Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[TheCakeIsALie]

My inability to own my private jet seriously undermine my health and well-being, and is dissonant with my self-identified image of a multi-billionaire. So taxpayers are obliged to subside me $10M.

Content Page of the June 2023 issue of AMA Journal of Ethics "Patient-Centered Transgender Surgical Care". Free article "Should Uterus Transplantation for Transwomen and Transmen Be Subsidized?" by Timothy F. Murphy, PhD and and Kelsey Mumford (a med student). Note the problematic one-word "transwomen" and "transmen".

From the article:

...some clinicians have maintained that there are no absolute barriers in anatomy, hormones, and obstetric considerations that would rule out the possibility of successful [uterus transplant] in transwomen (reference 11)​

Ewwwwwww. How can anyone NOT see all the problems that would happen?

 

[The Taco Santo!]

This was already discussed in this thread. My opinion:

But as a practical matter, talk it over with your next of kin. (In the US) that's who has the ultimate veto on organ harvesting, no matter what you signed or didn't sign in life.

I've donated marrow twice and I donate blood every three months. If a relative needed a kidney, I'd probably do it. I'm on the organ donor list, but hopefully it won't come up. I'm planning on living forever in an android body stolen from MovieBob, just cruisiing around in a spaceship with some robot buds.

 

[Aunt Carol]

I'm planning on living forever in an android body stolen from MovieBob, just cruisiing around in a spaceship with some robot buds.

Well, keep in mind that you won't be able to control when the movies begin or end.

 

[sheepworldvizor]

Gene knowledge kiwis: In your opinion, what’s Brittany Griner got?

 

[The Taco Santo!]

Well, keep in mind that you won't be able to control when the movies begin or end.

Well, I'll already have robots, so no need to use those parts to make my robot friends. An eternity watching Manos, maybe it'll start to make sense.

 

[Peaches Demure]

Oy fellas,, don't you all grow hair inside your phallus from time to time?

Would my dick need to be cut open and lasered or zapped and then stitched back together?

Well... I'd urge you Kiwis to imagine what such a thing might look like, but since we already got photographic evidence, I might as well skip it and just post links to the images instead.

https://www.reddit.com/r/phallo/comments/1e6sn3c/t_creating_hair_in_phallus/

 

[gampboonerisms]

I always tell people who are new to euthanizing and dissecting laboratory animals that one finds out pretty quickly whether he or she will become desensitized or if it's going to be a problem. As a rule of thumb, I think if a person isn't able to compartmentalize within the first month or two, it's probably not going to happen, and that is fine.

On the other hand, people who feel nothing at all when they sacrifice a laboratory rodent shouldn't be doing animal work

Im reminded of the lab work i did in university. Our pigeons got sick randomly. We try/tried to help the bird but it gets a point that its more cruel to watch it waste to death. Worms and other parasites are about as bad as starving or thirsting to death. i dont know if its how i was raised but working animals serve a purpose and if their purpose is food, they serve another day. If their purpose is research and they are dying in front of your eyes, they have no purpose and have could you let that continue from a humane standpoint?

(side note: is there a better term than thirsting to death? English means to keep phrases together. I know i could have said starving to death or dying of dehydration, but there should be a way to say x and y to death.)

Thread tax sort of: all those male birds that hatch eggs without the female, where are they on the tranny spectrum huh huh???>?? Hey troon bras where does men raising young fall in your dumb fucking spectrum?

 

[The Un-Clit]

(side note: is there a better term than thirsting to death? English means to keep phrases together. I know i could have said starving to death or dying of dehydration, but there should be a way to say x and y to death.)

"Dying of thirst" is the usual idiomatic English term for this.

 

[gampboonerisms]

"Dying of thirst" is the usual idiomatic English term for this.

Not going to lie, I feel super redneck and uneducated saying it like that.

nevermind, i had to think about that. Dying of thirst sounds better than thirsting to death. You're right.

 

[booklover]

What makes a surgeon think that cells making a vein for blood to pass through will handle working as an urethra? Do they know pee is not blood? Are they aware urethras have specialized cells? Were those 10 years in med school for nothing?

