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There are a lot of yes/maybe answers in the replies. When you consider that taking HRT is a choice, they are effectively saying that being gay is also a choice and HRT is a form of conversion therapy by extension. I guess sexuality is an inherent and immutable characteristic only so far as it's convenient to your narrative. Maybe if gay men just took a bit more synthetic testosterone, they'd be able to inject the gay away.
Obviously this is all horseshit because 99% of troons and pooners are "lesbians" and "gays" respectively, which is a curious 1:1 inversion of the proportionality of those groups among so-called cis people. What a strange coincidence.
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I somehow knew I was a lesbian before I knew I was a trans woman."
I think what you mean to say is "I was a straight man, but then I allowed my AGP to take control of my life. Now I'm a straight man in a dress".
Historical note: It was tried in the 1950s as an experimental cure for homosexuality.
Experiment failed when it made them into hornier homos.
That's interesting and I wasn't aware of that (although I could have predicted that outcome).
This is where I think the internet has played such a big part in the spread of this whole tranny disease.
Just imagine we're in the before times when there was no internet. You're a lonely, damaged man thinking to yourself in isolation that you may have actually been a woman born in the wrong body all along. You might rationally think to yourself "Wait a minute, I'm attracted to women like the overwhelming majority of men are. Maybe I'm not a woman after all and in fact just a confused man who needs some counselling".
Well, now that Reddit and other such online spaces have codified transwomen as all being """lesbians""", that inhibiting factor to your transition has now been conveniently removed. All transwomen are lesbians, it doesn't matter that you were born male and are attracted to women. You are valid and should chop your cock off at the earliest convenience. Right this way ma-am, That'll be 40 grand.
This is how we know that gender identity is bullshit, because it's ancillary to sexuality. You can no more convince a straight man that he's not into pussy/a gay man that he's not into cock any more than you can convince an obligate carnivore to eat a salad.
Okay, I'm gonna write an essay on this.
Several headup:
- The scientific evidence is so overwhelming I'm not going to debate it.
- I'm a bisexual male. And no, I don't hate myself because of that.
- Depending on your ideological inclinations you mind find this post disturbing, bigoted, etc...
- Some things are oversimplified because life's too short
Drugs, hormones and behavioural therapy are proven to be able to modify someone's sexuality.
Let's start with
DRUGS & HORMONES
Extremely common cases include:
- Trenbelone, "trenbelonni" or tren- a commonly used steroid for bodybuilders and the like, a known side effect is making men tranny chasers, gay or bisexual, to the point there's memes about this. Men that are attracted to men, especially bisexual men, are way way more masculine than average, hormonally and physically speaking (penis length for instance).
- Metamphetamine/Bath Salts/Cocaine- Hardcore stimulants can make someone "hypersexual" or "nymphomaniac" in a sense, stimulants are aphrodisiacs, that is, they increase libido. Some meth smokers are reportedly able to masturbate for days. There's some correlation between meth smoking and hardcore paraphilias like pedophilia and necrophilia.
John McAfee, who was a scat fetishist, was reportedly able to masturbate for 4 days straight while high on bath salts and covered in shit, not here nor there, I just think that's hilarious.
Well, now we have established that sexuality is not something "you're born with" let's get to the fun part:
BEHAVIOURAL THERAPY
Conversion therapy is a catch-all term for different sets of therapeutic practises, it's most modern encarnation being ABA.
Conservion therapy is scientifically proven to work to a large extent. It came about when a series of shrinks for autistic people wondered if they could to the same to turn gays straight. It is also proven effective in quitting drugs, self-improvement and reforming youth delinquents, you have a wonderful thread by local gigafaggot
@doodoocaca sperging about that here:
Conversion therapy seeks to modify what the US Military's discipline manuals call "intrinsic" and "extrinsic" behaviour, that's to say, for instance, mannerisms and inner beliefs. Not only you're trying to solve an external problem but also to brainwash someone, not only you're not going to act autistic/gay (masking) you're not going to be autistic/gay.
The reason why it's controversial to homosexuals it's because it has a high cost and a low but still presing risk of getting George Floyd'd or gigaraped. Autism is considered a pathology and homosexuality is not, so it's used for one but not for the other.
It uses very simple Pavlovian principles, you reward good behaviour and good sincerely held beliefs, you punish bad behaviour and bad sincerely held beliefs.
The interrogations and negative reinforcement is what's considered by some henious, this usually envolves:
- Bleach applied to the nose and mouth as some kind of "softcore" waterboarding
- Wearing muzzles/masks with gasoline or bleach poured into it
- Electric shock applied to genitals or anus
- Small cuts or small burns to genitals or anus
- Acid applied to genitals or anus
- Physical restraining until you stop sperging out/fagging around (with a small chance of George Floyding you as well for added fun)
- Sleep deprivation
- Food deprivation
- Ingesting your own vomit
- Loud music being played randomly
- Drinking large quantities of water
45% of the recipients of conversion therapy end up with PTSD.
Some have also tried to use it as an excuse to get away with torturing and killing their children, true crime youtuber Rotten Mango made a video about one of these cases:
TL;DR: Conversion therapy works, it uses simple Pavlovian principles, hormones and drugs affect sexuality.
Wow, that took so long.
