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Rand watched more Shondo
This clip is so frustrating because every single claim he makes can be debunked with very little effort, but he probably knows this and is just unwilling to say the truth directly: He wants to fuck the anime girls with child avatars and voices.

He says lolicon vtuber enjoyers like him get a lot of shit but the REAL predators are people like Mr Beast! Rand, Mr Beast condoned Chris's lolicon art.

He says vtubers never get accused of being predators??? WHAT? Flamenco, Kiki, RevSays Desu, Nux Taku...honestly the list of None Offenders ™️ is shorter.

Why does he say that the voice is similar to babies or puppies to our brain? Does he mean he wants to fuck babies or puppies too? In my mind those things are "cute" and real. Vtubers are not either of those, it's bait for the sexually frustrated.

Also, lmao at "she's actually kind of funny". No sir, you don't think women are funny, you're just horny for the anime.

TRD
 
Providing some miscellaneous info on fallenshadow / Shondo:

"Not a sexual channel."


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She used to do [A] ASMR audios before becoming a VTuber:
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A look through some of her old videos shows that she's been farming the loli pedobait niche from as early as 2017:
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Clip from a now deleted video (earrape warning):


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A drawing she posted:

And her response [A] when she was criticized:
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She used to have an NSFW tag:
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She approves of others drawing explicit art of her loli character, which she views and saves:
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IRL


Her first name is Eleanor (or Ellie):


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According to a Patreon post [A], she dropped out of school at age 12, has never had any friends, and avoids all social interaction. She's also a diagnosed schizo:
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Her dad got fucked by COVID:
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It doesn't have her face but I did find a deleted IRL video:

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KF Account?


On an archive [A] of one of her old videos, I noticed a link in the description to a Fandom Wiki:
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fallenshadow has a page [A] on this Wiki. One of the aliases on the page is "Ellie the Lemon":
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This corresponds to an active Gmail address: elliethelemon@gmail.com. The profile picture is a match:
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The Gravatar account [A] for the email also seems to line up:
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For context, the character in the PFP is the same character from her old YouTube:
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The interesting part is that this email appears in the old KF breach list from 2019:

Is fallenshadow secretly a member of the infamous Kiwi Farms? :stress:


Links + Socials


Playlist of deleted videos [PreserveTube] [Archive.org]
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Bonus Clip :gay:




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The entire plot of dokuro chan is lolicon fanservice, you were probably a baby when it was out so i dont blame you for not knowing that little fact or are you going to argue that is because she has tits?
He's "critically" consuming what he believes to be as repulsive as Daisy's Destruction.
(1:00 is the timestamp you want.)
Also, I had to see this and so now you all have to suffer:
I was filtered from watching Shondo because I find the squeaky ass voice obnoxious and fake (Well, pair that and not wanting to touch Twitch with a ten fucking foot pole), but this is such a vast improvement and sounds way more natural. Now only if the rest of her content was like that.
It would be pretty hilarious since you'd be siding with an actual child-support avoiding wife beater all because of your 8chan modding "ptsd".
So like his ramblings about Stellar Blade on Twitter. lol.
Except it has merit since it consistently happens:

https://archive.fo/Ia5ZH
The end-game of political discourse is for marxists and right-wingers to call each other pedophiles since every other insult has become completely powerless. I guess in the case of Kiki or Chris Tyson, that's a fine assumption to make, but I've been seeing this discourse co-opted by fringe political ideologues for a while, and it's so blatantly astroturfed if you look at the botted likes on Xitter.

Sure, some portion of the people arguing against sodomy may or may not secretly be in favor of sodomy, fine. But there's literally only one type of person arguing in favor of sodomy, and there's only one type of person who enjoys fictionalized depictions of children being molested. There may be false negatives, but there are no false positives.
I think that what he's saying is the terminally online (or rather radically charged) xitter individuals that put way too much time and emotional investment into it. Hell I believe that MamaMax was grifting to his audience about hentai while literally having reacting to that shit as the only content he put out in a while before he decided to shift to his current grift.

