Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

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I don’t know if Norm would have bothered checking out Tiny’s stream after agreeing to debate, maybe to get the measure of him?
He absolutely watched some of his streams, if only briefly. Then again, Norm might have just relied on his decades of experience and deep knowledge of israel/palestine.
 
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He absolutely watched some of his streams, if only briefly. Then again, Norm might have just relied on his decades of experience and deep knowledge of israel/palestine.
I would be surprised if he sat down and actually watched any full streams. He definitely saw some clips though and watched his previous debates on the topic, I 'm pretty sure Finklestein threw quotes back at him a few times. Throwing quotes was essentially his entire debate strategy he spent hours doing the same to Morris. I'm sure people started spamming Destiny clips to Finklestein on twitter as soon as he agreed to do the debate.

I'm pretty sure its speculated (possibly confirmed) that Finklestein has some kind of research assistants or other employees that do things like run his twitter. Some young, radical, left wing grad student that would want to work for Finklestein would probably already know who Destiny is just because of how many shitfights he gets into on twitter over the topic. And I wouldn't be surprised if someone like that went through the effort to compile previous clips/tweets into a single document that Finklestein could review for ammunition
 
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He can't be full poly like Aella and her ilk, being that disconnected and casual about his hookups is the opposite of his personality.
I will support this. Tiny himself has said that very few people have the brain/personality to be in truly open and happy relationships and while I agree that is true, I think it is far fewer than he says, more in line with the number of people who are sexually attracted to inanimate objects or that like. But still, the little man strokes his ego with the idea that he is one of these special few who have the mental fortitude to look past the emotions of traditional romantic encounters and not catch feels.

Doing some back seat psychoanalyzing here, I think this is probably because he is well aware of his cold and detached personality with his loved ones combined with his propensity to engage in infidelity. If he is this special person, these traits make since, his brain is just wired differently and his coldness is just a misunderstood difference in expression. He does not truly not care about his partners, making him a bad person, it's just that traditional views of care include societal expectations of possession inherent in monogamous relationships. As he does not conform to monogamy, it is ok that he appears to love or care about his wife much less than normal people as it is the normal peoples fault for not understanding that they are just viewing his actions through their own biased lens. But we know this in not true in his case. Be it his initial finding of Melina, LS, Erin, or any of the other women who's names I cannot be bothered to go back and find, it has happened over and again that Destiny gets attached to his hookups. He has almost exactly the kind of emotional reaction we would expect of any normal person.

The reason Destiny cannot accept this as true is because if his personality traits aren't the result of some big brain ability to logic his way out of normal attachments (another attractive, ego boosting concept for him) than he'd have to come to terms that his coldness and inability to control himself from cheating is solely from some fundamental personality defect.

Now I personally don't subscribe to many here's ideas on degeneracy, I am far more libertarian on most matters, so to head off the accusations of not being able to see outside of my own worldview from the D.G.G. ers, I think people like Aella seem to be doing just fine and living a just fine life. The issue is not someone being in an open relationship, it is someone self deluding that they are they type of person to be in an open relationship to avoid self improvement while simultaneously destroying the lives of dozens, maybe hundreds at this point, of people around you just to feed your ego.

This post has turned out far more autistic than I had originally intended, but I will not delete as I spent too much time on it, I am sorry fellow Kiwi's.
 
Posters itt who thought he would date Awnuh or Zoo because he hooked up with them once and are mentally ill are absolutely retarded.

Especially ones that cited Lav, Ana, Cherry, or Delaguna as reasons why.

He hooked up with Lav once (spent 1 day with her), hooked up with Anavoir once (spent 1 weekend with her), meet up with Cherry twice and then dropped her once he realized she was crazy, and has fucked many other unstable women.

He clearly enjoys the drama of insane women online, thus continuing to sext them and engage with them. But that doesn’t mean he wants them in his life in a romantic/close way. I realized this fully after seeing the screenshots of his dms with Lav over the past 3-4 months where it was surprisingly her relentlessly simping and bidding for his attention and him blowing her off and giving short answers.

It’s machiavellian how he manoeuvres these types of women but I’m unsure if the same could be said about how he handled his relationship with Melina, the LS situation, or any of his other romantic/close relationships. The Layna girl hasn’t displayed obvious signs of mental illness yet other than being a whore. He didn’t just hook up with her once, over the course of 4(?) months this is her third visit and it appears as if she’s his live-in girlfriend for at least two months.

He’s met Zoo and Awnuh once each I believe. He engages with them online, he’s giving them the Lav, Cherry, Anavoir, ect treatment.

