Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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The success rate is zero.

Oh trust me, I know. I was saying what @Peaches Demure said because that's the figure the slightly less misinformed/delusional pooners go with. A 50% success rate for an elective surgery is alarming. Especially since so many continue flaying their bodies after attempt #1 fails.

Dick fingers are just as "valid" as Rotdogs, and far safer. Its just bigotry for Pooners to reject them without considering the benefits first.

Now thinking of that alternate world in Everything, Everywhere, All at Once where everyone has hot dog fingers, only it's like Edward Penishands. Thanks, I hate it.
 
u/t_briggs24 has decided to have sex for the first time with her phallus with what appears to be a random Tinder hookup.
Here's her phallus for reference. She recently had the erectile device put in.
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The whole experience with the poor girl went really bad and she's very disappointed.
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Sex post ED

Had PIV sex for the first time post ED yesterday and it was…complicated. I had abdo phallo so my sensation is much less than RFF or ALT as I understand it, and most of the sensation I do have is closer to the base with barely any towards the tip. Also my dick is on the girthier side which I love. And when I’m fully pumped up just on my own it feels pretty firm, but when I tried to penetrate my partner I found that the tip wasn’t as firm as I would have liked it to be and getting it in was difficult.

Also just trying to figure out angles and positions that worked was hard. While really connecting in a lot of ways (it was my first time sleeping with this person), it also felt frustrating that my body wasn’t operating in the way I had always hoped/imagined post all of my surgeries. I know movie and TV sex is wildly unrealistic, but I was wanting just a hot straight forward PIV fuck where I could be kinda rough and fully confident and it just wasn’t that. There was a lot of pausing and readjusting. And I’m really grateful for her being so kind and patient and open to trying new things, but at the same time I feel like she didn’t fully get it when I was trying to explain some of my frustration at the limitations of my own body.

Anyway, this is mostly just a vent, but if any post op people have suggestions of positions that have worked well for them or just other ways of reframing how they think about sex, I’d be open to hearing that. Not super open to pre-op questions at this time.
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my body wasn’t operating in the way I had always hoped/imagined post all of my surgeries. I know movie and TV sex is wildly unrealistic
I was wanting just a hot straight forward PIV fuck where I could be kinda rough and fully confident and it just wasn’t that.
I feel like she didn’t fully get it when I was trying to explain some of my frustration at the limitations of my own body.
She and the other TiFs seem to like the idea of 'reframing sex' as some kind of cope for this.

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It's the same thing as the jeans sold with holes in them. The origin of that trend was to imitate the look of jeans that had seen a lot of wear from travel or use.
I've never ever had jeans tear anywhere but the crotch. I had jacket sleeves catch on shit, I had shirt elbows tear from wear, I fell from a bike and slid five meters and tore my cycling pants and thermal pants and knee, I had sparks from a fire melt holes in my expensive synthetic trekking pants, but jeans only ever tear at the crotch.

So when I see someone in ripped jeans, I assume there's a hole in the crotch, too. (I do not look to confirm.)

This freaks me out because it’s literally the type of “demoralization” that the KGB understood and implemented. Demoralization happens when you e indoctrinated someone so well they can be supplied with the self evident truth and will deny it, ie thinking that discouraging people from converting their bodies to a crude impression of the other gender is conversion therapy.
Are you a tranny? Do you think men can be women? God fucking damn it, I read this thread to be united with citizens of enemy countries in hating pedos, because it gives me hope for humanity to know we can agree on something, no matter our political disagreements, and see this coprophiliac fandom instead.
 
Honestly, if my dick fell off I would not let anyone talk me into a phalloplasty, not from the horror I've seen in this thread.

Yeah same.

But what if they didn’t fall off but were damaged?

Phalloplasties were originally devised to reconstruct damaged penises, so basically to build on what’s already there. This would have several advantages over pooners. You wouldn’t have to use as much flesh, because you aren’t starting from zero. You would have a lengthier urethra and the bladder strength to pee hard, so your risk of strictures or UTIs wouldn’t be as high. You would have the internal structures still partially there for erections. Success rates are probably skewed by conflating new builds with extensions, with the latter historically more common and more likely to work.