It's one thing to simply say that it's gross and move on with your life, but it's eccentric to then go full KONY 2012 slacktivist over it when there's far more extreme and damning examples of terrible abuse going on online. Yeah sure, PewDiePie said nigger once, but we have people like Mr Beast literally having an empire of all sorts of exploitation. And the "people can focus on more than one issue at once" thing is an immediate self report considering how most of these same people, all they talk about is anti-AI activism, the current hot discourse to throw their opinion into the algorithm void over, and acting like Deus Vult larping school shooters parroting marxist or right-wing dogma while pretending that they're normal beings. And there's cases of people on different sites sending gore or illegal child abuse material to other people to try and implicate or traumatize them, at what point do you have to wonder if you're worse than the people you're trying to own?

I'm pretty sure anyone normal who doesn't spend their lifetime on the internet would be grossed out if you showed them your fetish wank material in a public space. That's just manners I guess. Unless you're absolutely prompted to, keep that shit to yourself and don't make it your only personality trait.

And cuties was commentary on underage girls being sexualised right?
From a director who made the conscious decision to have it filmed with actual minors, with very compromising shots and other antics.

Dragon Ball depicts Roshi as a flawed character. Cuties is just peak ludonarrative dissonance that makes Naughty Dog games blush. Something like Cuties would probably make more sense as a book that's only in text than it does with a movie adaptation, and you could say the same about Nabokov's books (Which have terrible adaptations from what I can gather).

And of course Cuties is from the French, that and Totally Spies (Just as strange with the exposing fetish shit to kids) is way more egregious than anything anime has to offer at this point if I'm being honest.

the other thing is to study what pippa talked about. it wont work since it doesnt work for drug addicts, but its an honest inquiry to the pedophile problem.
I think this argument is a bit strange considering it somewhat echos what the debate bro streamer Destiny was trying to claim years ago. The reason CSAM is unethical (Yes, that includes an AI that uses that as samples) is because it's child abuse and funds a market that incentivizes unethical things like human trafficking, rape, and sometimes murder (Not to mention the actual physical trauma that can cause). Actual rape videos IIRC are also illegal (or at least very scrutinized) for similar reasons.

You can't ask a child abuse or rape victim for approval of giving videos of their trauma to people who would've likely done the same to them, not just because of the trauma that caused, but also because that's just a really fucked up thing to ask. Trauma also does really fucked up things to your psyche.

I just don't see there being a valid argument there.

Video itself is twitter/redditor propaganda and comments are apparently moderated so anything that isn't like "WOAAAH SEE NOW JAPAN SO BAD AAAOUGH!" gets eventually removed. it keeps showing up in my recommended and genuinely hate it. You try pulling shit like this with any country like Mexico claiming all their media is state propaganda see what happens.
In other news, I guess we know why SEGA renamed the Yakuza series to Like a Dragon here in the states. It's not because of accuracy (Because it's proven they don't give a fuck about that), it's because they're also in bed with the second coming of Blackrock (Japan edition). So I guess there's a silver lining to this.

It's kind of similar to how those games have featured less and less crime drama and more wacky hijinx as that's what the brainlet twitter westerners like about the game's side content. The Amazon show is being ran by people that admitted that they got told by the developers to not play the games.

Yes it's her responsibility not to cultivate a audience of pedophiles, yes. And it's objective. Her avatar is a child by any definition. No hips, tits, childish clothes, childish hair, skinny legs, short, she's a kid bro, I'm not going to explain this further:
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That's a child
Judging by the vomit drawer thing, and how her fingers and toes look elongated like fucking slenderman or something, I'm willing to bet that she's bulimic and has an eating disorder. So the hips and leg thing immediately goes out the window.

Also looking at her head to body ratio, there's about six heads worth. That would make her a young adult in terms of proportions.

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Some retarded niggerfags on here would call a character like Kafka from Honkai Star Rail "pedobait" according to this logic.

Its even more hilarious when you realize the other guy who is arguing is a Fate/Night series fan. Cant make this shit up lol.
Yeah you should see their sperging in the Rev Says Desu thread and getting basic shit wrong. What zero media literacy (for real, not the meme where xittards get offended at something) does to a shonenigger.
The difference in rape rates is explained by the UK having a large Muslim population where child grooming/rape is commonplace, while Japan doesn't.
We're talking about the same UK that refused to do anything about a muslim child trafficking ring, because they didn't want to appear racist, right? At that point, as a country, you may as well quit the virtue signaling.
the fact that she's worked on massively popular kid's movies is fucked.
Yeah, if you're working on a kid's movie or TV show, you probably should have a thorough background check done.
About troon VTubers there's one that's not very famous but very prolific, YukkoEX. This is the kind of content to expect:
I saw this shit in my recommended feed and immediately pressed "Do not recommend channel". It looks like troon debatebro slop.
 
