Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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What saddens me the most is that these Surgeons butchers don't explain any of that to their "patients", and they know all about this

I don’t know if that’s universal though. Many may explain it in detail but these patients are too ignorant to understand, too dumb to learn, too eager to care.

I once had a serious medical experience, and I’d talk with other patients with same diagnosis, same treatment, and even the same doctor as me. Many, the majority, didn’t really understand what was going on, what the medications were, what the outcome might be…it was incredibly eye-opening to see how medically illiterate most people are. Worse, most wanted me to explain things to them rather than look it up for themselves and actually learn. (I am not in the medical field.) I’d encourage them to ask the doctor but-for all this talk of “teams” many seem very afraid to ask doctors questions or to ask them to explain something they don’t understand. Then they get pissed when the doctor didn’t tell them, when it was really them not understanding.

I’ve no doubt that trannies are much worse than somebody struck by an illness, and the physicians more devious, but I also think the same thing plays out with them too. That’s why the Reddit group is popular, they just want the answers they want without even learning the questions.
 
Unpopular opinion and top hat me idc, but I can't stand OG pooner Buck Angel. Occasionally she says some reasonable things about the current state of troon political madness, but so does my boomer aunt. Buck has what I call "John Waters syndrome": she wants her transgressive behavior to be legal, lauded, and influential, but not TOO influential because she depends upon the society at large remaining uptight and square enough that she can still be comfortably and safely transgressive. Total luxury beliefs. She wants to be able to holler about being judged but still freak out the squares. I cannot take someone like Buck seriously when they go on social media and gripe about troon medicine, media, politics, etc having gone too far, or about herself being the real thing and others posers, etc. Bitch, you helped usher this in. Congratulations
plus she's fucking gross. I mean, something about a "man" with a vagina is so much more repulsive than the traditional chicks-with-dicks trannies, imo (maybe because I'm a straight woman, I don't know)
 
Since we're on the topic of this, is there any prominent older trans woman in the media who didn't transition late in life? I've been actually searching for it all morning and I can't find one older trans story where it wasn't about a man transitioning in their 50s or 60s, I can't find anyone who transitioned like 20-30 years ago and is being held up as a success example. Obviously there's an implied gotcha in this question, because I think we know the answer as to why they are so rare, but it's actually sort of shocking how hard it is for me to find it, even if I was just genuinely interested and not coming at it from the angle this thread. Buck Angel is like the only example I can find of any notability, and he's basically on the outs, otherwise it would seem that older trans people (as in those who transitioned a long time ago) are essentially absent from any of the trans cult agitprop.
 
Since we're on the topic of this, is there any prominent older trans woman in the media who didn't transition late in life? I've been actually searching for it all morning and I can't find one older trans story where it wasn't about a man transitioning in their 50s or 60s, I can't find anyone who transitioned like 20-30 years ago and is being held up as a success example. Obviously there's an implied gotcha in this question, because I think we know the answer as to why they are so rare, but it's actually sort of shocking how hard it is for me to find it, even if I was just genuinely interested and not coming at it from the angle this thread.
Oldest one of any prominence was Jan Morris

 
I know that this is going to be a race between getting relief of some kind and excruciating pain. They show all the speed and care of snail on thorazine and are convinced that I just need a Foley. I tell them that my anatomy is weird and that it's not going to work. Spoiler, I'm right.
They‘re all so fucking hoity-toity and superior. The mangled remains of your dick rotted off because of your own hubris. I don’t think you’re in any position to Le Sigh over the stupidity of the medical staff. Objectively the stupidest, most deluded people in the world, and they still look down on everyone else with lofty disdain. Fuck the doctors for destroying your kidneys with antibiotics to stop you dying of sepsis. If only this could have been prevented somehow.
The iron will of the nurses to save this dipshit’s life instead of just throttling it, yelling “YOU DID THIS” into his face.
 
Since we're on the topic of this, is there any prominent older trans woman in the media who didn't transition late in life? I've been actually searching for it all morning and I can't find one older trans story where it wasn't about a man transitioning in their 50s or 60s, I can't find anyone who transitioned like 20-30 years ago and is being held up as a success example. Obviously there's an implied gotcha in this question, because I think we know the answer as to why they are so rare, but it's actually sort of shocking how hard it is for me to find it, even if I was just genuinely interested and not coming at it from the angle this thread. Buck Angel is like the only example I can find of any notability, and he's basically on the outs, otherwise it would seem that older trans people (as in those who transitioned a long time ago) are essentially absent from any of the trans cult agitprop.
There's Amanda/Armand Lepore, an HSTS who is now in his late 50's: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanda_Lepore

Supposedly he had the dick chop as young as 19.
 
Since we're on the topic of this, is there any prominent older trans woman in the media who didn't transition late in life? I've been actually searching for it all morning and I can't find one older trans story where it wasn't about a man transitioning in their 50s or 60s, I can't find anyone who transitioned like 20-30 years ago and is being held up as a success example. Obviously there's an implied gotcha in this question, because I think we know the answer as to why they are so rare, but it's actually sort of shocking how hard it is for me to find it, even if I was just genuinely interested and not coming at it from the angle this thread. Buck Angel is like the only example I can find of any notability, and he's basically on the outs, otherwise it would seem that older trans people (as in those who transitioned a long time ago) are essentially absent from any of the trans cult agitprop.

