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[BondoBob]

And to think I blamed Chase as the main reason this thread is a clusterfuck
>pippa is mentioned
>people immediately begin infighting for 5 pages straight
If you're wondering what the "debate" is over, the main point can be summarized as:
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>my favorite anime is one of the good ones
Nobody asked nor cares.

Autism so strong the sites breaking.

100%.

Somebody needs to tell Vito the pedo, juju the cow and Max "Mr Girl" Karson that all they need to sell the 'pedophilia is a funny joke, guys' bit is to make a cartoon child avatar and start using a voice changer. That's basically what this boils down to.

I'm sure there are plenty of vtubers that don't engage in pedo-baiting or pandering, and I'm sure the people with anime avatars in this thread could tell me all of them. It's pretty gross though, to any normal person, I'm just gonna be real with y'all.

 

[Procrastinhater]

I can hear her frustration there.
This is her audience. Her audience are the most twisted bunch of parasocial coom brained deviants on the Internet.
She's right pornography has ruined those people. It took a group of people who were already autistic as fuck and undersocialized and just encouraged and aggravated their worst tendencies to the point that they're quite literally pornsick.

 

[Lidl Drip]

I can hear her frustration there.
This is her audience. Her audience are the most twisted bunch of parasocial coom brained deviants on the Internet.
She's right pornography has ruined those people. It took a group of people who were already autistic as fuck and undersocialized and just encouraged and aggravated their worst tendencies to the point that they're quite literally pornsick.

But that's the audience she created and caters to, that's who pays her income. I feel like she's only playing lip service when she chastizes that sort of stuff because she is literally still pretending to be a widdle girl with a toddler voice for a living. Of course her audience are degenerate coomers and pedos.

It might even be a fetish for them to be called disgusting coomers by their girlfriend-experience e-prostitute. It seems to be a theme with vtubers to say degenerate things "accidentally" and then act super embarrassed over it (because goo goo ga ga I'm an innocent widdle baby) and the audience eats that shit up, like they are roleplaying corrupting and grooming a child and the vtuber plays into that role. "Nooo don't say sex things you b-baka!! x3 That is so perverted and I am so innocent!!" like come the fuck on. It's all part of the grift.

 

[Procrastinhater]

But that's the audience she created and caters to, that's who pays her income. I feel like she's only playing lip service when she chastizes that sort of stuff because she is literally still pretending to be a widdle girl with a toddler voice for a living. Of course her audience are degenerate coomers and pedos.

It might even be a fetish for them to be called disgusting coomers by their girlfriend-experience e-prostitute. It seems to be a theme with vtubers to say degenerate things "accidentally" and then act super embarrassed over it (because goo goo ga ga I'm an innocent widdle baby) and the audience eats that shit up, like they are roleplaying corrupting and grooming a child and the vtuber plays into that role. "Nooo don't say sex things you b-baka!! x3 That is so perverted and I am so innocent!!" like come the fuck on. It's all part of the grift.

That would not surprise me. The whole thing is fucked and incredibly sus and like any thread on this subject this one seems to be a smouldering garbage fire that gets repeatedly kicked up into a blaze, with a frequency and regularity that makes me wonder if it isn't deliberate by people that would rather have pages of arguing rather than a serious look into these "entertainers" and their audience.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

if it isn't deliberate by people that would rather have pages of arguing rather than a serious look into these "entertainers" and their audience.

it started with a "serious" look: a few 5 or 6 minutes clips out of several thousand hours of content. the problem is that no one cares enough to watch 3 years of any individuals content to mark all the good, the bad and the ugly.

 

[Passing Through Town]

that makes me wonder if it isn't deliberate by people that would rather have pages of arguing rather than a serious look into these "entertainers" and their audience.

It takes two to derail a thread. Maybe some of the people want to avoid a serious look into these people, but there are anti-vtuber people here contributing just as much to this thread being a shitshow by engaging with people who obviously aren't going to change their mind anytime soon. I blame Ralph. If he actually continued to attack vtubers we'd have some content to keep everyone focused on.

