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This thread is for the discussion of a phenomenon (or a collection of closely related, intertwined phenomena) that has become a recurrent topic of discussion within many different threads relevant to the online fringes of Generation Z. This OP will not be comprehensive by any stretch - this is just to provide a dedicated spot to discuss this specific problem. If you don't like reading about zoosadism, child exploitation, or other types of depraved shit in that vein, I'd recommend skipping this one.
In short, there is a serious problem around online edgy zoomer communities of some (not all) members of these spaces increasingly engaging in (what they call) the """ironic""" spreading of degeneracy, animal abuse, and CSAM. This behavior, which is almost always perpetuated by small groups of users that organize on Discord, Telegram, and/or Matrix, is very often comorbid with sadistic / exploitative tendencies, with group members often also being involved in the commission and trading of self-harm content (such as "cutsigns", when a person cuts someone else's username into themselves), and/or the direct grooming, exploitation, and humiliation of the mentally ill (oftentimes even extending this to children).
While this type of behavior is certainly not exclusive to groups that orbit edgy zoomer communities, it is these edgy zoomer-centric groups that have brought this distinct, repeating pattern of behavior into the limelight, due in large part to the sheer quantity of these types of groups orbiting and targeting Soyjak.Party (arguably the most influential community on the fringes of online zoomer culture). Additionally, groups like the Foodists and the UTubeTrollPolice (both of which have fucked with the sharty in the past and also both engage in the open distribution of animal snuff and CSAM) have gotten attention from popular zoomer YouTubers such as DJ Cook and Parlo, with the latter highlighting the UTTP's connections to the very-much non-ironic pedophile ring "764".
If you haven't heard of 764 by now, I envy you. I'll just let the FBI PSA about them speak for itself:
(https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2023/PSA230912)
(Our thread on 764 and associated communities)
It isn't uncommon for there to be crossover between these types of groups, or at the very least deliberate copycatting, especially when it comes to "irony" groups copycatting 764 or its equally unironically pedophilic offshoot groups. Case in point: Alan Filion, the person behind Torswats, was a Foodist, but also claimed to have connections to 764, stating in leaked chatlogs that he was extorting people "764 style". When I was originally digging into Alan and his group of friends (who were also involved in """ironic""" pedophilia and zoosadism), I set aside a section of the OP to outline this phenomenon of degeneracy, sadism, and Evil being shielded under the auspices of "irony" (including examples outside of zoomer spheres), and highlighted how they all seemed to eerily mirror each other in tactics and proclivities, even when there was no discernible reason for this to be the case:
The above list is far from comprehensive, but it's enough to illustrate the following points:
While this last bit is more so about a broader problem that encompasses way more horrid shit than just the phenomenon described above, I would be remiss not to mention it, as it's another significant problem that's heavily affected Generation Z and is currently affecting Generation Alpha, and many believe it to be one of the largest causes of the behavior described above.
The influx of children onto the Internet (following neglectful parents giving their infants iPads to placate them) has been met by an equally proportioned mobilization of pedophiles seeking to exploit and abuse them. Like manypeople dumbfucks in the thread have stated in an attempt to handwave away this thread's concerns, this behavior isn't new or novel. However, what they (seemingly deliberately) fail to realize is that the scale of this problem is completely incomparable to the early Internet, and that the amount of time it's been allowed to operate at this scale is in and of itself a problem worth addressing, with many believing that this is what's causing the increasingly noticeable scourge of "ironic" degeneracy and sadism among zoomers.
To rule out some aspect(s) of western culture or century-long glowie conspiracies as primary causes of the phenomenon, look no further than the Chinese cat torturers: Chinese Telegram groups consisting predominantly of children and people in their early 20's recording and distributing videos of themselves torturing and killing stray cats, even targeting specific cats that had become popular on Chinanet in order to "troll" fans of the cat. Seems to share many similarities to the groups we have in America, yet formed in a completely different culture, largely disconnected from the level of influence that the intel agencies have here. Per Occam's Razor, it's vastly more likely that the common denominator here (that being the Internet connecting children directly to pedophiles that want to exploit them) is ultimately to blame.
With all of that being said, here's a short list of the threads we have covering this greater issue of pedophiles purposefully exposing children to their depravity:
In short, there is a serious problem around online edgy zoomer communities of some (not all) members of these spaces increasingly engaging in (what they call) the """ironic""" spreading of degeneracy, animal abuse, and CSAM. This behavior, which is almost always perpetuated by small groups of users that organize on Discord, Telegram, and/or Matrix, is very often comorbid with sadistic / exploitative tendencies, with group members often also being involved in the commission and trading of self-harm content (such as "cutsigns", when a person cuts someone else's username into themselves), and/or the direct grooming, exploitation, and humiliation of the mentally ill (oftentimes even extending this to children).
