Are you lost needing femoid advice post here - For the poor bastard's who dare or are just curious

[Inside your walls]

Why the fuck would you want to look like a male bodybuilder? Do you have any idea how often they are on steroids and the like? You need to see a psychiatrist if you cannot make peace with the typical body type of a woman and if your ideal female body type is a bulked, gross pooner-like one.
Imagine crying about this sort of shit. It's like I'd cry cause I am not 2m and 105kgs like Luka Doncic or w/e.

It's kinda how some women (usually those that suffered sexual abuse during childhood) would purposefully make themselves fat to ward off any potential offenders from them as a self-defense mechanic, but instead of bloatmaxxing they are just roidmaxxing .It's just the other extreme of the same coin.

Never settle for a man who isn’t a virgin of mind and body at the bare minimum. The rest are used up and sexually disordered, and they are guaranteed to take it out on you in ways that are cruel, shocking, and psychologically or physically violent.

Okay I know this might be a controversial question, but in your personal opinion if let's say a man was sexually abused or raped by someone during their childhood or even somewhere later in life as an adult is he tainted in your mind? Is he forever defiled and perverted because technically his mind and body aren't that of a virgin due to his circumstances? Because I know for a fact if somebody said this kind of things about a woman like you said about men, this kind of question would pop up and if the answer to this question was "Yes", let's say this thread would turn into a massive dumpster fire.

 

[Quack_Quack]

Not to doompill, but don't do it unless she's within a 2-hour car ride of where you live. Every retard with an online gf thinks "THIS time it'll WORK because we LOVE each other!!1" then immediately gets cheated on. If she's not within ~130 miles, don't do it.

Dated a guy who lives in Finland. Lasted 2 years and I miss the giant ice creams.

Dated a guy 40 minutes away. Married that fucker over a decade ago. Smeghead.

I saw this from Android raptor in another thread. I'm going to assume stealthing (taking off/pretending to use/damage a condom) is a real thing done by scumbags but can you not actually tell the difference between a condom and bare penis? Does it depend on the type of condom?

You can't usually tell, until they cum and then you can.

My partner try it before trannycaust and taking down by cloud flare he gave up with in a day. For him there was too much autism . I shudder to think what happens when two bona fide kiwifarms users decide to reproduce.

I believe my kids are fucked then.

Sounds like a good way to get food poisoning, period blood isn't really that voluminous

You'd need a substantial number of menses dependant on volume, length, and storage of blood. Like it needs to be sanitary.

Your BDD isn't going to change if you take roids. If you ever attain the body you currently want you'll probably just move the goal posts and want more. You need mental help.

I think a good therapist would be more beneficial than steroids

 

[Herr Flick]

Mmm, no, what you wrote is not bog-standard hetero guy, not by a long shot. And I beg to differ on your characterization of your construct. I am a loquacious over-explainer myself, and in general my world is words, so I'm not cross-eyed at your number of of them or the fact of a detailed breakdown. My reaction is to the substance of your explanation/rationale. Idc if you're male, female, gay, straight, highly sexual or anti-sexual, whatever; the position you described portrays exceptional alienation and antipathy.

Despite your attempt at condescension it is very clear that you have not actually grasped anything I have said. I have not described individual “heterosexual” men, but rather the fundamental essence of a man’s sexual function. If you would like to elaborate upon your, I understand, substantially differing assessment, I would be much more invested if you would address this central premise instead of engaging in backhanded ad hominem.

Okay I know this might be a controversial question, but in your personal opinion if let's say a man was sexually abused or raped by someone during their childhood or even somewhere later in life as an adult is he tainted in your mind? Is he forever defiled and perverted because technically his mind and body aren't that of a virgin due to his circumstances? Because I know for a fact if somebody said this kind of things about a woman like you said about men, this kind of question would pop up and if the answer to this question was "Yes", let's say this thread would turn into a massive dumpster fire.

Men are fundamentally defiled and perverted by their fascination with their own sex and what they can inflict it upon unless they have the virtue and understanding necessary to tame this base nature into something slightly less repugnant. Talk to a sixth grader.

I see you pulling the classical disingenuous edge case card but I will address it anyway: if he is a man of heroic virtue who was indeed abused, he has my genuine sympathy, but my previous point is unchanged.

 

[Shidoen]

@Herr Flick if you wish for an untainted man you can find one before the apple was eaten. There is literally no man in existence that is untainted mentally, physically, or both. Same applies for women.

 

[Herr Flick]

@Herr Flick if you wish for an untainted man you can find one before the apple was eaten. There is literally no man in existence that is untainted mentally, physically, or both. Same applies for women.

Yes, exactly. This is a key component of my point.

 

[Shidoen]

Yes, exactly. This is a key component of my point.

Does this mean the taint and how much extent it has on someone judges their worth and how deserving they are of a relationship?

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

Despite your attempt at condescension it is very clear that you have not actually grasped anything I have said. I have not described individual “heterosexual” men, but rather the fundamental essence of a man’s sexual function. If you would like to elaborate upon your, I understand, substantially differing assessment, I would be much more invested if you would address this central premise instead of engaging in backhanded ad hominem.