 

[3deadniggers]

Yep, this thread looks just as gay and retarded as the last time I checked in.

It's anime, what else would it be?

It might even be a fetish for them to be called disgusting coomers by their girlfriend-experience e-prostitute. It seems to be a theme with vtubers to say degenerate things "accidentally" and then act super embarrassed over it (because goo goo ga ga I'm an innocent widdle baby) and the audience eats that shit up, like they are roleplaying corrupting and grooming a child and the vtuber plays into that role. "Nooo don't say sex things you b-baka!! x3 That is so perverted and I am so innocent!!" like come the fuck on. It's all part of the grift.

Cute anime girl says offensive thing is the easiest way for these people to go viral. It's a built in audience if you act like saying nigger is cute and normal.

 

[BondoBob]

it started with a "serious" look: a few 5 or 6 minutes clips out of several thousand hours of content. the problem is that no one cares enough to watch 3 years of any individuals content to mark all the good, the bad and the ugly.

Just curious, why should a coomer vtuber get some kind of special consideration from me requiring me to analyze thousands of hours of footage for multiple years of streaming for me to come to the conclusion that pedo-baiting to draw an audience with explicit sexual content referencing shit, piss, loli etc., is disgusting?

Would you give the same consideration to any other streamer that isn't cloaking their identity in the cutesy trappings of your favorite chosen media?

Many people who watch these vtubers (not all, sure), are weirdos who have even (in some cases) desensitized themselves with cartoon pornography to real women and recoil and seethe whenever you bring up women in media and throw around buzzwords like "femoids" or "thots" and have bordering on incel reactions to normal women engaged in normal activities (usually rhetoric or inflammatory comments hoping they get raped). It's not hard to find these comments on YouTube, in their twitch (or whatever platform) chats, in forums or on twitter - and it's probably safe to say it's ubiquitous in those communities.

It's hard to get me to be sympathetic to these people when I'm being asked to "use context," when the context is explicit sexual content couched as a joke to dance right up to the line in an effort to entertain creepy pedos, tbqh. I would never give the same leeway to anybody in the "sektur" or anybody else for that matter.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

I can hear her frustration there.
This is her audience. Her audience are the most twisted bunch of parasocial coom brained deviants on the Internet.
She's right pornography has ruined those people. It took a group of people who were already autistic as fuck and undersocialized and just encouraged and aggravated their worst tendencies to the point that they're quite literally pornsick.

This is the grave she built, and I don't pity her. I forgot who pointed this out, but a page or so ago, someone claimed that VTubers are the final form of "Anime pictures", and so it seems to be true. I don't care if the audience is edgy or whatnot, the parasocial relationship between the content creator and audience is maddening to watch and the voice itself is grating to hear. I wish all those who like this form of entertainment a good "containment". I'll leave the reader to guess whatever that entails - be it good or bad.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

Just curious, why should a coomer vtuber get some kind of special consideration from me requiring me to analyze thousands of hours of footage for multiple years of streaming for me to come to the conclusion that pedo-baiting to draw an audience with explicit sexual content referencing shit, piss, loli etc., is disgusting?

Would you give the same consideration to any other streamer that isn't cloaking their identity in the cutesy trappings of your favorite chosen media?

Many people who watch these vtubers (not all, sure), are weirdos who have even (in some cases) desensitized themselves with cartoon pornography to real women and recoil and seethe whenever you bring up women in media and throw around buzzwords like "femoids" or "thots" and have bordering on incel reactions to normal women engaged in normal activities (usually rhetoric or inflammatory comments hoping they get raped). It's not hard to find these comments on YouTube, in their twitch (or whatever platform) chats, in forums or on twitter - and it's probably safe to say it's ubiquitous in those communities.