All’s I’m saying is don’t conflate the two types of patients because they’re starting from two very different places. Also I hope your dicks don’t fall off.
 
She and the other TiFs seem to like the idea of 'reframing sex' as some kind of cope for this.
Of course they do. Because every reality, every belief, or need only matters if it’s a troon. Never mind that this girl was either an idiot for playing along or too naive to realize her hookup was a desperate pooner until the it was too late.

“Reframing sex” to mean awkward whining and failed thrusting without even a hint of pleasure but plenty of pity. I’m sure that will bring all the hot straight women to this pooners door.
 
u/t_briggs24 has decided to have sex for the first time with her phallus with what appears to be a random Tinder hookup.
Here's her phallus for reference. She recently had the erectile device put in.
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Fellas don't you hate it when there's an entire city block between your stomach donger and your labia balls? Amirite
 
There must be a correlation between neovagina’s and sepsis. An actual vagina is a self-cleaning orifice that will release discharge if there is an infection, and even then women will usually have to take antibiotics because it can’t always flush out all the bacteria. Since a neovagina is basically a pocket that isn’t a proper orifice, the amount of bacteria that festers in there must be incredibly high, not to imagine the necrosis that starts to set in from it being forced open all the time and never allowed to heal. It doesn’t really matter in the end of the owner of said neovagina is douching and dilating. The body is going to still do anything it can to close it up, including the discharging of pus, which is laden with bacteria.

So basically, lack of daily hygiene of the area can be dangerous because of bacterial accumulation, yet keeping the neovagina open only increases its chance of becoming infected (because it’s essentially an open wound). There’s not really a winning scenario with bottom surgery for trans women. There will eventually be complications. I feel since these surgeries are still pretty new we won’t be seeing studies about the severe negative effects of neovagina construction for a while, but I guarantee they’re gonna come. Soon.
 
I feel since these surgeries are still pretty new we won’t be seeing studies about the severe negative effects of neovagina construction for a while, but I guarantee they’re gonna come.
They’re hardly new. They’ve been making neovaginas for hundreds of years…not kidding! Sure, they are far more common now than they would have been back then, but even so they’ve been pretty common for over 40 years now.

Gender-affirming surgeries for transgender women have taken place since the 16th century, though they became more notable in the 20th century.
 
Since a neovagina is basically a pocket that isn’t a proper orifice, the amount of bacteria that festers in there must be incredibly high, not to imagine the necrosis that starts to set in from it being forced open all the time and never allowed to heal.
Yeah there are numerous journal articles floating around to this effect.

Rot pockets also often contain hair which can become ingrown and create cysts/abscesses/sinus tracts/fistulas and these cavities don't self clean so there is a build up of cell debris leading to bacterial infections which can cause necrosis.
I swear I read something about the massive complications caused by the urethral shortening as well 🤔

There have been a few studies that compared the flora of a vagina to a rotpocket and it showed that, while vaginas had primarily lactobacillus strains ("good bacteria"), the stink ditches had E.Coli in high concentrations as well as various types of skin bacteria.

Basically, we already know that creating these artificial cavities is very bad but we haven't reached the tipping point yet where they've been outright banned as barbaric
 
They’re hardly new. They’ve been making neovaginas for hundreds of years…not kidding! Sure, they are far more common now than they would have been back then, but even so they’ve been pretty common for over 40 years now.


You’re right…I should have instead said they’re becoming more common these past decade, with more and more people publicly talking about it rather than it being a fringe. I guarantee most people over a certain age bracket didn’t even know that such a cosmetic surgery existed.
 
