Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

[AnOminous]

I hated this episode and I hate Stolaz. He's insufferable. That's it, that's my contribution. You guys seem to have the intelligent analysis part covered. I'm just seethe.

It actually pisses me off that Vivz presented Stolas, in the pilot, as the abusive asshole he actually is, then redeemed him in the Loo Loo Land episode, only to return him back to being an absolutely narcissistic shithead, but somehow, you're supposed to sympathize with him even after that.

Fujos were a mistake. They're utter trash.

 

[Edgeworth]

I like that it makes all the alphabet mafia angry that there’s so many fruitcakes in hell lmao.
Seriously tho I can’t think of one character that has been confirmed to be heterosexual in either series.

I think the only character they confirmed was straight in either series is Niffty

 

[didelphigina]

I think the only character they confirmed was straight in either series is Niffty

Wait until they retcon that.

 

[Edgeworth]

If they were smart (and they aren't) they'd make more characters straight because, y'know, of that whole "oh so only fags go to hell" argument that they REALLY didn't think through when they made all the characters.

I'm sure someone thinks that Adam (and maybe Lute) is straight but I dunno, the dude sure did talk about dicks a lot for someone who's actually straight

 

[perry 23 tack]

If they were smart (and they aren't) they'd make more characters straight because, y'know, of that whole "oh so only fags go to hell" argument that they REALLY didn't think through when they made all the characters.

I'm sure someone thinks that Adam (and maybe Lute) is straight but I dunno, the dude sure did talk about dicks a lot for someone who's actually straight

Alex Brightman is voicing the character and Adam is clearly just an Andrew Tate (who we all know is a self-hating fag) stand in, so he's definitely bi at most. Definitely fucked the twink Saint Peter multiple times.

 

[The Nothingness]

I initially thought Millie was straight, but after it was revealed she pegs Moxxie and the summer camp episode I am now not sure.

 

[perry 23 tack]

God and Jesus are gonna appear one day in Hazbin and I won't be surprised if they make them both uwu pansexual femboys played by Nikocado Avocado and James Charles.

 

[Hammersmith]

Apparently there was recently a livestream done by Sam Haft, a guy who makes music for HH and HB. Some twitter user wrote down some notes about his statements in the livestream, and oh boy.

Some notable examples are:
- 'More songs in season 2 than season 1'
- 'Alastor isn't capable of caring about someone more than himself (wouldn't be a good dad)'
- 'Gooseworx did music for HH'
- 'Val = least redeemable Vee, Velvette most redeemable (could change in season 2)'
- 'Songs in season 2 are better'
- 'Hazbin S2 in 3 words: Shit gets nuts'
- 'Big emotional songs in season 2'
- 'There will be more new characters in season 2'
- 'There are depressing songs/moments in season 2'
- 'It's great working with Viv. Makes the job very easy because she has a clear vision for the characters and such'
- 'Sallie Mae will definitely get more screentime'
- 'Full HH soundtrack was made in less than 10 weeks'
- 'Music first (not melody), then lyrics + melody when writing songs'

Oh my God. Obligatory:

 

[InJailOutSoon]

I think the only character they confirmed was straight in either series is Niffty

That's true. HH and HB fans really, *really* like to figure out if a character is not straight. It's like when Loona said Beezlebub was hot, and immediately inferred that meant she liked girls as well. Even though she only ever has showed interest in men.

Nowadays, if someone finds someone else of the same sex to be good looking, it obviously means that they are some form of gay. Especially since people will say that romantic attraction and sexual attraction are completely separate from each other. So just because you don't want to fuck the same sex as you, doesn't mean you can't date the same sex as you...apparently.

 

[Seventh Star]

'There will be more new characters in season 2'

Oh good, just what the show needs, MORE characters. Stupid fujo fuck.

That's true. HH and HB fans really, *really* like to figure out if a character is not straight. It's like when Loona said Beezlebub was hot, and immediately inferred that meant she liked girls as well. Even though she only ever has showed interest in men.

That's not hella, nor a fun fact. Why would you be proud of having only one straight character is beyond me. Again, stupid fujo fuck.