It's hard to get me to be sympathetic to these people when I'm being asked to "use context," when the context is explicit sexual content couched as a joke to dance right up to the line in an effort to entertain creepy pedos, tbqh. I would never give the same leeway to anybody in the "sektur" or anybody else for that matter.

yeah incels suck and if you dont want a "serious" discussion into an individual or a topic you can do whatever you want. Hell, you dont even have to read the thread and post all this shit about a different person than the one i was taljing about

 

[BondoBob]

yeah incels suck and if you dont want a "serious" discussion into an individual or a topic you can do whatever you want. Hell, you dont even have to read the thread and post all this shit about a different person than the one i was taljing about

I presumed you were talking about Pipkin, in which case everything I said was applicable. Were you referring to some other person?

 

[oh no its pipkun]

I presumed you were talking about Pipkin, in which case everything I said was applicable. Were you referring to some other person?

that pedo-baiting to draw an audience with explicit sexual content referencing shit, piss, loli etc., is disgusting

although i am talking about pipkin, you're not because none of that applies.

 

[BondoBob]

although i am talking about pipkin, you're not because none of that applies.

So, if I were to dig up that clip of her talking about her support for the ethical consumption of CP by non-offending pedophiles...? (Which I believe may have even been posted earlier in this very thread)

The edgy jokes about loli (being the "loli queen" or some such) to play to the entertainment of the more questionable parts of her audience, the use of a child avatar and voice, I mean, basically everything I said, you think none of that is applicable?

 

[WelperHelper99]

Hololive has been around for 8 years and they've grown by a ton. They've got a bunch of talents who frequently break the tens of thousands (which is big for Vtubers) and frequently get collaborations with big companies (Hololive collabed with Azur Lane, they're doing one with the LA dodgers, they are going to a NY concert, there's even been famous VAs for anime who did stuff with them such as Aoi Yuuki and even the guy who was Kiryu (Yakuza). They even have done stuff with DC (Mori doing the OP and ED songs for their suicide squad anime) furthermore, the debut of their newest Vtubers under HoloJustice (EN), their Britbong got 180K viewers.

If this were a company that was about to die, i doubt they'd have been able to accomplish all this. Furthermore, for some individual talents who have done very well:

Gawr Gura the loli bitch who somehow has the most views for EN

Hochimachi Suisei: She started off as independent before she joined Hololive as Suisei back during its founding (2016). She's got millions of listeners to her songs and she frequently makes a ton of money due to her deals

Inugami Korone: I've seen tons of people enjoy her because she isn't some pedofag shit compared to Gura.

Usada Pekora: She was the #1 viewed female streamer like 2 years back.

In corporate terms that means they are investing heavily. You bring up brand deals. Those don't appear out of whole cloth. There is risk and expense that comes with it. And a significant cost just for the partnership. Hololive has stood for 8 years. Ok. Will they be here in 2030? 2040? Companies often look solid until they don't. Their business model screams to me they are burning as much money as they are getting chasing the magical broader audience that has been the death of many a company. Beware.

This is the grave she built, and I don't pity her. I forgot who pointed this out, but a page or so ago, someone claimed that VTubers are the final form of "Anime pictures", and so it seems to be true. I don't care if the audience is edgy or whatnot, the parasocial relationship between the content creator and audience is maddening to watch and the voice itself is grating to hear. I wish all those who like this form of entertainment a good "containment". I'll leave the reader to guess whatever that entails - be it good or bad.

That was me lol. The parisocial relationship is how freaks like Kiki aren't outed by their own communities, and why lolicons infest every Vtuber comment section. As long as the money flows, the corpos ignore it.

although i am talking about pipkin, you're not because none of that applies.

Her avatar is 3 in her own lore. Before you say rabbit years, look at this:

I don't think this person can drink bud. And she isn't even wearing pants. Which is... weird at best.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

So, if I were to dig up that clip of her talking about her support for the ethical consumption of CP by non-offending pedophiles...? (Which I believe may have even been posted earlier in this very thread

yeah shes having a discussion on a hard problem:
what do you with pedophiles in a country with civil rights? as it stands we can't force them dig their own grave before putting a bullet in their head. one of the proposals is ethical cp. my solution is building more coalingas to warehouse them. maybe robert barnes could get "killing pedophiles is ok" lawfared or amended into the 2nd amendment. but you have pay attention to the thing she's discussing before knee jerking. its like destinys stupid take. looking at the homeless polices in dem states, plying someone's addiction exacerbates the problem not prevent it.