Rand watched more Shondo on his stream last night, and attempted to explain to a skeptical friend why the creepy baby voice is actually fine and normal.
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"It tickles your lizard brain." Ok.
>here's the funny thing right the actual child molesters are the people like mr beast

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What did he mean by this?
 
Suddenly started getting notificatons for this thread again today, noticed it's still active despite the slapfighting and weird slapfight derailment shit from this thread last month leaking into the rest of the site on occasion. Every time I see a 2024 poster randomly making a post seething about Vtubers in another thread that has fuck all to do with vtubers unprovoked in a way that makes no fucking sense, I just assume it's some retardation from back in July still lingering. [EDIT: IT WAS BOTH JUNE AND JULY] Been skimming the stuff I missed.

Some Vtuber named Feisty tried to off herself, maybe?
Was gonna say "why the fuck is this in here" and I'm still confused a little because this person doesn't seem involved in the initial shitshow this thread covered but it's so fucking side tangent laden at this point it kinda makes sense it'd be here since it's a vtuber. The ethottery reveal was a genuinely funny, sad, and disgusting followup info drop. Usually those types don't use vtuber avatars, so I'm guessing this is someone who did vtubing sliding into the thottery? Yeah no wonder they want to kill themselves.


Beast's done enough actual things wrong that people shouldn't have to just straight up make insane fucking claims like this. Last few years since corona I've seen people not even responsible for anything like mr. beast is get framed as supporting foul shit for merely looking at it when it's pasted in weird places like this image. There's shady ass shit going on with mr. Beast for sure, but this fucking post is absolute dogshit twitter/reddit mob shit.
"He looked at the fucking weird gross and out of place art his friend put in the room's wall! THEREFORE HE CONDONES IT!" Yeah ok so if I put a pic of Chinese internment camps and gitmo in the middle of a peaceful public space if someone looks at that shit confused they 100% support it and I now have an excuse to try to ruin their life and constantly fear monger about them on social media like a little bitch. Hate this fucking shit man.

It's kind of similar to how those games have featured less and less crime drama and more wacky hijinx as that's what the brainlet twitter westerners like about the game's side content. The Amazon show is being ran by people that admitted that they got told by the developers to not play the games.
That happened well before "twitter brainlet westerners" latched onto the series, actually.
The yakuza movie from the 2000s that's a loose adaptation of the first game had some issues but it's going to be infinitely better than this new one.
I'd say this is pretty true to the goofy shit interlaced with serious shit aspect that Yakuza's known for.
EDIT: I just realized you were probably talking about how 7 and 8 were more wacky. I agree they are, but I think that's tied more to the protag being a loser obsessed with dragon quest than the western guys.
 
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Nyana Banyana

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Nyana Nanyana is another associate of Kiki's: she's a Puerto Rican vtuber with a loli vtuber character and has collabed with Kiki more than a few times.
According to her lore, she is a loli parady of e-thots. Disgusting I know.


I've heard that she's been face doxxed, but I can't find it. Let alone, I don't know of any doxxes on her.

YouTube:https://www.youtube.com/@NyanaBanyana
A blonde Puerto Rican into children? The anime prophecy has come true.

𝔾 𝔸 𝕋 𝕆 ℝ 𝕋 𝕀 𝕄 𝔼
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This clip is so frustrating because every single claim he makes can be debunked with very little effort, but he probably knows this and is just unwilling to say the truth directly: He wants to fuck the anime girls with child avatars and voices.

He says lolicon vtuber enjoyers like him get a lot of shit but the REAL predators are people like Mr Beast! Rand, Mr Beast condoned Chris's lolicon art.

He says vtubers never get accused of being predators??? WHAT? Flamenco, Kiki, RevSays Desu, Nux Taku...honestly the list of None Offenders ™️ is shorter.

Why does he say that the voice is similar to babies or puppies to our brain? Does he mean he wants to fuck babies or puppies too? In my mind those things are "cute" and real. Vtubers are not either of those, it's bait for the sexually frustrated.

Also, lmao at "she's actually kind of funny". No sir, you don't think women are funny, you're just horny for the anime.