 

[Resident Knievel]

Apparently there was recently a livestream done by Sam Haft, a guy who makes music for HH and HB. Some twitter user wrote down some notes about his statements in the livestream, and oh boy.
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Some notable examples are:
- 'More songs in season 2 than season 1'
- 'Alastor isn't capable of caring about someone more than himself (wouldn't be a good dad)'
- 'Gooseworx did music for HH'
- 'Val = least redeemable Vee, Velvette most redeemable (could change in season 2)'
- 'Songs in season 2 are better'
- 'Hazbin S2 in 3 words: Shit gets nuts'
- 'Big emotional songs in season 2'
- 'There will be more new characters in season 2'
- 'There are depressing songs/moments in season 2'
- 'It's great working with Viv. Makes the job very easy because she has a clear vision for the characters and such'
- 'Sallie Mae will definitely get more screentime'
- 'Full HH soundtrack was made in less than 10 weeks'
- 'Music first (not melody), then lyrics + melody when writing songs'

Oh my God. Obligatory:
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Im going to blow someone's head off if I hear another fucking song about how the characters are all uwu abused softboys i can't fucking stand it

 

[Grand Duke Snowfall]

Apparently there was recently a livestream done by Sam Haft, a guy who makes music for HH and HB. Some twitter user wrote down some notes about his statements in the livestream, and oh boy.
View attachment 6126201View attachment 6126202View attachment 6126206
Some notable examples are:
- 'More songs in season 2 than season 1'
- 'Alastor isn't capable of caring about someone more than himself (wouldn't be a good dad)'
- 'Gooseworx did music for HH'
- 'Val = least redeemable Vee, Velvette most redeemable (could change in season 2)'
- 'Songs in season 2 are better'
- 'Hazbin S2 in 3 words: Shit gets nuts'
- 'Big emotional songs in season 2'
- 'There will be more new characters in season 2'
- 'There are depressing songs/moments in season 2'
- 'It's great working with Viv. Makes the job very easy because she has a clear vision for the characters and such'
- 'Sallie Mae will definitely get more screentime'
- 'Full HH soundtrack was made in less than 10 weeks'
- 'Music first (not melody), then lyrics + melody when writing songs'

Oh my God. Obligatory:
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“Joel Perez enjoys playing Val, describes him as a “sweetie pie””

Fucking gag me.

 

[This ruined Sonic]

- 'There will be more new characters in season 2'

Vivzie. STOP STUFFING YOUR SHOW WITH UNNECESSARY PLOTS AND CHARACTERS.
You simply do not have enough time. Maybe if HH had 20 episodes a season it could work, but you have 8.
Season 1 was bad enough with people completing their season long character arcs in 5 minutes, serious conflicts being introduced and resolved in just one episode. I don't even want to image what shitshow season 2 will be.

 

[didelphigina]

Apparently there was recently a livestream done by Sam Haft, a guy who makes music for HH and HB. Some twitter user wrote down some notes about his statements in the livestream, and oh boy.
View attachment 6126201View attachment 6126202View attachment 6126206
Some notable examples are:
- 'More songs in season 2 than season 1'
- 'Alastor isn't capable of caring about someone more than himself (wouldn't be a good dad)'
- 'Gooseworx did music for HH'
- 'Val = least redeemable Vee, Velvette most redeemable (could change in season 2)'
- 'Songs in season 2 are better'
- 'Hazbin S2 in 3 words: Shit gets nuts'
- 'Big emotional songs in season 2'
- 'There will be more new characters in season 2'
- 'There are depressing songs/moments in season 2'
- 'It's great working with Viv. Makes the job very easy because she has a clear vision for the characters and such'
- 'Sallie Mae will definitely get more screentime'
- 'Full HH soundtrack was made in less than 10 weeks'
- 'Music first (not melody), then lyrics + melody when writing songs'

Oh my God. Obligatory:
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Time to dissect this down.

- 'More songs in season 2 than season 1'

No. NO. We DON'T need more SONGS, DANG IT. FOCUS ON THE STORY. FOCUS ON THE PLOT. THE CHARACTERS. NOT MORE SING-A-LONGS FOR TEENAGERS TO SING TO. Feels so weird for an adult show to say "Sing-a-Longs". That's something I'd hear from Disney or Pixar. That's reasonable. But for a supposed "swearing: the show" adult show saying that? Feels out of place to me.

Not beating the allegations that y'alls show is just a teen show disguised as an adult one.

- 'Alastor isn't capable of caring about someone more than himself (wouldn't be a good dad)'

I saw on Tumblr that someone thought this was related to his asexuality, and knowing how desperate these sexless blokes are when it comes to acting like they're owed representation, they're gonna be screaming their balls off thinking Alastor is le evil representation of people who simply don't wanna have sex and because Alastor is EVIL and doesn't care for others feelings and just so HAPPENS to be asexual, that means he's being a stereotypical one!! OH NOES!!

- 'Gooseworx did music for HH'

Can't complain about this. Gooseworx's alright and is quite possibly the more tolerable trans people since she never makes it a central point of her identity. Especially now since she's more known for her show that has quite possibly taken over the entire internet. Good on her. I feel bad she's having to make music for this show of all shows, though.

- 'Val = least redeemable Vee, Velvette most redeemable (could change in season 2)'

Velvette? Redeemable? I highly doubt this. How's she gonna be redeemable? She's already an established Overlord! I think that redemption's not really possible at that point. How do we know she's not just pretending to be redeemable around Charlie so she can get info on the Hotel to slander it?