This is something I sometimes hope they try, because I am sure it will cause long lasting complications at best and death at worst to many of the tims in which they will experiment on. Give those doctors some humility and show them and the tims that they can't play god for once.

Some doctors DO make colons into vaginas (and not necessarily for trans people, either; some women who have had total hysterectomies choose to have this done, attached to the vaginal stump).

 

[klarine]

Some doctors DO make colons into vaginas (and not necessarily for trans people, either; some women who have had total hysterectomies choose to have this done, attached to the vaginal stump).

Id rather be a nullo than have a colon vagina, it stinks like shit

 

[Larry David's Opera Cape]

Some doctors DO make colons into vaginas (and not necessarily for trans people, either; some women who have had total hysterectomies choose to have this done, attached to the vaginal stump).

You're claiming that after a hysterectomy (removal of uterus) women are having colon tissue stapled on where? You don't remove a vagina with a hysterectomy. That would be a vaginectomy, and outside pooners, they are extremely unusual.

I've never heard of this being done much less routinely. Do you have a source?

 

[Brain Power]

You're claiming that after a hysterectomy (removal of uterus) women are having colon tissue stapled on where? You don't remove a vagina with a hysterectomy. That would be a vaginectomy, and outside pooners, they are extremely unusual.

I've never heard of this being done much less routinely. Do you have a source?

That user tends to pull stuff out of their ass, respects (or used to respect) troon pronouns and also said this amhole looked really good. I would take everything they say with a giant grain of salt.

There's a man who works at a gas station near my house who appears to be about 70 years old, and I believe he was not born a man. He seems to be a really nice person, so I'm not going to say anything negative about him. I'm also not going to sperg on the child of an acquaintance who is transitioning from male to female. I've met them, since they started living as a female, and this person LOOKS female. Really.

OTOH, back in the 1990s, there was a person living in my area who called themselves "Jennifer" who dressed as a woman but certainly didn't look like one, and was always suing various public places for not letting them use the women's restroom. I encountered this person once, and knew immediately who it was. I mean, if you want to live as a woman, wouldn't you at least want to LOOK like a woman too?

Regarding post #25,363: That's actually a pretty good looking vaginoplasty. If they all looked like this, this thread would be a lot shorter.

Seen female genitalia? I HAVE female genitalia!

No, it's obviously not something they were born with, but it doesn't have drains and giant festering sores in it. I never said it was a perfect reproduction.

 

[The Gunt Whisperer]

Some doctors DO make colons into vaginas (and not necessarily for trans people, either; some women who have had total hysterectomies choose to have this done, attached to the vaginal stump).

A hysterectomy has no involvement with the vagina.

The vagina terminates at the cervix.

In a partial hysterectomy, the uterus is removed. The vagina and cervix remain intact.

In a total hysterectomy, the uterus and cervix are removed. The surgeon creates a vaginal cuff at the top of the vagina - sewing it closed.

At no point is there a “vaginal stump” or any need to attach a piece of colon to it.

In extremely rare cases of vaginal cancer or melanoma that is so extensive as to require more than just localized treatment, a partial, total or radical vaginectomy may be done. In cases of extensive recurrent gynecological or rectal cancer, a pelvic exenteration may be done.

In these extremely rare instances, a vagina may be reconstructed using other tissues.

 

[Quack_Quack]

A hysterectomy has no involvement with the vagina.

The vagina terminates at the cervix.

In a partial hysterectomy, the uterus is removed. The vagina and cervix remain intact.

In a total hysterectomy, the uterus and cervix are removed. The surgeon creates a vaginal cuff at the top of the vagina - sewing it closed.

At no point is there a “vaginal stump” or any need to attach a piece of colon to it.

In extremely rare cases of vaginal cancer or melanoma that is so extensive as to require more than just localized treatment, a partial, total or radical vaginectomy may be done. In cases of extensive recurrent gynecological or rectal cancer, a pelvic exenteration may be done.

In these extremely rare instances, a vagina may be reconstructed using other tissues.