If I'd wanted to be condescending I'd have written in the style you affect.

"The fundamental essence of a man's sexual function."

Do you by chance enjoy reading Joe Grace Lavery's work?

I'm not here to say you should want to have sex or couple up with a man. I'm merely saying your approach is highly - as I've said - alienated and antipathic. Do you.

If your "central premise" is that sex is revolting because men are inherently horrid, and one-dimensional, to the point of being repugnant as a class and something to post sentries at the gate to guard against, there's really not much there to address. As I originally said, I'm sorry for you - and to expand on that, that comment actually wasn't about being sorry that you don't like/want men (which is a completely legit choice), but rather was about being sorry you have such a truncated, dry concept of both intimacy and general humanity.

 

[ConsentAccidentVictimNo98]

Y'all do realize Herr Flick is a literal internet oldie who admitted to concealing any relevance to their sex primarily bc of how men would immediately begin cooming over the prospect of talking to boobas online?

 

[Shidoen]

Y'all do realize Herr Flick is a literal internet oldie who admitted to concealing any relevance to their sex primarily bc of how men would immediately begin cooming over the prospect of talking to boobas online?

She’s not wrong but she’s also not right.

 

[Herr Flick]

Does this mean the taint and how much extent it has on someone judges their worth and how deserving they are of a relationship?

Nobody deserves a relationship. It is always a privilege to have another human being (who is not beholden to the duties of familial ties) genuinely love you, even if they aren’t perfect. No one is, after all.

However, it is an observable fact that the more one’s relationship with the sexual faculties is distorted, the less suited to a relationship—generally speaking—one becomes, as it inevitably reduces the other person to a sexual object, in some if not all circumstances.

If I'd wanted to be condescending I'd have written in the style you affect.

"The fundamental essence of a man's sexual function."

Do you by chance enjoy reading Joe Grace Lavery's work?

I'm not here to say you should want to have sex or couple up with a man. I'm merely saying your approach is highly - as I've said - alienated and antipathic. Do you.

If your "central premise" is that sex is revolting because men are inherently horrid, and one-dimensional, to the point of being repugnant as a class and something to post sentries at the gate to guard against, there's really not much there to address. As I originally said, I'm sorry for you - and to expand on that, that comment actually wasn't about being sorry that you don't like/want men (which is a completely legit choice), but rather was about being sorry you have such a truncated, dry concept of both intimacy and general humanity.

I understand. Thank you for your contributions.

 

[Shidoen]

Nobody deserves a relationship. It is always a privilege to have another human being (who is not beholden to the duties of familial ties) genuinely love you, even if they aren’t perfect. No one is, after all.

However, it is an observable fact that the more one’s relationship with the sexual faculties is distorted, the less suited to a relationship—generally speaking—one becomes, as it inevitably reduces the other person to a sexual object, in some if not all circumstances.


I understand. Thank you for your contributions.

A privilege, what a word to use for a relationship, you make it sound more like being given a gift instead of actually something you earn. I don’t disagree with the unsuitableness that happens with sexual distortion, however I don’t agree that distortion causes the other to be viewed as a sexual object especially with certain circumstances.

 

[Friend of Dorothy Parker]

I understand. Thank you for your contributions.

 

[Inside your walls]

A privilege, what a word to use for a relationship, you make it sound more like being given a gift instead of actually something you earn. I don’t disagree with the unsuitableness that happens with sexual distortion, however I don’t agree that distortion causes the other to be viewed as a sexual object especially with certain circumstances.

If we were to base how relationships would function based on this idea of it being a privilege, then most of us wouldn't even have it as we wouldn't meet the criteria for it.

Everybody is "tainted" in one way or another in this current world, but should we just throw our hands in the air and say there's nothing we can do about it, further enable our depravities or should we despite being "tainted" do our best to pursue a virtuous path despite being allegedly bound to this "tainted" nature?

Yes, there are people that are absolutely malicious and will try to defile you whether it's physically or psychologically, but there also those that will do their best to help you too.

 

[Herr Flick]

A privilege, what a word to use for a relationship, you make it sound more like being given a gift instead of actually something you earn. I don’t disagree with the unsuitableness that happens with sexual distortion, however I don’t agree that distortion causes the other to be viewed as a sexual object especially with certain circumstances.

It is a gift—a mutual gift. Or at least, it should be. If it’s not, one party is holding back and almost certainly using the other. These are the classic motives of sex, security and money, which really just hollow the whole thing out into a shadow when they become the primary objective(s).

You certainly don’t “earn” a relationship. That implies that after putting in x amount of effort, you are owed one, like a paycheck. It also implies that people with more “earning power,” like money or looks, are owed their successes while those without such things are not only guaranteed to fail but deserve to fail. This is not only untrue but it is also a very self-damaging perspective.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

@Herr Flick Thank you for that detailed response. I am not as viscerally repulsed by men or sex with a man as you seem to be, but I find myself alienated from the idea of marriage due to the behavior of the men around me. I'm seeing a lot of my married friends either locked in miserable marriages or getting divorced because the man is unbearable/unfaithful/coming out as gay or trans. When I enter the "talking" phase with a man, something inevitably happens that makes me utterly lose interest, if not outright angry. Even the wholesome Christian lads start throwing off major red flags for retardation, sexism, or immaturity in short order.