I don’t know if he’ll date the Layna girl, or his actual level of emotional involvement with her. Maybe he’s just enjoying the extra body in his apartment now that Melina is gone for good. As another poster said though, he does get attached even though he pretends he doesn’t. He seems to be going out of his way a lot for her, he’s moved around his whole bedroom to make way for her guitar and camming stuff from what it looks like. After dealing with the Melina green card stuff, it says something about how much he likes Layna if they do date, since he’s willing to choose someone out of the country again over a more convenient nearby chick.
 
Destiny is currently streaming the first episode of the "Anything Else?" podcast with Dan
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I love how this stream had more viewers than bridges. I think they peeked at 12k at one point. Probably because Dan likes to poke tiny a enough and the flow is actually natural. Add to the fact he doesnt want to fuck dan like he wants to fuck psychologist girl he does the other podcast with.

Also destiny mentioned his thread from here tonight. Dude is def keeping tabs on us.
 
ut how would you expect a man to react when his life’s work is being called into question by a YouTube streamer who knew nothing about anything of this conflict prior to Oct 7th and just wants to get on the band wagon of the political discourse regardless that he has no moral proclivity to any outcome.
I hate this kind of cope. "he is a youtube streamer" good, then it should be easy to dismantle his arguments and also use him to platform yourself and your ideas. But when the only answer is "I have read 10 000 books" then you read those 10000 books for nothing. Also life time work means nothing, probably we can find people whose lifetime work is lobotomy and they swear by it, that doesn't mean they are right and no one could question them. Actually go to the SRS thread and see some doctors life work and then tell me that me a nobody or a streamer can't criticize there life work.
 
I hate this kind of cope. "he is a youtube streamer" good, then it should be easy to dismantle his arguments and also use him to platform yourself and your ideas. But when the only answer is "I have read 10 000 books" then you read those 10000 books for nothing. Also life time work means nothing, probably we can find people whose lifetime work is lobotomy and they swear by it, that doesn't mean they are right and no one could question them. Actually go to the SRS thread and see some doctors life work and then tell me that me a nobody or a streamer can't criticize there life work.

I wouldn’t say it’s a cope, I don’t even know anything much about Finklestein except that he HAS spent far more time on the subject so as a uneducated human being on that particular subject I think that I probably defer to him and others dedicated to that subject if I were starting the process of educating myself rather than Tiny. However, I agree there’s no reason anyone should not be able to criticize a professionals work especially other professionals. My post was more about making the point that it’s retarded for Destiny and his audience to single out Finkelstein hurling insults at him during the debate be it justified or not as some big W for Tiny, like “look how emotional and unhinged he was” but then you also literally have Tiny doing the exact same thing justified or not. He didn’t do it during the actual debate but he did it weeks before the debate and definitely on more than one occasion which Finklestein could have possibly seen so therefore could be a reason why he was “disrespectful and dismissive of Tiny. Tiny is a fucking hypocrite and I’m criticizing him for it.
I don’t discredit Finklestein’s education for being emotional when it’s clearly a subject he is passionate about which tiny isn’t. He’s only passionate about winning. I certainly wouldn’t criticize destiny for trying to discredit Finkelstein based on his arguments not insults. I think it’s important that we always question people especially experts about their statements or arguments particularly if they contradict known facts or anything else they’ve said in the past, but you don’t have a leg to stand on about him insulting you or being “unhinged” when you were hurling them left and right yourself well before and well after.
 
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And sure I can criticize Finkelstein for being that emotional, because yeah, it didn’t come off great but if he had seen any of the things tiny had said about him prior to the debate, I could certainly understand his dismissal of him not being solely based on Stevie’s lack of educational background.

I've watched about 3 hours or so of the debate without much context between Tiny and Finkelstein prior interaction, so I don't what was said, but man Finkelstein was just out of it. I get that Destiny has his way to get under people's skin, when it comes down to it, the man is a internet bloodsports shit-flinger, but in the video it does come across that Finkelstein was way, way too angry for no reason other than Destiny not "respecting" his authority in the subject.

And that is the thing, you can't yell your way to be respected, I get that debating rethoric can be frustrating with all sort of ways people can undermine or mischaracterize what you are saying, but to simple act "I know more than you, shut up" doesn't endear people to your side either.

The only way to deal with guys like Destiny is by either not engaging, or if you do, be completely emotionally divorced from the conversation, say your piece, make your arguments and agree to disagree. Destiny operates under the old rule "U mad bro", he wants you to be upset. If you don't give that to him, then you get a talk like he did with Ben Shapiro, where each just said their piece and that was it.

Always keep in mind that this is nothing but "content" to Destiny, it is how he gets his bread, there is no point in getting upset with him.
 
