Boogie / Boogie2988 / "Francis" / Steven Jason Williams - Fat, Rapidly Declining Divorced "Nice Guy" Middle-Aged Youtuber, Former Edgy Porn Blogger, lied about having cancer and being molested. Cohost of fake drama show "Lolcow Live (LCL)". Just WILL NOT die.

[WaveBreak]

Thats the most frustrating thing - we still never got the truth.

He's dying on the hill that he has cancer - it makes no sense if he did actually have a diagnoses of cancer that all of this would happen, zero sense at all.

The problem we have is no actual doctor has weighed in to say whether what boogie is claiming is true or not and i suggest it isnt. You treat polycythemia vera and secondary polycythemia the same way - but whatever way it shook out he cant have had an official diagnoses of vera without the gene test and he's never had that, so he's still lying now that he has a diagnoses when he cannot have one.

He is effectively being allowed to keep his side of the story while both sides know he's lying. It will wash out im sure and it will be way worse for him after finding out he hasnt just come clean.

You can always tell a whopper is about to come out when he starts the sentence "if im being completely genuine" - if youre being genuine you dont need to qualify youre about to be genuine, you either are or you arent being genuine and its clear he's not about any of this. He's dragged his brother and Dezi into his lies - i honestly felt really bad for Dezi prior to this, when she lied I thought yeah fuck her but after the alcohol story im back to feeling bad for her again, shes the biggest victim in all of this by far.

We always get the truth, the truth is the opposite of what boogie says.
"My mother raped me" = his mother didn't rape him
"I have sex" = he's still a virgin

 

[Procrastinhater]

https://youtu.be/5jgIIDjFVG8?si=8CIgUOZgaTldMpx8

Interesting video about dezi being blackout drunk - this is his friend describing this it does not sound great

Fucking lol this is damage control.
Wings hasnt made a video for four months. They clearly don't want the "Boogie pumped his child bride full of booze and fucked her while she was out cold" narrative getting around.
Muta said Boogie was pumping her full of shots, he has no reason to lie, I trust him more than fucking Wings.
You know Keem has put Wings up to this, he doesn't want the Rapist Boogie story gathering steam, not after everything else.
Boogie has abused every woman he has been with.
He's fucked in the head.

And the dude who said you can't rape in a relationship wtf bro?
Theres a big difference between fucking when your both buzzed and fucking someone who is out cold unconcious, the fuck is wrong with you?

@sure

Hold on, those were separate nights? Didn't Boogie say the HAMS happened in the basement at Keem's, and they were only at his house one night though? Or did he mean somewhere else he was staying?

I'm confused. I think we might have fucked up and the HAMS happened at the AirBNB and not the alcohol poisoning night.. I mean at best he was a shitty "boyfriend" and father figure and left her alone during a potentially life threatening situation, that's bad enough, but if we got off track it's good that nothing happened to her besides that.

They're gaslighting.
Whatever happened at that air BnB Boogie already said he fucked her (HAMS'd her) at Keems party.
They've got together to do damage control to make it sound like it was two different nights.
Nobody was talking about the Air BnB till Wings brought it up to deflect.
This is damage control.

 

[3deadniggers]

They're gaslighting.
Whatever happened at that air BnB Boogie already said he fucked her (HAMS'd her) at Keems party.
They've got together to do damage control to make it sound like it was two different nights.
Nobody was talking about the Air BnB till Wings brought it up to deflect.
This is damage control.

Damage control only makes sense in a world where Keemstar doesn't think he's Vince McMahon and any real life controversy is a good story line for his internet show. Wings has no reason to protect Boogie here but Keem has a reason to muddy the water so next episode he can 'force Boogie back on LCL' to get the 'truth' of the Dezi rape story. Taking anything at face value is stupid when we know Keem's as manipulative as Boogie and Wings is willing to play along to get his pay check. For all we know Dezi went off with keem's other whores and they got her black out drunk and Boogie wasn't aware. It's not unusual for women to gather together at parties and to go off and do their own thing and the men do the same. If Boogie trusted the other women to take care of her and later found out she was black out drunk and did nothing he doesn't care about her. but he left her with others at the party instead of forced her to get that way. Which is pretty common for people at parties and a normal thing to do. But we don't know the full story and jumping to conclusions helps Boogie play the victim and it helps Keem keep manipulating the story.