I get lonely sometimes but not romantically lonely, and getting married to "fix" loneliness is a common mistake. I'm beginning to think I might just stay single. It allows me time to help my family and friends if they need it and I can focus on my hobbies without having to wonder what some dude wants to do. However, I find your point on "be fruitful and multiply" applying to souls if not children to be really interesting. I'll have to chew on that one.

I will cease derailing this thread.

 

[Shidoen]

It is a gift—a mutual gift. Or at least, it should be. If it’s not, one party is holding back and almost certainly using the other. These are the classic motives of sex, security and money, which really just hollow the whole thing out into a shadow when they become the primary objective(s).

You certainly don’t “earn” a relationship. That implies that after putting in x amount of effort, you are owed one, like a paycheck. It also implies that people with more “earning power,” like money or looks, are owed their successes while those without such things are not only guaranteed to fail but deserve to fail. This is not only untrue but it is also a very self-damaging perspective.

When I mean earn I don’t intend it to be similar like a paycheck or some sort of object. It’s more like “hey this is me, I like you and you like me so let me be the best me and you be the best you so we can enjoy each other’s time”, that’s how you earn it, you put your own effort in to earn the effort of someone else, that’s a partnership.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

Even the wholesome Christian lads start throwing off major red flags for...sexism...

If you are concerned about "sexism" than the last person you need to be bothering is a Christian. Feminists have been bitching about Christian "sexism" for over 100 years at this point, probably closer to 200 years.

 

[Big Miss Steak]

If you are concerned about "sexism" than the last person you need to be bothering is a Christian. Feminists have been bitching about Christian "sexism" for over 100 years at this point, probably closer to 200 years.

I'm a lifelong Christian and do not consider myself a feminist. What you think I mean by sexism and what I actually mean by sexism are probably not the same thing. I own a snake and kill mice/rats for her (she will not eat frozen thawed), I bowhunt squirrels behind my house, I hold a high-stress and well-paying job in a traditionally masculine field, and I find other people's kids annoying. This has bothered quite a few men and that's fine, they can go find a woman who isn't me. It's a little confusing since they were always the one who started approaching me and wanting to talk/hang out more, but I'm glad it was something that came up early on before either of us had invested much time or energy.

 

[Herr Flick]

When I mean earn I don’t intend it to be similar like a paycheck or some sort of object. It’s more like “hey this is me, I like you and you like me so let me be the best me and you be the best you so we can enjoy each other’s time”, that’s how you earn it, you put your own effort in to earn the effort of someone else, that’s a partnership.

Ah, yes, I see. My analogy was admittedly informed by the incel talking points I see brought up on a regular basis.

But to return to my original wording, I have said that no one deserves a relationship, and that it is a mutual privilege for those involved to have one. I stand by it. To believe that one deserves a relationship is indeed to believe that one is owed access to the life of some other human being, usually of a given category. This subtle thought is the very first entitlement. Someone who isn’t grateful for their spouse will inevitably become neglectful or abusive.

It doesn’t matter if you’re Chad Thundercock with your pick of the finest ladies or Stacy with all the gents at your beck and call. You may have an abundance of options because of your efforts, yes, and you can and should respect your hard work; but this doesn’t mean you deserve a relationship, it just means you are far more likely to get it. The difference is subtle, but important. Indeed, this is the secret crux of incel logic.

@Herr Flick Thank you for that detailed response. I am not as viscerally repulsed by men or sex with a man as you seem to be, but I find myself alienated from the idea of marriage due to the behavior of the men around me. I'm seeing a lot of my married friends either locked in miserable marriages or getting divorced because the man is unbearable/unfaithful/coming out as gay or trans. When I enter the "talking" phase with a man, something inevitably happens that makes me utterly lose interest, if not outright angry. Even the wholesome Christian lads start throwing off major red flags for retardation, sexism, or immaturity in short order.

I get lonely sometimes but not romantically lonely, and getting married to "fix" loneliness is a common mistake. I'm beginning to think I might just stay single. It allows me time to help my family and friends if they need it and I can focus on my hobbies without having to wonder what some dude wants to do. However, I find your point on "be fruitful and multiply" applying to souls if not children to be really interesting. I'll have to chew on that one.

As you have observed, marriage alone doesn’t fix loneliness. Human beings do require social interaction, but fortunately there are many other avenues to keep and maintain rich relationships. One thing which is always of benefit in this regard is a robust prayer life.

I am grateful that you have the good sense to know when you are being hoodwinked and the self respect to be angry about it. Few things upset me more than watching a good woman end up chained to the whims of a man who loves his cock more than his wife. Occasionally learning about the existence of those such as yourself is a welcome respite.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

I'm a lifelong Christian and do not consider myself a feminist. What you think I mean by sexism and what I actually mean by sexism are probably not the same thing.

And what would you consider sexism?