Russian Special Military Operation in the Ukraine - Mark IV: The Partitioning of Discussion

[Sexual Chocolate]

He should strike back at our enemy, ie the USA. Red lines only matter if there are consequences for crossing them, and the situation right now is beyond outrageous. Nuke some yank town or something, idgaf, just do something.

You need Jesus.

 

[AncientPhosphur]

And do tell what should the response be. Should Putin order saturation bombing of Kiev, killing thousands if not tens of thousands of civilians? Should he order out the chemical weapons Russia has in storage and gas the Ukrainian army in mass? Should Putin order the mass mobilization of Russia's young men and women; and throw them at the invaders in suicidal human wave assaults. till every last ukrianian soldier is off Russian soil? Should he do all three? Do tell what is to be done.

Yes absolutely. It’s a NATO mercenary army of women and trannies. All will come crashing down under the might of Putin and Russia. And then why stop there? March Russia and its battle hardened and experienced soldiers all the way to Paris so their women can experience real men not sissy faggots. It would take days as nations tremble under the power of Russia. War would be over in 2 weeks because NATO dumped everything in Ukraine and is losing badly.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

You need Jesus.
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She's kosher so...yeah.

Yes absolutely. It’s a NATO mercenary army of women and trannies. All will come crashing down under the might of Putin and Russia. And then why stop there? March Russia and its battle hardened and experienced soldiers all the way to Paris so their women can experience real men not sissy faggots. It would take days as nations tremble under the power of Russia. War would be over in 2 weeks because NATO dumped everything in Ukraine and is losing badly.

You know, I don't think they could whip up the masses into a frenzy for another world war; I mean, what do we have left that's worth fighting for? We can't afford to buy homes when we make six figures, hell we can't make six figures because that's reserved for migrants, they take your kids away if you refuse to let them get their peens or boobs whacked off so...yeah, again.

 

[Susanna]

I wasn't saying "nuke the yanks now", I just want some sort of proportionate response finally. Shoot down some yank drones or shoot down the C17s airlifting equipment to the Ukrainians even if they're in Polish airspace at the time or just do something!

She's kosher so...yeah.

I eat shellfish.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

I eat shellfish.

So? That only proves you eat treyf.

 

[Susanna]

So? That only proves you eat treyf.

Just so, I don't keep kosher.

 

[3-2-1836]

And do tell what should the response be. Should Putin order saturation bombing of Kiev, killing thousands if not tens of thousands of civilians? Should he order out the chemical weapons Russia has in storage and gas the Ukrainian army in mass? Should Putin order the mass mobilization of Russia's young men and women; and throw them at the invaders in suicidal human wave assaults. till every last ukrianian soldier is off Russian soil? Should he do all three? Do tell what is to be done.

Personally I feel Kiev should've been saturation bombed 2 years ago since the west already blew their load with sanctions and accused Russia of genocide in Bucha, what is there to lose? Everyone was already expecting Russia to Grozny Kiev anyway.

Instead Russia is playing WW1 trench warfare in eastern Ukraine, has there been any meaningful movement on the front since Bakhmut got Grozny'd beyond the current scenario of Russia officially getting invaded for the first time since 1945?

 

[Justsomecicada]

I wasn't saying "nuke the yanks now", I just want some sort of proportionate response finally. Shoot down some yank drones or shoot down the C17s airlifting equipment to the Ukrainians even if they're in Polish airspace at the time or just do something!

I eat shellfish.

Why didnt you start with that then, that’s much more reasonable then “nuke some yank town”

 

[Susanna]

Why didnt you start with that then, that’s much more reasonable then “nuke some yank town”

I didn't expect it to read so aggressive, I thought the idgaf was enough to make that clear.

 

[Wherethereisawhip]

Instead Russia is playing WW1 trench warfare in eastern Ukraine, has there been any meaningful movement on the front since Bakhmut got Grozny'd beyond the current scenario of Russia officially getting invaded for the first time since 1945?

Yes, ever since they've taken Advika they have been pushing hard in that area of the front. They're basically almost ready to take New Pork and Toresk on one end, and threaten the central road hub conneting the north and south of Dontesk in the other direction.

 

[World Famous Quasi Payer]

He should strike back at our enemy, ie the USA. Red lines only matter if there are consequences for crossing them, and the situation right now is beyond outrageous. Nuke some yank town or something, idgaf, just do something.

I wasn't saying "nuke the yanks now", I just want some sort of proportionate response finally. Shoot down some yank drones or shoot down the C17s airlifting equipment to the Ukrainians even if they're in Polish airspace at the time or just do something!

How about we not start world war three, or at least justify direct NATO involvement in the war?