He's been seething about the rabbani for a while on xitter
Destiny cracks me up, he keeps wanting to set himself apart from Hasan and Vaush but he's just like either of them.Not an expert on anything, not a scholar, just an undisciplined midwit who couldn't handle having his lack of knowledge being put on display despite his enormous ego so he's been seething about it ever since.
"he is a youtube streamer" good, then it should be easy to dismantle his arguments
The problem is every single one of his arguments is speculative in nature, which by design can't be refuted. All of his arguments were "you're saying the IDF up to the command level are approving strikes on innocent civilians" or "those kids who were blown up on the beach were seen coming out of a Hamas compound" or "wouldn't targeting civilians delegitimize Israel among its western allies", questions which you can only definitively if you're a mind reader or a clairvoyant or something, but that you can at least give a likely explanation for by observing a pattern of behavior (it would be a display of enormous incompetence on Israel's part if they just kept vaporizing civilians on accident) So whenever context is offered for his questions or claims he disregards it because it's not a definitive yes or no.

Morris, Finkelstein and Rabbani all carefully made their points in the realm of names, dates, quotes, and events, which is what you're supposed to do in an academic debate. If you don't it just descends into exactly what Destiny turned it into, wildly speculating and spewing unfalsifiable claims without progressing the argument in either direction.

Always keep in mind that this is nothing but "content" to Destiny, it is how he gets his bread, there is no point in getting upset with him.
That's exactly why Finkelstein refused to debate Destiny for months before this, despite Destiny's continued insistence. Finkelstein accepted a debate with Morris because Morris is one of the world's preeminent scholars of Israeli history, Finkelstein has written about Morris, and Morris isn't just using the subject for clout. It was ridiculous for Fridman to put Destiny next to him, it was so out of place and as you point out Destiny is just farming the situation for content, he doesn't have a stake in the conflict like the other three guests and won't give a shit once it stops making him money.
 
All of his arguments were "you're saying the IDF up to the command level are approving strikes on innocent civilians" or "those kids who were blown up on the beach were seen coming out of a Hamas compound"
I think those arguments are good arguments. You can determine if the kids are coming out of a Hamas compound, IDF command have logs of the order, record communications, all this can be proved by intel and journalist. And from what I saw (watch only about 30 min) the numbers and quotes from Finkelstein are all very selected to make his point and he ignores everything else.
 
Why is he so hard on for Israel?
Is it just being a contrarian to spite the vaush/hassan camp which is pro-palestine or is he the terminal neoliberal zionist with "israel is a democracy and pro gay" thing?
 
I think those arguments are good arguments. You can determine if the kids are coming out of a Hamas compound, IDF command have logs of the order, record communications, all this can be proved by intel and journalist. And from what I saw (watch only about 30 min) the numbers and quotes from Finkelstein are all very selected to make his point and he ignores everything else.
You have to be retarded to think they're just radioing pilots "yeah kill those innocent children on purpose" international law isn't written with the assumption that you have to catch people affirming genocidal intent over radio transmissions anyway. As far as the alleged Hamas compound goes, I already posted the picture in the thread, it's very clearly not a "compound" by any stretch of the imagination, there was no military equipment in it and the kids were nowhere near it anyway when they were killed. Then again you admit you haven't watched the debate and are just making things up off the top of your head so this is all pointless.
 
The problem is every single one of his arguments is speculative in nature, which by design can't be refuted.
Just wanted to comment saying this is an excellent framing of how he engages with a lot of ideas. I don't know if he has done it yet, but the Axhole guy (who Destiny seems to think is the best pro-palestine person he's spoke to) mentioned he wants to talk to Destiny about the beach incident. It doesn't really matter, because Destiny's unwavering, cum guzzling support of institutions also applies to the IDF. The specific incident is irrelevant though, because he will always revert back to "heh, the IDF have procedures in place and investigated themselves (using lawyers) to determine they didn't do anything wrong". The other dialogue tree option is "heh, sometimes people die in a war. This is all Hamas' fault, the 4 year old "child" (probably a combatant) that got blown up shouldn't have voted for hamas 17 years ago".

The reason one of my previous posts highlighted him saying it's okay for the IDF to shoot children throwing rocks at them is because something similar happened 4 months ago in the West Bank. A UK camera crew just happened to be filming in the area and they managed to catch the immediate aftermath of the IDF shooting a disabled man who was attempting (and failing, because he's disabled) to throw stones at them. The IDF also shot at the film crew:


To be clear, Destiny has already said this is justified.

Also destiny mentioned his thread from here tonight. Dude is def keeping tabs on us.
He used to admit to reading the thread a lot more, and even mentioned that some people in the thread are really good at figuring stuff out that even he hadn't realised (probably @Blav tbf since he was apparently DMing him). It's also obvious that orbiters and members of DGG read this thread, and he will often to respond to questions in chat that originate from here. If you pay attention it becomes obvious when this thread is dictating the discourse on his stream.

Why is he so hard on for Israel?
Because it's a huge ego boost for him to be "right" and being able to "prove" so many established figures and global organisations wrong. He has actually started playing the antisemitism card now because he's gone so far off the deep end.
 
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