 

[HamasAbi]

Destiny fans calling other people obsessed is really funny when you and your cucklord idol are seething about Hasan 24/7
You're so obsessed that even your username here is based on him

I'm not interested in talking about Hasan. Nice bait, though!

 

[#lurker]

I'm not saying Destiny has deep knowledge about this conflict or that his takes are right, but that Finkelstein is a hack moron who showed his ass in this debate and lost all credibility in my eyes.

You're really hung up on the idea of who won. Nobody cares. We are laughing at Norm calling him a retard, because he's a retard. It's really that simple. You don't need to make cope posts about how Norm shouldn't have insulted Destiny.

 

[EGD]

I remember watching a debate between Destiny and Dylan Burns and saw that destiny came off as an absolutely drug addled schizoid. At one point Destiny basically slips up and says it would've been noble for Palestinians to kill Jewish settlers and the like in 1948 roughly at the timestamp 19:26. He reallys
sounded like a raging antisemite in that debate specifically and it'd ruin his day if it were clipped and went viral: https://youtube.com/watch?v=CfoIMFLZ_RE&si=pYIL_YnvfhVDdbEg

Now of course I'll compare it to his current stance from today when that debate I linked was from months earlier: https://x.com/curaffairs/status/1769921076304179691?s=20

I think if someone clips the part I specifically mentioned earlier in the Dylan Burns debate it would easily show much of a bloodthirsty hypocrite he is. Again, if someone really posted a hit tweet about it he'd probably get smacked with a metaphorical chair by the media. Imagine if Piers Morgan got a hold of this and grilled Destiny on it!

 

[World in Scarlet]

It could be that every strike is written off on by hundreds of lawyers in a Stalinesque bureaucracy or there could be no oversight whatsoever and it would be completely fucking irrelevant to the core of the disagreement.

The question is collateral damage vs deliberate killing of civilians, so it is relevant.

The rest of your reply is basically irrelevant to the thread, but if you're so convinced that Finkelstein is a lolcow then you're welcome to take your blood vendetta to a thread specifically dedicated to him rather than continuing to derail this one

Whether Finkelstein epicly owned Destiny cannot be discussed without talking about Finkelstein's performance in the debate.

 

[Nadine9]

Let’s not forget Destiny doesn’t even care about I/P, he’s literally said to nuke them all twice on stream. He has no moral inclination to anything going on in that conflict, he just gets a woody playing devils advocate. I don’t even think he really cares about people in general. Who cares if Fink looked bad, doesn’t change the fact that if I had to choose who rightfully had a seat at that table I still wouldn’t pick Destiny, he's literally bottom of the barrel for who should be included in these discussions. He’s not even in the barrel , he’s fallen out. I’ve heard many people express what a wasted opportunity it was to have a debate on this amongst these guys and then to throw in an absolute nobody in terms of this topic.

Someone mentioned on Twitter perfectly that any politically-minded person who gives a damn has been immersed in this topic for nearly as long as they've even been politically-minded. Destiny knew nothing about anything on the topic until this year and yet he’s being propped up as this powerhouse that got the better of Fink. Get fucking real. I have no problem with Norm going off on him, it’s an important service nay civic duty to call an imbecile an imbecile especially if someone is a well known “political intellectual” that has an impressionable audience. I mean how else will he learn and improve for next time (if he even bothers to self-reflect which I don’t think he does) and who knows maybe for some people in his audience it could obscure their rose covered glasses and they will stop sucking on Tiny’s dune worm and take time to consider other arguments with a more open mind instead of being manipulated by destiny well before the debate even takes place and before it even drops.

This twitter post is perfect:

Thank God Destiny is on this panel. His expertise in (???) and his thoughtful discourse on (???) will prove useful to unravel this multigenerational ethno-religious blood feud.

 

[Noom Boom]

Would I get called a conspiracy theorist if I said Destiny is obviously being propped up by a rich DNC donor as a pro-establishment talking head, just like Hasan is? I would, but it's still 100% accurate. Why else would Lex Friedman keep pushing him fucking everywhere despite a total lack of credibility or knowledge? Why else would we get all these comically lopsided appearances at public events with people who are way way more accomplished than him?

Because Destiny's career is fake and gay, propped up by shillbux. I wouldn't be surprised if most of his defenders were also just people with a financial interest in making him look credible.

AIPAC is giving money to influencers and streamers. So it is realistic that he is just one of them.

He probably has some establishment eyes on him, but I don’t know how far it goes.

We don't really have to speculate on this one. We know he is working closely with a PAC called "Progressive Victory" to do canvassing events in places like Ohio and New York. Progressive Victory has streamers in the Destiny orbit like Wick and Pixi on consistent payroll, so it isn't impossible Destiny is also getting a bit of money. Conversely, Destiny has fund raised something like $70k for the events, so who knows which way the money is really flowing. Regardless, last time I ran the numbers, he is making something close to a million a year completely openly through YouTube, Kick, whatever else, so just like Hasan, there is no need for a conspiracy to explain why he is so passionate about his stances.

Oh, and I wanted to point this out: this is actually a deception indicator I notice all the time. I don't know if there's a name for it but I guess I can call it "Appeal to Incompetence." Where people who are really shit at lying will try to convince you they're telling the truth by pointing out how retarded their lie is.

I don't know if people like @Radon are DGG astroturfers, and the argument of "would I really do something this stupid" is not sound, but he is right. If any of these many accounts that have taken a sudden interest in this tread post Finkle debate are DGG under cover agents trying to get the forces of Kiwi Farms on their side, they are utterly retarded.

"Hide my astroturfing anymore?" Are you retarded? It's my first post, and I'm a Destiny viewer. Talking about "drop the curtain," you projecting little rat.
Also, what the fuck is that paragraph? You're obsessed brother. Your manic nonsense aside, you claimed it's manufactured drama keeping him relevant. I just provided you with evidence you're clearly wrong. Now, go ahead and write another paragraph about how much you hate Destiny, you lowlife piece of trash

I cannot imagine why you would think it a good idea to come in here, admit to being a Destiny fan, and attempt to defend him? Even if you were right, you would be disregarded and laughed at. You know where you are, right?

And just to shit on everyone, while I do not know who "won" this debate, I didn't watch it and don't care about Israel or Palestine, both these countries can get nuked into sand for all it's worth to me, people in here are objectively incapable of giving an unbiased opinion on if Destiny ever does well anywhere. Not 3 months ago people were rubbing their dicks raw jacking it at the thought of Destiny get ass raped in his divorce and no amount of reasoning could get people off the thought that he'd lose millions. Now, the whole thing has been finalized and it cost less than a cheap weekend at Vegas. I get everyone hates the guy, but Jesus, it's just pathetic sometimes.

 

[Nadine9]

I get everyone hates the guy, but Jesus, it's just pathetic sometimes.

Do YOU know where you are?