- 'Songs in season 2 are better'

AGAIN. WE DON'T NEED MORE SING-A-LONGS!! I DON'T CARE IF THEY'RE BETTER!! FOCUS ON THE ACTUAL STORY!

- 'Hazbin S2 in 3 words: Shit gets nuts'

Translation: We're gonna focus more on the V's and all the CRAAAZZZYY hijinks more than the established premise of Hazbin Hotel for an entire season. Again.

- 'Big emotional songs in season 2'

Yeah, yeah, trying to recreate this tweet again, I see.

- 'There will be more new characters in season 2'

WE. DON'T. NEED. MORE. CHARACTERS. Didn't y'all see how BLOATED the show was by introducing so many characters and barely letting any of them naturally flow and develop??? Why add more?? It's all gonna end up in hastily ended conflicts and situations that barely have any juice or real impact to the characters and story. If there are gonna be new characters, could you PLEASE at least add new sinners? Preferably, uh... hm... SINNERS WHO ARE LOOKING FOR REDEMPTION?? PLEASE??? PLEASE DO WHAT YOU ADVERTISED THE SHOW TO BE FOR ALMOST A DECADE??????????????????

- 'There are depressing songs/moments in season 2'

Showing this tweet again.

- 'It's great working with Viv. Makes the job very easy because she has a clear vision for the characters and such'

No. No, she doesn't. She doesn't at all. One of the biggest complaints people had about Hazbin Hotel was the huge LACK of vision for the characters. They're here one day and then they're not. They have the world's shortest arcs and have plot points and situations solved without any real nuance to them. She's the WORST director for managing character development, and you, Sam Haft, are a fool for believing she could ever know how to develop characters.

HB is the worst example of this.

- 'Sallie Mae will definitely get more screentime'

Translation: She will get more screentime for exposition dumps and to be the only excuse for Millie to have something more about her than her being the violent girlfriend of Moxxie. Will probably add in some drama in the mix.

- 'Full HH soundtrack was made in less than 10 weeks'

I don't know if he's talking about Season 1 or Season 2's soundtrack, but ten weeks does seem reasonable. Sort of. I wonder how the Season 2 songs will be. Don't wanna imagine them, though.

- 'Music first (not melody), then lyrics + melody when writing songs'

Ah, no wonder why some of the songs in Season 1 sounds so off-putting.

 

[Roger Dennis]

Vivzie. STOP STUFFING YOUR SHOW WITH UNNECESSARY PLOTS AND CHARACTERS.
You simply do not have enough time. Maybe if HH had 20 episodes a season it could work, but you have 8.
Season 1 was bad enough with people completing their season long character arcs in 5 minutes, serious conflicts being introduced and resolved in just one episode. I don't even want to image what shitshow season 2 will be.

I wonder if she’s referring to the other Overlords. As admittedly creative as their designs are, I think Viv missed her chance with them. She’s probably never going to use them again lol.

I do remember reading that she wanted to introduce a hyena-like demon (I don’t remember her name). I think there was also a fish-like demon who was a mad scientist. And I’m willing to bet they’re going to be yuri or yaoi bait.

 

[This ruined Sonic]

I do remember reading that she wanted to introduce a hyena-like demon (I don’t remember her name). I think there was also a fish-like demon who was a mad scientist. And I’m willing to bet they’re going to be yuri or yaoi bait.

They'll be furry bait first and for most. I also wonder if she'll introduce any trannies. She's pandering to LGBTQ+ community pretty hard, but as far as I'm aware she hasn't had any Ts yet. If she doesn't add them soon, her audience will accuse her of transphobia.

 

[Tinnitus]

It actually pisses me off that Vivz presented Stolas, in the pilot, as the abusive asshole he actually is, then redeemed him in the Loo Loo Land episode, only to return him back to being an absolutely narcissistic shithead, but somehow, you're supposed to sympathize with him even after that.

There's no way he didn't know Ozzy's is Asmodeus' place.

From revealing it at a private party to further confirming it at a couple's only restaurant.

His lust for an Imp he barely knew cannot be contained.

 

[The Nothingness]

I also wonder if she'll introduce any trannies. She's pandering to LGBTQ+ community pretty hard, but as far as I'm aware she hasn't had any Ts yet. If she doesn't add them soon, her audience will accuse her of transphobia.

Sallie Mae, who will have more appearances, checks that box.

 

[This ruined Sonic]

Sallie Mae, who will have more appearances, checks that box.

Sure, but she's in HB. Tumblr needs another tranny in HH.

 

[Clancee]

Sallie Mae will definitely get more screentime

Anything to sell more merch. The first time SM appeared the character spoke like 3 times and that was enough for twittards to start celebrating when generic T-shirts were made.