Did Boogie have sex with Dezi at Keem's house and was she sober or drunk? Boogie could be lying about having sex at all. It's the weird kind of story he likes to lie about. How would a man as fat as him even get on top of a drunk girl or move her in a way he could penetrate her with that gut?
Did Boogie force excessive alcohol on Dezi or is Muta being petty and manipulating the story for personal gain when Boogie and Dezi were playing a drinking game with others at the party or something? Did she say no and Boogie tell her to do it any way or was she doing it on her own terms and not knowing her limits?
Who was Dezi with when she was drinking excessively and who knew when she got into that state?
How long did it take Boogie to find out and what did he do for her?
How long were Wings and Kelly involved and did they inform any one else?
Who else was involved with Dezi when she was black out drunk?
Was it actually black out drunk and alcohol poisoning or is Keem making up stories knowing it's fueling the fire for LCL and drama alert?

Ecelebs and alcohol is a bad mix. Keem's friends with people like Blade and the whores he would invite to his parties are not going to care if a skinny retarded girl gets so drunk she dies. We've seen the type of social circles these youtubers are and how dangerous it is to drink with them. Getting the truth of the story rather than every other post being "I hope boogie dies!" over and over and making wild assumptions doesn't help the situation. Next LCL will have Boogie crying how he's being called a rapist for having sex with his girlfriend at the AirBnB and how his girlfriend almost died the day after because Keem's parties are so wild and crazy. Finding the truth to his lies and spreading it is the only way to counter act Boogie's bullshit and counter Keem's attempt at creating a worked shoot podcast. We know how desperate Boogie is for any kind of money and he would never turn down the sort of money being offered in the podcast, he doesn't have prinicipals and if he had a screencap saying he had vera he would have shown it and continued to say high red blood count is cancer rather than a side effect of hormone therapy and being fat. It doesn't make sense, none of this makes sense when Boogie just ran a crypto scam for 10k and didn't want 60k or whatever the total was at the end. The only hill Boogie will die on is the one made of his own flesh. We know this, so why would he turn down the money if it was real? If you need 10k, you need 60k and you don't have to lose your lie if you show you have a high red blood cell count which you continue to call cancer.

Null is right not to feature this. Anything to do with Boogie has a PR manager in the background and giving Keem enough credit to feature one of his stories is a mistake.

 

[Swole McPole]

So at least it wasn't literal rape?

I really don't care about this 'rape'. If banging your girlfriend when she's drunk is rape, then we're all rapists now.

Personally, I think it'd be far worse to have sex with Boogie when you're sober. Any kind of sex with Boogie should be a jailable offence. At the very least, if you voluntarily consent to sex with the fat man, you should have to undergo a mental health assessment.

 

[wtfNeedSignUp]

Null is right not to feature this. Anything to do with Boogie has a PR manager in the background and giving Keem enough credit to feature one of his stories is a mistake.

While I understand not wanting to give Keem justification to mess with cows, the event was pretty organic overall, and if Keem knew how bad it was gonna get he would have milked it more time.

 

[Marc83]

Source: like really, trust me bro.

 

[Dumbspectator]

I really don't care about this 'rape'. If banging your girlfriend when she's drunk is rape, then we're all rapists now.

Personally, I think it'd be far worse to have sex with Boogie when you're sober. Any kind of sex with Boogie should be a jailable offence. At the very least, if you voluntarily consent to sex with the fat man, you should have to undergo a mental health assessment.

It’s not about her drunk, it’s about her allegedly being completely passed out from drinking. We are not talking about two people banging after coming home shitfaced from a bar, or tipsy post the second bottle of wine after dinner. We are talking about one person being unconscious while the other person is conscious.

If you fuck someone that’s unconscious, no matter why they’re out cold the that’s rape. If someone doesn’t give or isn’t able to give consent then it’s rape relationship or otherwise.

(The only exception I can think of is a consensual-non-consent setup with somnophilia involving sleeping medication where being semiconscious is the whole appeal in a controlled environment.)

 

[Vect]

But we don't know the full story and jumping to conclusions helps Boogie play the victim and it helps Keem keep manipulating the story.