The only other time you'd need vaginal reconstructive surgery is, possibly, necrosis from failed FGM, or creating a canal in vaginal agenesis. Which is also really rare.

And all of the above would be done by plastics, not by money grubbing surgeons. Because they'd want a more natural look rather than a punched in hole. Similar to mastectomies for/to prevent cancer - plastic surgeons are involved to create a more pleasing to the patient outcome not for monetary gain. Well, not as much

 

[glass_houses]

The only other time you'd need vaginal reconstructive surgery is, possibly, necrosis from failed FGM, or creating a canal in vaginal agenesis. Which is also really rare.

There's things like cancer, and reconstruction after severe trauma (either natural, like a vaginal birth going insanely wrong, or after a violent attack). When you actually sit down and think about situations where reconstruction would be needed, there's... well, there's a lot, tbh.

 

[Quack_Quack]

There's things like cancer, and reconstruction after severe trauma (either natural, like a vaginal birth going insanely wrong, or after a violent attack). When you actually sit down and think about situations where reconstruction would be needed, there's... well, there's a lot, tbh.

Yeah.

But this is all medically necessary, and into a space already prepped for a canal, with the ligament and muscle structures there.

Not some random hole punched and skin lined and.. ugh...

 

[TheCakeIsALie]

Yeah.

But this is all medically necessary, and into a space already prepped for a canal, with the ligament and muscle structures there.

Not some random hole punched and skin lined and.. ugh...

Which is why in this context, neovaginas are an abomination of science. For reconstruction and other, actual health conditions, sure. Having your genitals mutilated in an act of violence, or due to messed up cultural views is pretty awful. You’re going to have to look at it every day while showering, toileting and of course, during intimacy.

But trans men, (with the help of harmful ideology on the surgeons part) willingly do this and convince themselves it’s as good as the real thing, despite lacking everything else that makes a female a female. And despite things like “my clit fell off”, other complications, needing to keep a gaping wound open the rest of their life and so on.

 

[Stan]

I get the fear and embarrassment. I think of all of us, male or female are insecure about certain aspects whether it be looks, intelligence or personality. But bodies are bodies. They aren’t all equal and it’s ok. Nothing to be embarrassed about.

Oddly wholesome content for the SRS thread

You're claiming that after a hysterectomy (removal of uterus) women are having colon tissue stapled on where? You don't remove a vagina with a hysterectomy. That would be a vaginectomy, and outside pooners, they are extremely unusual.

I've never heard of this being done much less routinely. Do you have a source?

This would be more likely to occur if the person has cervical cancer and the vaginal fundus (the deepest part) needs to be removed along with the cervix. That could potentially leave the patient with half a vag or less.
Even in this dire situation I would have to think about whether I wanted a colon vagina or none at all though.

What's the "logic" of doing a phalloplasty this way? What are they trying to achieve here?

They are chasing the dragon of STP gender euphoria. You would think pissing in public urinals is like smoking opium to pooners who routinely talk as nauseam about how great it must be to relieve yourself this way.

 

[Vulvalover1]

Gus has posted on TikTok her personal story of painful cramping with long term testosterone use.. not incredibly interesting but what is wild, curious and horrifying is the comments .. truly shocking the amount of these girls that, after years of use, have no idea what T is doing to their genitals, all are complaining of serious cramping and most are completely ignorant of the atrophy that’s guaranteed.

The dudes in the comments are all discussing how to fix it ; topical estrogen, birth control, hysto etc. always another medication another thing on top .. none of them ever seize upon the more circumspect and obvious answer that this is an ongoing experiment, no-one really has a clue how thoroughly fucked up their system has become and that it is a total and horrendous mess.

https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGenP95vw/

Below a really excellent and enlightening hormone discussion link : Benjamin’s Boyce interview with Dr William Malone :

https://youtu.be/z4RYl75zdMY?si=dZp7l8pq8iw3scoA

Also .. absolutely nothing to do with the above but i cringe at the idea of being FTM and having to tell your dad. Picture a big manly man with a manual labour type job.. If it were me, my dad would have taken the piss so severely that I would have never spoken of it again.

A tout !! VL Xx