Inactive Byuu / byuu_nyan / setsunakun0 / Near / David Ginder - "Non-binary" furry programmer who wrote a Super Nintendo emulator, tried to blackmail Null into removing his thread, and is probably actually dead lol

[Gog & Magog]

RIP @byuu. I miss that little nigga.

 

[ForTheHoard]

We only went to that overseas deaths list site because nobody in the know could or wanted to provide concrete proof that couldn't be easily faked. A Google doc with brief Telegram logs could be easily faked. A cookie jar with his name on it could be easily faked.

You know what couldn't be easily faked? A death certificate, which as it turns out was finalised in August of the same year. Yet Hector Martin was unwilling to provide such a thing and said "that's not how it works" with no substantiation. He also sent some emails to the police on the night of the death and wasn't willing to post the correspondence to prove that he actually talked to the police. Other people were involved in the correspondence and not a single one of them has ever stepped forward to claim involvement or provide proof. Hell, even Derrick Sobodash provided a lot of details but not much evidence beyond his own words.

Forgive us for being skeptical and wanting something concrete before declaring him dead.

Didn't Hector claim to have pictures of Byuu's dead body, or was that his boss? He kept saying he had something that was a smoking gun before the death certificate had been penned but never released it.

 

[Pargon]

What does he have to say? He was right kiwis were wrong. You are the ones who need to say something to him, namely we need you all to apologized for spreading lies and misinformation.

Nigga who is this “we”? Byuu tried to bribe and then blackmail Josh into deleting his minuscule thread and when he wouldn’t bend the knee he did/did not do a flip. The best possible outcome is that he topped himself and some homeless cats and dogs fed like kings on his worthless corpse.

 

[Markass the Worst]

Didn't Hector claim to have pictures of Byuu's dead body, or was that his boss? He kept saying he had something that was a smoking gun before the death certificate had been penned but never released it.

That was @Wayne Beckett.

I have a photo of his corpse, but to be honest I don't think that would be kind to his loved ones. No doubt you would say it is photoshopped

I don't give a shit if you don't believe me, I absolutely refuse to post a photo of David's dead body so you guys can jerk off to it!

 

[AssignedEva]

You know what couldn't be easily faked? A death certificate, which as it turns out was finalised in August of the same year. Yet Hector Martin was unwilling to provide such a thing and said "that's not how it works" with no substantiation. He also sent some emails to the police on the night of the death and wasn't willing to post the correspondence to prove that he actually talked to the police.

I think the most likely explanation for this and his complete silence is that there's a case of stolen valour going on. From the sounds of it Sobodash had a low opinion of Byuu's twitter friends (blaming them for his spiral), and the husband was liasing directly with his workplace and doesn't seem to have made contact with Hector.

I have been in contact with a close friend of David's online and that he and I had met before back here in Ohio. He has a little more insight into David's online life/community than I did, as I was relatively out of the loop social media wise. He states that there was someone on the phone on or around the time David took his life and that he apparently had taken a lethal dose of codeine, possibly another drug, and lots of alcohol before hanging himself.

Acknowledgement of Hector's claim - but second hand.
The "local contact" appears to have been a colleague of Byuu's called Hiromi Imai (there's a Hiromi Imai who works at Cyber Gadget Corporation - also they got sloppy with censoring that document). Then -

[BLANK] reported that he has been in touch with [BLANK] and was asked to scatter the cremated ashes at the ocean where Mr. Ginder liked. However, said that Mr. Ginder never traveled and stayed at home so there no place where he liked. He may ship the cremated remains to Patrick as he mentioned that he may come to Japan in the future and scatter the ashes

- so it does sound like the local contact reached out to Wayne Beckett and gave him the ashes to scatter, which is why Wayne had the urn in the first place.
With that all in mind, I don't think Hector would have actually have been that involved in any of this. He's seemingly not involved as a local contact at all and none of these people seem to have had much reason to contact him, and I don't know how he would have had any way of finding out who was involved.
So despite being the person to break the news to the internet, he would never have gotten his hands on the death certificate or had any knowledge or involvement in what was happening with Byuu's affairs (or even that he was going to be scattered). Hector's only approach would have been to contact Sobodash, but I imagine Sobodash would have been hostile towards him. Especially if he only wanted the death certificate to cement his status as the True and Honest Byuu authority (something that was gaining him a lot of positive attention and helped him launch his cringe vtuber career). Sobodash already was happy enough to come onto KiwiFarms and post evidence when he felt it was necessary, and I think maybe just wanted to give David's husband some privacy.

What does he have to say? He was right kiwis were wrong. You are the ones who need to say something to him, namely we need you all to apologized for spreading lies and misinformation.