While this type of behavior is certainly not exclusive to groups that orbit edgy zoomer communities, it is these edgy zoomer-centric groups that have brought this distinct, repeating pattern of behavior into the limelight, due in large part to the sheer quantity of these types of groups orbiting and targeting Soyjak.Party (arguably the most influential community on the fringes of online zoomer culture). Additionally, groups like the Foodists and the UTubeTrollPolice (both of which have fucked with the sharty in the past and also both engage in the open distribution of animal snuff and CSAM) have gotten attention from popular zoomer YouTubers such as DJ Cook and Parlo, with the latter highlighting the UTTP's connections to the very-much non-ironic pedophile ring "764".
If you haven't heard of 764 by now, I envy you. I'll just let the FBI PSA about them speak for itself:
(https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2023/PSA230912)
(Our thread on 764 and associated communities)
It isn't uncommon for there to be crossover between these types of groups, or at the very least deliberate copycatting, especially when it comes to "irony" groups copycatting 764 or its equally unironically pedophilic offshoot groups. Case in point: Alan Filion, the person behind Torswats, was a Foodist, but also claimed to have connections to 764, stating in leaked chatlogs that he was extorting people "764 style". When I was originally digging into Alan and his group of friends (who were also involved in """ironic""" pedophilia and zoosadism), I set aside a section of the OP to outline this phenomenon of degeneracy, sadism, and Evil being shielded under the auspices of "irony" (including examples outside of zoomer spheres), and highlighted how they all seemed to eerily mirror each other in tactics and proclivities, even when there was no discernible reason for this to be the case:
... and other noteworthy examples include:The Cancer That Is Killing The Internet
Discord: Not Even Once
This style of "trolling" is far from unique to [Torswats' group], and I'd go so far as to say that it isn't just coincidence that so many groups, completely independent of each other, all arrived at the same trolling method, or that the overwhelming majority of them also share a disturbing """""ironic""""" affinity for varying fetishes and paraphilias.
Again, it isn't coincidence. It's pathology. See if you can spot any patterns between the following examples:
- The Idea Guys, the trolling group that extorted Chris Chan into sending them money using a video confession of Chris admitting to pedophilia (which was also the result of extortion), additionally compelled Chris into watching "rather grotesque pornography" for two hours.
- Isabella Loretta Janke, the person who encouraged Chris Chan to continue raping his mother, was an animal abusing, cat-shit huffing, loli-porn & animal gore posting, child porn link collecting degenerate who was planning on blackmailing Chris into fucking killing himself.
- MaximilianMus, a Fortnite troll who got big on YouTube, convinced the lolcow JMAA to eat his own shit on camera. However, he also lured underaged YouTubers into a Discord call so that a pedophile named Bollabong could sodomize himself on camera with pencils and pieces of paper (which he would put in his mouth afterwards), and also allowed for the "IRONIC" posting of "IRONIC" child porn links in his Discord server, because he was an "IRONIC" pedophile himself. "IRONICALLY".
- The aforementioned Council of Evil, the owner of which was allegedly involved in encouraging Alandrian to eat his own shit and not take his meds following a hospital visit, was also allegedly grooming Lumi, a minor, into transitioning. He also spoke at length with the pedophile Pamperchu about eating diapers, drugging and raping children, and selling child porn. "IRONICALLY", of course.
- The also-aforementioned Elaine Miller troll(s), who after successfully tricking Elaine into believing she was talking to Null on Discord, used this fact to convince her to carve Josh's name into her legs on camera.
- Meowbah, a troll PNGTuber who got big off of making zoomer ragebait TikToks / YouTube Shorts, gave minors who joined her Discord server perks for carving her username into themselves, and also allegedly defended a minor who was selling their nudes to people in Discord DMs.
- Spaikouz, a barely-functional degenerate retard, was groomed by a group of trolls on Matrix into cutting his fucking dick off as part of some depraved femboy roleplay. The group's justification for doing this was that Spaikouz was a pedophile, but by the time the thread was locked, some were questioning whether or not that was even true, and if the proof of Spaikouz's pedophilia could have been the result of manipulation and/or extortion on the part of the trolls.