I think it helps to think of Keemstar less as manipulating the narrative and instead purely opportunistic. I don't think he's behind the scenes telling Wings, Tommy or Mutahar to say or do this or that, or planning how any of this drama is going to go, though obviously they all play into it to varying degrees. The podcast itself is the contrivance, the 'drama' isn't.

The simple fact is Boogie is a deeply grotesque and weird man in a deeply messed up and weird 'relationship', and the most charitable version of events we have is that he saw his girlfriend vomiting and black-out drunk and did nothing to help, then lied about having sex with her afterwards. Add Wings saying he heard them have sex and Mutahar saying he was pressuring her to drink more, and we have a whole multiverse of events that are all equally plausible only because Boogie2988 is simply that perverse.

And call me naïve, but I don't see Keemstar being happy to start rumors of overdose and sexual assault at his own party.

(The only exception I can think of is a consensual-non-consent setup with somnophilia involving sleeping medication where being semiconscious is the whole appeal in a controlled environment.)

I'm amazed you had AN exception to think of.

 

[Dumbspectator]

I'm amazed you had AN exception to think of.

I have a fair amount of experience with domming and it’s a semi-rare fantasy for some subs. I don’t have practical experience with this particular setup but I’ve heard it laid out from other couples in the community who have tried it. It’s either a “eh that was neat” one and done type experience or it ends becoming a regular thing because they find out it’s another one of their things.

Personally I think it sounds quite boring versus being with someone present.

 

[3deadniggers]

While I understand not wanting to give Keem justification to mess with cows, the event was pretty organic overall, and if Keem knew how bad it was gonna get he would have milked it more time.

It was so organic it all happened on Keem's podcast where Keem invited Destiny on to lay into Boogie (as is the usual show format) and then had Metokur and some Twitch thot lined up to offer money.. If that's organic I don't know what fake is any more.

It’s not about her drunk, it’s about her allegedly being completely passed out from drinking. We are not talking about two people banging after coming home shitfaced from a bar, or tipsy post the second bottle of wine after dinner. We are talking about one person being unconscious while the other person is conscious.

If you fuck someone that’s unconscious, no matter why they’re out cold the that’s rape. If someone doesn’t give or isn’t able to give consent then it’s rape relationship or otherwise.

(The only exception I can think of is a consensual-non-consent setup with somnophilia involving sleeping medication where being semiconscious is the whole appeal in a controlled environment.)

Boogie was drinking wasn't he? Keemstar was best friends with Onlyusemeblade wasn't he? None of them drink responsibly and shouting rape because 2 people drunk fucked devalues the term which is really important to protect. No harm was done, no one feels like a victim but you want to make a victim because it makes Boogie look worse when he already makes himself look.

And call me naïve, but I don't see Keemstar being happy to start rumors of overdose and sexual assault at his own party.

Sexual assault is debatable but girl who's barely drank before vomiting her guts up is a standard for college parties. Where does her personal responsibility come into this? She should have limited her own drinking and said no if others were forcing her to drink more than she was capable of handling. She is an adult even if she's quite dumb and until we know what she engaged with and who she did it with we don't know the full story. If she went off with the girls and drank too much wine because she kept up with the drunk whores Keem usually associates with you can't blame the fat fuck. These are the people who drank another man to death not too long ago and will without a doubt do the same thing with others in the future.

 

[shoashuffle]

College girls have people their age fucking them, not 500lb manatees pretending to be their surrogate father.

 

[bravosouth]

Sexual assault is debatable but girl who's barely drank before vomiting her guts up is a standard for college parties.

I mean... this wasn't a college party though? The only thing that would even qualify it as one are the age of Keem/Boogie's spouses no? Otherwise it was a family and friends 4th of July, and furthermore an engagement party for Keem and Brantley. Just because we don't see or hear from them doesn't mean that the hosts didn't have a bunch of family there, Boogie even mentions them being present during the vlog.

I still think it was pretty fucked up for Dezi to get as loose as she apparently did, and for Boogie to be so lazy stuck to his chair that he didn't intervene in her going from fine to fucking plastered within an hour. Not to mention how he apparently reacted with less concern for the supposed love of his life vs. two virtual internet strangers. Party fouls for both of them, if you ask me.

