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Breadbassket said:
I think it's fair to at least be skeptical of someone who has changed their political affiliation in the last 10 years and also publicly insulted the party or the politicians of the party they are switching to.
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A lot of shit happened in the last 10 years. A lot of shit happened in the last 4.

So I don’t really think it is that fair.
 
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Onion Lover said:
My guess is Vance is Trump's attempt to reconnect with the Midwestern swing state voters. Trump won Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania in 2016 due to his highlighting of shrinking job opportunities in the Rust Belt, and it looks like Vance has some appeal regarding that. The left and MSM will dredge up his comments about Trump from 2016, but they did the same shit to Pence in 2016.
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This will also appeal to independents and remaining fence sitters ... And also the younger demographics.

JD Vance could easily say something to the effect of, "I used to be like you guys, buying into all of the fearmongering about Trump ... And then I learned the truth and saw with my own two eyes how good he was for all Americans. We all need to be united around this man who literally just took a bullet for the country."
 
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HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS said:
Does she even want to become a vice president. It's a lame ass position. Maybe Trump is holding it out for better position to put her in. Again, vice president position is lame as fuck.
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It’s not a lame position with a geriatric president. Yes Trump is still lively right now but in 3 years he will be as old as Biden is today.
 
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WhimsicalTrolli said:
The problem with Republicans is they are all talk, no action and get along to go along. They want to be seen as "taking the higher road" when In reality it makes you look spineless when their voters are losing their jobs, children getting trooned out & their entertainment is pozzed to shit.
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This was from a couple dozen pages back, but the main factor contributing to conservatives being as you accurately describe is a lefty-dominated media that frames any and all Republican efforts to "get tough" as the rise of fascism, repeat it ad nauseum, go totally hair on fire, prompting the donor class to kick in to money overdrive and the dull-as-dishwater, midwit news junkies to believe it all.
 
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Sithis said:
Trump was a Democrat back when Democrats were at least somewhat normal and weren't sterilizing kids and erecting satanic idols in courthouses. I can give that Vance probably grew up a dem or leaning left because of the union politics in the coalfields and rust belt, but there is something very ambitious and opportunistic about him. It doesn't help that he vaguely looks like a chubby Crenshaw without the eye patch.
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People bring up Trump being a Democrat but don't forget he was one of the prominent people that kept bringing Obama's citizenship into question.

There is also the book that says he wanted to run as a Republican in 1988 but chose not to. His attempt with the Reform Party in 2000 can't be forgotten either.
 
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Shalalallah Akbar said:
Would have probably immediately ignited a civil war within the US and with that World War 3 at large as well as literally every single country would take advantage of the US being in utter internal turmoil, but sure.
As for the two candidates, first-past-the-post voting means that a state only ever goes for one party/candidate (except IIRC Nebraska and Maine) so multiple candidates simply serve to split the vote.
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I think it would be more of a class war instead of a civil war. Civil wars generally had different regions pitted against each other, but this war would have different groups in individual cities attacking each other, and the countryside mostly uniting and guarding against the cities
 
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Sithis said:
Trump was a Democrat back when Democrats were at least somewhat normal and weren't sterilizing kids and erecting satanic idols in courthouses. I can give that Vance probably grew up a dem or leaning left because of the union politics in the coalfields and rust belt, but there is something very ambitious and opportunistic about him. It doesn't help that he vaguely looks like a chubby Crenshaw without the eye patch.

This also seems like a shot in the foot in terms of the Senate because that seat will now likely go blue. So Trump has given the Dems at least +1 against him in the senate if he wins.
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I don't quite get how you think the senate seat will likely go blue. Sherrod, the Dem senator from Ohio, is only polling +6 despite being a -long-term- incumbent. So Ohio is hardly easy territory for Democrats to win.
 
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