Personally I feel Kiev should've been saturation bombed 2 years ago since the west already blew their load with sanctions and accused Russia of genocide in Bucha, what is there to lose? Everyone was already expecting Russia to Grozny Kiev anyway.

The lives of thousands of civilians who don't deserve to die because of the orders of the US pentagon. This war is about exterminating white eastern Europeans, be they Russian or Ukrainian, to make way for globohomo niggers.

Instead Russia is playing WW1 trench warfare in eastern Ukraine, has there been any meaningful movement on the front since Bakhmut got Grozny'd beyond the current scenario of Russia officially getting invaded for the first time since 1945?

Except for all the land they've captured since then.

 

[3-2-1836]

They're basically almost ready to take New Pork and Toresk on one end

Wait are you seriously telling me in the fifteen fucking months since they took Bakhmut they still don't even control the rest of the raion?

Toresk is exactly 25 kilometers from Bakhmut and Avdivka over open farm fields.

So you have effectively confirmed the Russian army hasn't accomplished anything meaningful in a year, good job.

 

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[SaidNoOneEver]

So you have effectively confirmed the Russian army hasn't accomplished anything meaningful in a year, good job.

Besides eliminating another quarter-million Ukrainian troops and $100 billion in equipment?

"Russia is humiliating me too slowly!"

 

[Wherethereisawhip]

Wait are you seriously telling me in the fifteen fucking months since they took Bakhmut they still don't even control the rest of the raion?

Toresk is exactly 25 kilometers from Bakhmut and Avdivka over open farm fields.

So you have effectively confirmed the Russian army hasn't accomplished anything meaningful in a year, good job.

What are you talking about? There's not only a rather large natural border in the Bakhmut-Toresk direction with the canal, but there's another fortress in Chasiv-Yar situated close to the main road. It's hardly open fields like you want to claim.

And before you say something like it'd be easy, Russia has threatened Toresk by breaking through the 2014 defense line. One of the places Ukraine has had the most time to fortify.

 

[Soyjack Pinhead]

What are you talking about? There's not only a rather large natural border in the Bakhmut-Toresk direction with the canal, but there's another fortress in Chasiv-Yar situated close to the main road. It's hardly open fields like you want to claim.

And before you say something like it'd be easy, Russia has threatened Toresk by breaking through the 2014 defense line. One of the places Ukraine has had the most time to fortify.

Precisely. The fact that they've been losing the 2014 line tells you all you need to know about the state of this conflict, and the viability of the Kursk offensive.

 

[Justsomecicada]

Besides eliminating another quarter-million Ukrainian troops and $100 billion in equipment?

"Russia is humiliating me too slowly!"

Paradox games and their consequences……..

 

[Betonhaus]

It isn't a nothing burger, if Ukraine was a candle it would be doing this:
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The Kursk offensive is expending large numbers of Ukrainian soldiers and equipment, which they pulled off their collapsing front lines in Donbass to do a Naruto Run into Russia.
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The men and vehicles destroyed in this offensive won't be available to Ukraine for defense of the Motherland, so what they're achieving in Kursk is to attrit Ukraine's ability to resist Russia. This means the end will come sooner rather than later.

If Ukraine was winning in Kursk there would be no need to bomb the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant. That's another desperation move that speaks to Ukrainian frustration that they're losing this war in every direction. Maybe they hoped to capture the Kursk nuclear plant, but it looks like they're being killed tens of miles away from that objective.

Re: embarrassing Putin. I'm not Russian, so I don't give a fuck. But wars aren't won based on who has the reddest face, they're won by the side that has more men and weapons. Unfortunately for Ukraine, that's Russia, which is why Ukraine's entire strategy so far is based on:

What are the chances that Russia took a calculated risk, and deliberately evacuated civilians and removed their presence in that area to make it attractive for Ukraine to attack? Then part of the Ukraine army is contained there and the other areas have been weakened enough that the Russian army can easily push forward?

 

[capitalBBustard]

What are the chances that Russia took a calculated risk, and deliberately evacuated civilians and removed their presence in that area to make it attractive for Ukraine to attack?

None.

 

[AnotherOne]

What are the chances that Russia took a calculated risk, and deliberately evacuated civilians and removed their presence in that area to make it attractive for Ukraine to attack? Then part of the Ukraine army is contained there and the other areas have been weakened enough that the Russian army can easily push forward?

Unlikely. That's the kind of strategy that might work brilliantly in theory but would be completely unpalatable in reality. Kursk region is mostly wide open fields meaning that 'containment' is a lot harder than it would have been at the border, which is why there have been so many videos of Russian pows. On the bright side it also makes it easier to pick off attackers, which is why there have been a lot more videos of Ukrainian kit getting blasted as well.