 

[sure]

I hate having to go at bat for boogie but I think it's important to get to the bottom of what's actually true. the only clip I could find of boogie mentioning fucking dezi in a basement was around 12:40 of the initial cancer callout livestream.

side note: it's funny to rewatch this part of the show knowing how blissfully unaware boogie is of the events that are about to unfold later in the stream.

they're talking about the trip as a whole, not keem's party specifically. he never explicitly mentions keem's basement nor does he directly imply they had sex on the 4th when she was blackout drunk. if someone has more context behind this claim that he fucked her in keem's basement at the party, either post a clip or a timestamp for someone else to clip.

 

[3deadniggers]

College girls have people their age fucking them, not 500lb manatees pretending to be their surrogate father.

What Boogie is doing is disgusting but you can't make up lies about him because he also lies. It makes it impossible to document his actual crimes if you act like Reddit and start calling every minor thing the worst crime in history. Dezi consents to being in a relationship with him, she is legally able to do so and them having drunken sex isn't a crime. This thread has too many hate posters looking to get justice against Boogie (ex fans?) instead of wanting to get the truth. Boogie will wriggle his way out of everything you try to pin on him any way, he's been doing it for a decade so trying to get justice is rage baiting yourself.

I mean... this wasn't a college party though? The only thing that would even qualify it as one are the age of Keem/Boogie's spouses no? Otherwise it was a family and friends 4th of July, and furthermore an engagement party for Keem and Brantley. Just because we don't see or hear from them doesn't mean that the hosts didn't have a bunch of family there, Boogie even mentions them being present during the vlog.

I still think it was pretty fucked up for Dezi to get as loose as she apparently did, and for Boogie to be so lazy stuck to his chair that he didn't intervene in her going from fine to fucking plastered within an hour. Not to mention how he apparently reacted with less concern for the supposed love of his life vs. two virtual internet strangers. Party fouls for both of them, if you ask me.

It was hosted by Keem star. Lord of the fratboys on youtube. I'm not going to give him enough credit to think he acts like an adult.

Was Boogie with her when she got wasted in an hour? If he wasn't he can't be held responsible. I don't think you can call Wings and Kelly internet strangers. Boogie and Wings have met in person before and have a decent enough history to be trust worthy people in this situation. Boogie should have looked after Dezi but Wings and Kelly aren't like a random person Boogie just met on Discord. There's too much unknowns at this point to say Boogie is responsible for the situation. I want to know why Kelly and Wings brought the car round to rush her to the hospital with Boogie driving then decided not to. What happened with that? Was Boogie too drunk to drive or did they decide she didn't need it? Who was the sober driver at the party in case something happened and they needed someone to drive?

 

[Vect]

... I’ve heard it laid out from other couples in the community who have tried it.

Presumably this wasn't just a massive comedy of errors where one partner couldn't admit to the other that they fell asleep while being fucked?

Where does her personal responsibility come into this? She should have limited her own drinking and said no if others were forcing her to drink more than she was capable of handling.

But isn't that the whole debate around her? The whole reason her relationship with Boogie is weird is because we can't assess her sense of personal responsibility because she's an absolute sped. It's easy for us to say "she should have said no" - but it's never quite that easy, is it? We don't even know what Boogie is like around her behind closed doors, though we get little glimpses of something unpleasant.

It was hosted by Keem star. Lord of the fratboys on youtube. I'm not going to give him enough credit to think he acts like an adult.

Was Boogie with her when she got wasted in an hour? If he wasn't he can't be held responsible. I don't think you can call Wings and Kelly internet strangers. Boogie and Wings have met in person before and have a decent enough history to be trust worthy people in this situation. Boogie should have looked after Dezi but Wings and Kelly aren't like a random person Boogie just met on Discord. There's too much unknowns at this point to say Boogie is responsible for the situation. I want to know why Kelly and Wings brought the car round to rush her to the hospital with Boogie driving then decided not to. What happened with that? Was Boogie too drunk to drive or did they decide she didn't need it? Who was the sober driver at the party in case something happened and they needed someone to drive?

See now you're overthinking this to silly degrees. You don't think Keem is going to act like an adult - but you expect there to be rational justifications for Boogie2988's behavior? The man with a battery of arcade machines and action figures?