You’re right…I should have instead said they’re becoming more common these past decade, with more and more people publicly talking about it rather than it being a fringe. I guarantee most people over a certain age bracket didn’t even know that such a cosmetic surgery existed.
I’m not so sure about that. Definitely FTM has exploded in popularity, but FTM has been around for decades. My BFF (until that time) had his neovagina installed back in the late 1980s. There were lots of surgeons around the world doing that surgery. There’s MANY folk who transitioned over 30 years ago. Certainly enough to have decent length followup studies. We only know about it more these days because of social media and the internet in general. Back in the 1980s and earlier, there wasn’t the internet to mainstream the information. People wanting to transition had to basically rely on trans organisations to get information and treatment. Plus there was major gate keeping regarding who could get the surgeries, no gender affirming care back then, it was an obstacle course. Those having these surgeries also weren’t out there advertising the fact to the whole world.
 
This post has to be the most horrifying thing I have seen on this website. How can these freaks sit around with rotting infected open wounds and just talk like it's business as usual. "Hey guys, my fake dick almost disemboweled me but it's alright now!". I would fucking an hero on the spot.
I looked at those pictures. To me, the freakiest thing was the person's nipple in the last frame.
 
They’re hardly new. They’ve been making neovaginas for hundreds of years…not kidding! Sure, they are far more common now than they would have been back then, but even so they’ve been pretty common for over 40 years now.


This is not the case for the newer neovagina techniques. No one has been doing things like peritoneal pullthrough or sigmoid colon vags for hundreds of years. The earliest and most common until recently transition surgeries did not try to produce "functional" organs, they were essentially cosmetic and with limited depth and usually had complications (also done more often on women who had deformities or injuries to the genitals that resulted in a desire to "recreate" what should be there. That being said, given the limited attempts to alter anatomy, and the long amount of time that this surgery has been around with the refinement of techniques, penile inversion vaginoplasties that make the canal between the anus and bladder are much safer that the fancy newer ones that promise a more "true" vagina. With those techniques it's basically the wild west right now, surgeons don't even share their techniques.

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Descriptions of surgical interventions to restore form and function for vaginal obstruction or non-functioning vagina, be it from imperforate hymen, vaginal septum, vaginal hypoplasia or vaginal agenesis, date back to Greek antiquity. Incision of the obstruction or sharp dissection for creation of a canal in the pre-aseptic era generally resulted in injury to the urethra, bladder or rectum with fistula or entry into the peritoneal cavity and death from infection. Even with improved safety in canal dissection due to increased surgical prowess and adoption of aseptic technique, simple perineal rectovesical canal dissection for creation of a neovagina proved insufficient. It was observed that without maintenance the cavity uniformly stenosed or obliterated. Therefore, indwelling neovaginal molds with progressive dilation and epithelialization over a period of months following dissection were attempted in cis-women, but these too with dissatisfying results; stenosis, incomplete epithelialization and excessive granulation tissue.

This is similar to saying that FTM surgery has been around "since the 70s", when what is being refered to there is metoidioplasty and not full phalloplasty using leg skin. These newer ones are obviously facing a lot more complications that simply cutting the clitoris up a bit. Again, part of all this that the fantasy of a "real" transition demands more and more invasive procedures because the more "tried and tested" techniques are simply not keeping up with the expectations troons are bringing to it.
 
Anyway, I found this site that explained a sigmoid-derived neovagina to me and I have to ask, would this effect their ability to shit? If the butcher's work on stitching up flesh on the outside is anything to go by, how many heckin valid transwymyn are having their colons fall apart after some time? I just don't trust them to know how to connect two pieces of flesh together.
I have a feeling that this neovagina is designed for AFAB women who have had to have their uterus AND VAGINA removed, and they want a vaginal reconstruction. There's a reference to a vaginal stump in the text and drawings.
 
They’re hardly new. They’ve been making neovaginas for hundreds of years…not kidding! Sure, they are far more common now than they would have been back then, but even so they’ve been pretty common for over 40 years now.


The evolution of transgender surgery (pdf attached)

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The source for that. And that's it. Transvesticism.

The results of a penile inversion vaginoplasty,
"Here we see a man with his dick cleanly chopped off."
Amazing page there.
 

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The source for that. And that's it. Transvesticism.