I don't think this person can drink bud. And she isn't even wearing pants. Which is... weird at best.

yeah but she does drink on stream. so who do you call to report "underaged" drinking on stream? the vtuber police? youtube safety? even the 3 thing isn't years according to her. if youre trying to corner meat pippa as a pedophile youre doing a piss awful job.

 

[Sanshain]

Just curious, why should a coomer vtuber get some kind of special consideration from me requiring me to analyze thousands of hours of footage for multiple years of streaming for me to come to the conclusion that pedo-baiting to draw an audience with explicit sexual content referencing shit, piss, loli etc., is disgusting?

Because that's literally not what she does and you make yourself look like an easily-led imbecile by believing it so easily after being fed a few tiny clips.

There are plenty of bad vtubers out there, but if you don't actually do your reps, then you'll never get any traction with your arguments and will always be doomed to be laughed at by anyone with any serious knowledge of the subject.

 

[WelperHelper99]

yeah shes having a discussion on a hard problem:
what do you with pedophiles in a country with civil rights? as it stands we can't force them dig their own grave before putting a bullet in their head. one of the proposals is ethical cp. my solution is building more coalingas to warehouse them. maybe robert barnes could get "killing pedophiles is ok" lawfared or amended into the 2nd amendment. but you have pay attention to the thing she's discussing before knee jerking. its like destinys stupid take. looking at the homeless polices in dem states, plying someone's addiction exacerbates the problem not prevent it.

The question is WHY is a cartoon underage rabbit girl having these conversations?

yeah but she does drink on stream. so who do you call to report "underaged" drinking on stream? the vtuber police? youtube safety? even the 3 thing isn't years according to her. if youre trying to corner meat pippa as a pedophile youre a piss awful job.

You focus on the fact I said "drinking age" instead of the elephant in the room. Her avatar is clearly a child. Like it or not that attracts Lolicons. She could fix this right now with a avatar change, a age up, and purge the lolishits in one swoop. Why doesn't she? It would be easy, a click of a button. It's not that she can't, but that she chooses not to.

 

[Sanshain]

Her avatar is clearly a child. Like it or not that attracts Lolicons. She could fix this right now with a avatar change, a age up, and purge the lolishits in one swoop. Why doesn't she? It would be easy, a click of a button. It's not that she can't, but that she chooses not to.

You sound like one of those people who retweet pictures of petite A-cup women with their boyfriends with comments like 'urgh, revolting how women like these enable obvious paedophiles who are just using them as a legal way to indulge their sick, evil desires'.

 

[oh no its pipkun]

The question is WHY is a cartoon underage rabbit girl having these conversations?

because shes 26 or some shit? or the broad playing her is 26-32? how ever you want to distinguish the avatar from the VA. gotta jump over that hurdle first. I'll give you that if you come out and say " I believe in the gay lore and backstory of these people even though no one else does" or something similar.

You focus on the fact I said "drinking age" instead of the elephant in the room. Her avatar is clearly a child. Like it or not that attracts Lolicons. She could fix this right now with a avatar change, a age up, and purge the lolishits in one swoop. Why doesn't she? It would be easy, a click of a button. It's not that she can't, but that she chooses not to.

do you look at IBTC broads and say "theyre definitely undersage!"? gotta explain why you think "titless = kids" first and then explain how asian gf with no titties (AGWAT) isnt a sign of homosexuality.

 

[Lieutenant Rasczak]

You sound like one of those people who retweet pictures of petite A-cup women with their boyfriends with comments like 'urgh, revolting how women like these enable obvious paedophiles who are just using them as a legal way to indulge their sick, evil desires'.