In Spain there's Bibi Andersen who is 70 years old. He became famous in the 80's and it's been a celebrity ever since, every spaniard over 40 knows who he is. Wikipedia says he got the stinkditch in 1991 in London but by his own account he had already been butchered operated on by a doctor in Tanger some years prior and he's been taking hormones since his late teens.
 
I don’t know if that’s universal though. Many may explain it in detail but these patients are too ignorant to understand, too dumb to learn, too eager to care.

I once had a serious medical experience, and I’d talk with other patients with same diagnosis, same treatment, and even the same doctor as me. Many, the majority, didn’t really understand what was going on, what the medications were, what the outcome might be…it was incredibly eye-opening to see how medically illiterate most people are.

I know that patients frequently hear only what they want to hear. And often they don't want to hear the inconvenient disclaimer from all the complications of a procedure that you just explained to them. I had many personal experiences from that.

But I'm very biased. It is my opinion that these procedures aren't ethical at all. And I'm not expecting ethical behavior from the butchers that do it. Yes, I'm an asshole for that. That's not a good rational standard, and I should give them the benefit of the doubt.

They probably explain all the complications. But I'm inclined to believe that in the most underwritten way possible. Selling you to believe that almost it never happens and it won't happen to you (without explicitly saying so). But I don't have any evidence for that. It is just my biased opinion.
 
Oldest one of any prominence was Jan Morris

I picked up one of his travel books in the library when I was a kid, because it had been referenced in another book I was reading. It was a weird experience, I kept thinking something was off, this lady doesn't write with a female sounding voice, basically, these references sound like something a guy would say, and such. Many years later I found out "she" was a tranny and it all made sense. It's hilarious that he couldn't even "pass" on the written page being read by a completely naive kid.
 
I just crack up when these troons go off about "the doctors don't understand my anatomy" shit.

Like, my dude....do you not realize that you do NOT have anything close to standard bits? You got a "custom job", and you are most likely the first one that these doctors have ever seen. These abominations have not been inflicted on humanity for very long, maybe only about ten years. I guarantee most doctors practicing now did not learn about this frankenshit in medical school. You're the equivalent of a half-Martian showing up in the ER with some hybrid sorta-human parts, and you expect them to know what to do with this......thing.......that's going necrotic between your legs that should not be there?

But this guy. Fucking hell, you just spent two months on dialysis because you can't pee properly, and you're more worried about getting a fake clitoris crafted out of nerves from your hand?? IDK, I'd rather get that urinary tract fixed, but then again, I'm not some AGP freak desperate to coom at least one more time before I die (painfully, most likely).
 
A fake clitoris from hand nerves? Lol what? A clitoris has 8,000 nerves. You won’t feel shit from hand nerves sexually.
Yeah all he's gonna do is permanently damage the function of his hand. If he's lucky it'll be minor, something like the ability to feel hot or cold, or loss of sensation, but he'll still be able to use it. If he's unlucky he'll lose the ability to use it completely and it'll just hang there.
If he's really unlucky (and if he maintains standard Troon hygeine) the new wound where they're gonna cut open his 'ditch to try and McGyver him a "clit" will get infected, go necrotic, and end up fucking his kidneys even more when they have to treat sepsis.
 
I think he’s talking about a cable graft - basically it’s a piece of vascularised nerve that’s taken and attached to two ends nerve stumps and the idea is that it provides the scaffolding for the nerve to grow along. They often do this for facial injuries to try to fix important things like being able to close your eyelids. I’m not sure which nerve he means by ‘in the wrist’ but the most common one used is the sural nerve which runs down the leg and inervates part of the lower leg. I think they can take a nerve as well that inner area the forearm (medial cutaneous? Been a long time since I did any anatomy…)

But it will be pointless. There is no ‘clit’ to hookup. Nerve grafts work for things where there is a gap in transmission - so if you’ve had a surgery and removed a tumour for example and had to take a bit of nerve out. You can’t just shove a nerve graft into this guys crotch and expect erotic sensation.

It really is meat Lego isn’t it? He’s going to end up with lowered feeling in his arm and possibly fuck uk hand function, all chasing the coom that can never ever be fixed.
 
The tv show Nip-Tuck built a woman who had FGM when young a brand new clit using the tip of one of her toes. Maybe they can do that for troons.
They probably used what was left of her actual clit that wasn't damaged though. The clitoris is more than just whats at the surface, (from medical diagrams I've seen it looks sort of like the Kiwi Farms logo with the end of the beak being the only part visible :story:) depending how hack happy the fucking monsters that did that to the woman go with the scalpel, there was likely a fair bit left under the surface, so to speak.
It's much easier to try to repair that than create an entirely new organ for a Troon when there is nothing and no analogous structure to build off of.

I love your horrifying Chicken-Bear by the way.
 
The tv show Nip-Tuck built a woman who had FGM when young a brand new clit using the tip of one of her toes. Maybe they can do that for troons.
Nip/Tuck is the equivalent of Grey’s Anatomy, House, or Royal Pains. There might be medical-ish info in there, but I bet actual doctors use it as a drinking game.

“They used the defibrillator for a stopped heart! Take a shot!”
 
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