You've got your collective pronouns mixed up. When referring to Hector and his associates, you need to use the word "they". When referring to Kiwifarmers, you need to use "we", as you are also an active participant on this site.

 

[Markass the Worst]

So despite being the person to break the news to the internet, he would never have gotten his hands on the death certificate or had any knowledge or involvement in what was happening with Byuu's affairs (or even that he was going to be scattered). Hector's only approach would have been to contact Sobodash, but I imagine Sobodash would have been hostile towards him.

Sounds plausible. Still Hector could have posted the emails he sent and received with the police.

 

[AnimuGinger]

So Near was just hanging around this entire time?

 

[Polentic]

Rest my sweet prince. Killed over a minecraft mod.

 

[Travoltron]

I used a lot of Byuu's emulators and tools. I never knew the guy, but I'm saddened that there will be no updates or future cool projects.
I didn't even know he had a thread here. I don't think most people did. By the time I heard there was drama here, he'd already offed himself. I was hoping that it wasn't true.

 

[thegunbuilderguy]

"Fun detail, the Japanese doctor wrote かいぼう (autopsy) at "Cause of Death:". I assume it's a mistake.
Since the US govt didn't censor it this time, who is this コン様 (Kon) who was given his effects?"

Those notes seem to have been made by one of the embassy staff since they refer to "Doctor Yamaguchi" and the doctor's handwriting on the death certificate (page 97) is pretty different.

"cause of death: autopsy"
TFW he somehow managed to play dead and the jap checks are so sloppy they didn't bother checking for a pulse or anything, chalking up seeing no discoloration at just being what a normal western cadaver looks like
So autopsist jackie chan just gets a scalpel and does the unit 731 funny and just stabs him in the heart with it, byu freaks out, sprays blood everywhere, gets up and immediately slips on his own blood and cleanly snaps his head off on the hard autopsy floor

 

[Misericordia]

I always thought pushing the "he's not really dead" angle was a bad move, because it seems to imply that if he were dead, it would somehow matter. It's pretty firmly understood by most reasonable, honest, mature people that you don't just get to kill yourself and cast the blame on somebody and have it stick.

Not that it really matters at this point, because the enemies of this website have long since stopped pretending to care about bsnesnigger.

 

[cia-log]

I don't have any concrete answers and if he's dead we'll never know for sure, but this wasn't a new vendetta. Back in 2020 he got @CIA Nigger to delete the thread by threatening him with a ban from a Discord server, but then Null noticed and restored it. He asked Null more politely to delete it but Null declined, citing the earlier manipulation of CIA Nigger. And then finally he threatened Null into deleting the thread or killing himself, and when Null said he had to check with a lawyer, he cited some unspecified time limit and had already neckroped before Null could respond.

My theory is that he basically never had a life outside the Internet so he was exceptionally hypersensitive to criticism. You can see this when he complains about "harassment" from RetroArch (which was really just TwinAphex shit talking him in IRC logs that got published by someone else).

It seems like if he hadn't killed himself when he posted the tweets blaming Josh he would've done it at some point in the future anyway. He was basically just deteriorating in slow motion over the past several years of his life, shedding bits of his social life and support structure here and there, getting into drama and using that to validate this belief that he was unfairly being abused by the world, which fed back into his habit of isolating himself.

In his email exchange with Null he claims that therapy and medication don't work, and then immediately after he promises Null if he takes the deal he'll go back to therapy. From the things he's said in the past it seems like he intentionally picked ways to better himself that he knew beforehand were doomed to fail so he could say "see I try but nothing works", while not addressing the actual behavior that isolated him from his husband, his friends, possibly family etc. by the end he had even renounced his affiliation with Bsnes. He had a history of saying things like

In isolation, it was hard for me to see the extent of this. But this was all really brought to the forefront for me in 2018, when pretty much every mistake I've ever made in life was chronicled into the mother of all callout posts about me. I don't harbor any ill will about it: I brought it on myself. Rather, it was a real wake-up call that I needed to change. And so rather than argue back and defend myself as I would have in the past, I set about improving myself instead.

This is what brought about the desire to revive the bsnes project. It's also what led me to take down my older opinion-piece articles, clean up my social media usage, make amends with many of my past most ardent detractors, and focus more on listening to the needs of others. I do sincerely hope folks have noticed the change these past two years: I'm not who I used to be anymore.

and then not following up, maintaining his resentments, casting blame and so on. Given all that, it was inevitable he'd end up in the gutter, and it's pretty obvious he wasn't built to handle that.

 

[Slav Power]

Posts like these might have more punch if half the thread wasn't doing the "We just love too much, our hearts are too big, we're the only ones who cared about byuu, uWu" shtick.