- The Foodists, a trolling collective mostly focused on creating low-effort ragebait videos mocking high-profile deaths, additionally have a history of luring their targets into Discord servers, spamming them with gore (including animal gore), convincing some targets to carve various symbols, slogans, and usernames into themselves (including other people's usernames, so as to frame these people as pedophiles), soliciting nudes from a minor while falsely smearing them as a pedophile (and subsequently using this false accusation as justification for swatting them), and privately engaging in unironic femboy diaperfur roleplay.
- KaliAcc, the aforementioned Discord-based "esoteric right-wing" pro-anorexia grooming/cutting cult that victimized and blackmailed several underaged girls, with their only justification after the fact being that it was all "ironic", "performance art", "trolling", etc.
(even more in Soph's video)
- MORTiS / Rachel Santos, an "animation meme" YouTuber, zoophile, and all-around depraved lunatic who organized a Discord "cult" of people (mostly assumedly children) who murdered their pets in her name,
- America First, a meta-ironic (read, unironic) pedophile ring of lolicons, CSAM distributors, child molesters, and anti-age-of-consent advocates disguised as a pro-White political movement targeted towards zoomers,
- Bubblebowl Technologies, a Discord-based VRChat trolling group that convinces and/or extorts children and the mentally ill into hurting themselves (either through cutting or burning), destroying their belongings / household, and getting them to eat and smear shit on themselves while on camera,
- Pranknet / Prank University, a degenerate late-2000's prank-calling group that tricked unsuspecting service workers into drinking other people's urine and harbored convicted child molesters in their group, and
- Skibidi Farms / NoLimitsPedia, a Discord-centered group of spurned-soyteen failtrolls dedicated to making their own Kiwi Farms and Encyclopedia Dramatica but with child sexual abuse material.
The above list is far from comprehensive, but it's enough to illustrate the following points:
- this shit is a serious problem,
- it's a problem happening simultaneously in many different places entirely independent from each other,
- it for whatever reason seems to be having an especial impact on Gen Z, and
- Discord is a tool of the antichrist.
While this last bit is more so about a broader problem that encompasses way more horrid shit than just the phenomenon described above, I would be remiss not to mention it, as it's another significant problem that's heavily affected Generation Z and is currently affecting Generation Alpha, and many believe it to be one of the largest causes of the behavior described above.
The influx of children onto the Internet (following neglectful parents giving their infants iPads to placate them) has been met by an equally proportioned mobilization of pedophiles seeking to exploit and abuse them. Like many
To rule out some aspect(s) of western culture or century-long glowie conspiracies as primary causes of the phenomenon, look no further than the Chinese cat torturers: Chinese Telegram groups consisting predominantly of children and people in their early 20's recording and distributing videos of themselves torturing and killing stray cats, even targeting specific cats that had become popular on Chinanet in order to "troll" fans of the cat. Seems to share many similarities to the groups we have in America, yet formed in a completely different culture, largely disconnected from the level of influence that the intel agencies have here. Per Occam's Razor, it's vastly more likely that the common denominator here (that being the Internet connecting children directly to pedophiles that want to exploit them) is ultimately to blame.
With all of that being said, here's a short list of the threads we have covering this greater issue of pedophiles purposefully exposing children to their depravity:
- Roblox - pedophiles flood one of the most popular children's games with NSFW content in hopes children see it and become "corrupted"; Roblox responds by suing people reporting on it.
- VRChat - a very similar situation to Roblox, but on a 13+ game that's even more NSFW; similarly involves a moderation team that seems to be in favor of children being exposed to porn, allegedly.
- Boykisser - pedophiles co-opt a faggot meme and use it to prey on children on Reddit and Discord; Joseph Cox of 404 Media doesn't like that we've exposed this.
- GigglyGoonclown - prolific porn-addicted tranny pedophile whose full Discord DM history got leaked; made well-known the depraved fetish of EPI, or "early porn introduction": exposing children to porn.
- F1NN5TER - former children's Minecraft streamer turned forced-feminization fetish streamer; is friends with Jean "Sodacat" Hollywood, an EPI pedophile outed in the GigglyGoonclown leaks.
- Chris Tyson - tranny former sidekick of MrBeast (the biggest YouTuber in the world who is very popular with young children) that was outed for exposing his child fans to porn in his Discord.
- 2chen / Sturdychan / 4/trash/ - a pedophile-friendly imageboard (and the closest thing they have to their own outpost on 4chan itself) that openly encourages and glorifies early porn introduction.
- Operation Red Balloon / Modern Elsagate - EPI pedophiles on YouTube mass-uploading NSFW videos with children's tags.
- And of course, trannies and furries at large.
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