"Here we see a man with his dick cleanly chopped off."
Amazing page there.
Wikipedo is an ideologically tainted source run by fanatics.
I seriously doubt they were doing sex reasignment surgery in the 16th century without anaesthesia, blood transfusions, or antibiotics, and when the top minds in medical science were all in agreement that illness were caused by "an inbalance of the humors," they treated sicknesses by using leeches to "draw out bad blood," prayer, followed by more leeches, (and probably praying over the leeches) and their only recourse for most injuries was amputation of the limb.
If they're trying to include castration as "gender affirming surgery" well the fucking Akkadians were doing that to prisoners in the Bronze Age, cutting off someones junk isn't the same as trying to carve a Stinkditch.

If they're trying to say that "gender affirming surgery" was happening in the fucking 16th century without anaesthesia, blood transfusions, antibiotics, etc I'm gonna need to see some real sources.
The best minds in "science" at the time were people like Francis Bacon and Samuel Pepys, guys who were still trying to find the fucking Philosophers Stone to turn Lead into Gold ffs.
 
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If they're trying to say that "gender affirming surgery" was happening in the fucking 16th century without anaesthesia, blood transfusions, antibiotics, etc I'm gonna need to see some real sources.

Realistically, they're probably referring to eunuchs and slapping the modern day gender affirming label on it. This shit is insidious. I'm reading a book about the ancient world right now and it talks about the ancient Egyptian god Hapi and the author slapped a non-binary label on poor Hapi. No, this ancient Egyptian god was not something that was made up in the last decade.

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Another user who is 3 weeks post stage 2 phallo.

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Had stage 2, which consist of glandsplasty and scrotoplasy. I didn't have nor plan to have ul, burial or vnectomy. I'm feeling much better about my glans now and even though I got the clear to stop wrapping them, I'm going to continue doing so with the hope they won't flatten. Taking off the xeroform is a pain tho cause the glans are already so sensitive 😬😁
My balls have calmed down and the swelling in my og peen has subsided loads. Keep getting phantom itches where the labia use to be, which is a bit of a mindfuck 🫠 There's also a tiny bit of wound seperation at the bottom "labia" incisions and top of the scrotum that I'm treating with medi honey. I'm already seeing a difference! Stoked to see how they look once they've loosen up. They're extremely high and tight on my body atm.
Only hiccup is that Dr. Dy (who implants the ED) is super back up and I can't get a consultation for stage 3 for 10 months then who even knows how long after that for surgery. No one would give me a timeline. So, if you're going to OHSU, try to get your stage 3 referral right after stage 1. Don't be like me lol. Luckily, Peters team is amazing and sent a referral to Dr. Skokan in WA, who they believe have a shorter wait. I should hear back in a week.
That said, if you know of anyone who has a shorter wait for ED, please let me know!
Other then that, I'm doing great and glad to be smelling less like a bag of wet bandaids! I'm super happy to have gone with Peters. I'm a lil nervous to have the next stage outside of OHSU but I trust Peters referral.
 
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Agree with @Procrastinhater here. I am going to need to see a source for a successful stinkditch installation pre-anaesthesia and antibiotics. Castration sure, that’s been going on a long time. The kind of gnostic flesh Lego stuff we have now absolutely not.
decided to have sex for the first time with her phallus with what appears to be a random Tinder hookup.
This is insane. You’ve just had major surgery and think the appropriate way to test drive new sexual whatever is via a tinder hookup. There are many levels here. Sad, deluded, lonely, insane.
but jeans only ever tear at the crotch.
Yeah this is something I’ve always thought odd becasue adult women don’t scuff the knees. Kids do, because they’re constantly falling and doing ‘epic slides’ but adult jeans go in the crotch because fabric is shit these days and even the minimal thigh contact from someone of a normal weight is enough to make them go through. Grr. Bring back proper jeans .
( I’ve had my gardening jeans go through at the knees (I use the Velcro knee pads now to save my ancient and creaky knee joints.) )
 
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