It's already clear you have an autistic vendetta against the site, you fail to make a compelling argument, use typical troon tactics and are most likely a troon, but I'll chip into the shitfest.

Since you're already doing the petty "look into user's profiles to find ammo against them" bullshit, here's a pro tip:

You can find all posts from a specific user with this one simple trick. Click the "Search" button on top, choose "This thread", and only look up the username in the "By:" field. I did so for all the screencaps you've shown there, and as it turns out, one of those users seems to be banned, one responded at this revelation without saying anything about Byuu, and the others didn't post anything here since 2023.

Look, personally I hate hypocrisy of people who shit on someone, then suddenly turn into bleeding hearts when the heat is too much, it's gay and cowardly and it deserves to be pointed out. However not a single example you've shown there proves that. If anything, your autistic vendetta mentality made you assume that the entire site is a singular hivemind, even though it isn't, nor is any other online community.

And most users uphold the same sentiment they had when Byuu offed himself, that he's a piece of shit that wanted to extort Null and killed himself to get attention and attack the site. So if you want to make a compelling argument, use the search tools at your disposal and point out singular users that had a sudden change of heart, if you'll find any. But most likely you'll just look through my profile to find ammo against me, because you're emotionally unstable.

I'm saddened that there will be no updates or future cool projects.

Everything that's open source will keep getting maintained. bsnes has multiple active forks, and his projects will live on without him. He retired from developing them years before the suicide anyway.

I always thought pushing the "he's not really dead" angle was a bad move, because it seems to imply that if he were dead, it would somehow matter. It's pretty firmly understood by most reasonable, honest, mature people that you don't just get to kill yourself and cast the blame on somebody and have it stick.

Not that it really matters at this point, because the enemies of this website have long since stopped pretending to care about bsnesnigger.

To be fair, that happened at around the peak of #DropKiwifarms, so emotions were high, and with how little was known about what happened, how Hector kept making less sense, and how the forum users were in full autistic defense mode, the faked suicide narrative became the main counterweapon if you could call it. Turns out both sides were autistic, and if it wasn't for bureaucratic bullshit, the autistic slapfight between KF users and troons using Byuu's corpse wouldn't have happened.

And yeah, not it doesn't matter, because #DropKiwifarms is dead, Keffals is being picked apart by commentary channels, Hector is becoming more and more irrelevant, the site is still up and well reinforced against further deplatforming by Liz Fong-Jones, and Byuu is in fact dead, and no one cares about his memory, not even his "husband", and he still tried to extort and blackmail Null with his suicide, so he'd have a legacy of a piece of shit anyway.

Completely meaningless at this point, it's just a closure to the shitfest that was the truth behind his suicide. And if anyone in this thread starts making up schizo theories about how he is actually still alive, just laugh at them like you would at Hector's spergings. Seriously, he's 100% dead at this point, don't make Hector look good by comparison, leave it be, it don't matter. None of this matters.

 

[thegunbuilderguy]

I feel terrible doing this but i would've felt worse not making it and missing the opportunity to

 

[Odd Opossum]

It's already clear you have an autistic vendetta against the site, you fail to make a compelling argument, use typical troon tactics and are most likely a troon

Uh-huh.

because you're emotionally unstable.

Yeah, I'm the emotionally unstable one. Not you, the guy saying that I'm a transsexual with a grudge against the forum.

 

[Prokhor Zakharov]

In before there's a bunch of posts moved to Mass Debates

I would argue it should be renamed "Mass Retardation" or "Mass Autism"

 

[Markass the Worst]

I would argue it should be renamed "Mass Retardation" or "Mass Autism"

It's a reference to Chris Chan's euphemism for masturbating.

 

[Slav Power]

Uh-huh.

Yeah, I'm the emotionally unstable one. Not you, the guy saying that I'm a transsexual with a grudge against the forum.

Yes good, you've noticed the two ad hominems, now read the rest of my post, that's a bit more constructive, assuming you have the open mind required to do so.

 

[Sicko Hunter]

I'm a transsexual with a grudge against the forum.

We know.

 

[beefis]

I always thought pushing the "he's not really dead" angle was a bad move, because it seems to imply that if he were dead, it would somehow matter. It's pretty firmly understood by most reasonable, honest, mature people that you don't just get to kill yourself and cast the blame on somebody and have it stick.

No I'm reasonably certain as an adult who has been alive and conscious for a few decades that if you express things in text like "kill yourself" or "you are a pedophile" to someone when there's no evidence of it and they kill themselves then you are not only held accountable on a basic social level by most sane people, you are sometimes arrested and face criminal charges by our institutions. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Conrad_Roy.