We default to assuming Boogie had something to do with it because we have 3 different people (if we discount Boogie himself) give accounts of his behavior at that party relevant to Megamind Girl. We're working off no more than that. This could all be wrong and you could be right about Keem, but inquiring after every variable not accounted for doesn't make any of these accounts less credible, much less point to Keemstar personally contriving this for extra drama.

 

[A Piece of Coal]

So, why are some people thinking that getting Megamind blackout drunk to perform HAMS isn’t rape? Thats fucking retarded.

 

[Annealing Crater]

Don't know what happened between these freaks and when but keep it mind this is not a relationship between a boyfriend and girlfriend. It's just the "girlfriend experience". Dezi2 is a mentally retarded child prostitute that was human trafficked to Boogie who holds all of her documentation and is her only source of income.

 

[Dumbspectator]

Presumably this wasn't just a massive comedy of errors where one partner couldn't admit to the other that they fell asleep while being fucked?

No, no it's like a somewhat well established thing. You get sleeping medication via telling your doc that you need something to overcome some jetlag with work for instance, and then figure it out from there.
The "success" of whether or not people enjoy it usually comes down to how the submissive part responds. That is to say the ones who hit a real sweet spot where they are semi-conscious and dreaming not unlike a sort of semi-lucid dream state have a really good time because they slip in and out between sex and a wet dream if that makes sense? The ones who usually don't like are the ones who either go completely out or just aren't able to get a lot of nice sensations from it.

Again it's not really my particular brew, but you know you talk with people at various events and exchange experiences and so forth. People are into a lot of very specific things.

 

[3deadniggers]

But isn't that the whole debate around her? The whole reason her relationship with Boogie is weird is because we can't assess her sense of personal responsibility because she's an absolute sped. It's easy for us to say "she should have said no" - but it's never quite that easy, is it? We don't even know what Boogie is like around her behind closed doors, though we get little glimpses of something unpleasant.

She's clearly not mentally well and Boogie isn't good for her but where is the line drawn here? If lolcows like CobraJFS are able to live on their own and make their own decisions what makes Dezi different? She shouldn't be any where near him but she is making the decision to do so. If she was an actual mental child her parents should be able to get her home by force. She's weird, has something very wrong with her but so do so many people in the world.

We default to assuming Boogie had something to do with it because we have 3 different people (if we discount Boogie himself) give accounts of his behavior at that party relevant to Megamind Girl. We're working off no more than that. This could all be wrong and you could be right about Keem, but inquiring after every variable not accounted for doesn't make any of these accounts less credible, much less point to Keemstar personally contriving this for extra drama.

We agree the events happened right? But where timeline is important. If Boogie fucked a Dezi 2 drinks in or if he fucked her when she was near dead after Wings took care of her is really important. One is two people sneaking off for some sex in a friend's basement and the other is fucking someone after they nearly died an hour before. If Boogie was playing drinking games and encouraging Dezi to do another shot it's different from him pushing drink after drink into her hand. All of the witnesses have skin in the game and even the ones who hate Boogie make profit off of him. The boy who cried wolf is an important fable about the truth mattering and that's what keeps coming to mind with this thread and the events here. Boogie is a creepy manipulator but his trolls are over reacting and assuming the worse than saying it's the truth before we know the truth. We know Wings heard them having sex, but we don't know when that was in the context of being drunk. We don't know why the decision was made not to take her to the hospital. These are actually important to understanding the story. Shouting "Boogie forced Dezi to drink until she nearly died then fucked her and left her for dead" is a fucking vile thing to do and it's a vile thing to say is true until we know it is true. If they fucked the day before all the rape claims are wrong and that's a big part of this story we haven't confirmed yet.

It's frustrating when people are so desperate to get revenge on lolcows they're willing to lie as much as Boogie does. The truth is damning enough with him.

 

[porkypork99]

daily reminder that boogie is likely (90% sure) paying dezi 4-5k a month to play pretend gf.
daily reminder that its more likely than not that he met her on a sb website.

dezi isnt autistic.she is pretending to be because boogie asked her to, playing /authistic /naive/ retarded gf that loves boogie is better than 21 year old prostitute dating him.

boogie has lied many times in the past about girls he said he met at the game store or w/e that ended up being sugar babies..this one is no different.