TRD
Theres nothing cute about that fucking creatures toddler pedobait voice changer.
It makes me want to fucking stamp on her head.
The only thing lizard brain it's triggering is the urge to stamp on bugs.
 
Kotoku Koinuko

Kotoku Koinuko, is another vtuber associated with Kiki Pyon Pyon. She's a "loli lewdtuber", which makes her as much of a degenerate pedo as Kiki Pyon Pyon. With the only difference being that, she hasn't actually done insane shit like Kiki, as far as I know.
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She has also collabed with HexaVT

She has NSFW fan art of her character too.

I haven't found anything on her pre-vtuber past, something like actual pedo shit that Kiki engages in or lolcow behavior. I wouldn't be surprised that there's a lot of skeletons in her closet, that have yet to be found. Compared to Kiki, she's a very small vtuber. I also don't know of any doxxes on her sadly.

She has recently retired from vtubing, although she may still be active on social media.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@KotokuKoinuko

She 'graduated' to join a corporate vtuber company. She also left clues so her fans could follow her.


Here's some other vtubers associated with Kiki Pyon Pyon:

  • Nyana Banyana‬ - a Puerto Rican vtuber who has a loli vtuber design. I believe her face has been shown/doxxed recently.
  • Sawa Grape Sawa - another Puerto Rican vtuber with loli vtuber. She also defends lolicon with that infamous "if you don't like lolis" clip that her brown fever simps repost on twitter.
  • HexaVT - known vtuber lolcow and lolicon apologist. (Sharty archive)
  • Raimi Ricotta - a loli vtuber from the pedophilic rabbit's agency (FlaVR) that should've stayed as a joke.
  • Maika Mallow - another Puerto Rican degenerate.
  • CharlottexBear - another associate of Kiki's. With some lolcow tendencies.
  • Kotoku Koinuko - a loli lewdtuber 💀.
There are other vtuber who have collab/associated with Kiki. The ones listed above are those who've collabed with Kiki at least more than once or in other words, repeat guests.

Raimi Ricotta - Sawa Grape Sawa - Nyana Banyana are all apart of pippa's fake corporation, "flavr", and all know eachother from the same discord.
A discord that they so kindly link in their video descriptions: https://discord.gg/U6Du4Yc57r
The vt thread is a goldmine of information, by the way.
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We have not been able to confirm whether or not they are dating, but raimi has a strong connection to this guy who uses a loli "doctor" model:
They both have terrible opsec and know eachother IRL, as evidenced by videos on his channel that show them attending offkai together, in the flesh. They rented an air bnb together to make that possible, which makes us believe that they are dating.

Sawa Grape has better opsec and uses a group of diehard simps to insulate her and her discord. There is a weakness in that insulation though, a schizo by the name of @Real_Spinozilla; the guy who wrote an emailed apology to Kirsche after she banned him for being too schizophrenic. Apparently, after being banned from Kirsche's community he found refuge in sawa's, where her mods tried grooming him to be a lolcow all while feeding his blunders to Kirsche's mod team, which resulted in him going nuclear.

Unfortunately, that's as far as we got. There is a lot of petty drama to wade through, and we're missing context for most of it. Someone else might be able to get further, but we're weary about joining any discords. Either way, the fanbase for these 3 is fairly toxic so we're sure they'll come fill in the blanks eventually.
 

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I don't know if they're still together, but she went there with her boyfriend, a vtuber named Prince Reinhardt, who was mostly just known for being a troll on /vt/.
Immensely late reply but I'm still surprised that this occasionally still pops up as a factoid. The relationship bit's not actually the case, but it's funny seeing it show up to this day ngl.
 
Immensely late reply but I'm still surprised that this occasionally still pops up as a factoid. The relationship bit's not actually the case, but it's funny seeing it show up to this day ngl.
She flew out to stay at his house and they did a marathon stream from the same room where they talked about farting in bed. Vtubers could explicitly state on stream that they're fucking and the viewers would still find a way to cope around it. Incredible.
 
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She flew out to stay at his house and they did a marathon stream from the same room where they talked about farting in bed. Vtubers could explicitly state on stream that they're fucking and the viewers would still find a way to cope around it. Incredible.
If you read a bit earlier, you'd see I'm literally the insider that was quoted beforehand.
 
hold on hold on i have a meme for this

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Okay, I know this is fucking gay especially since this was posted like months ago at this point but it fucking annoys me every time I see this shit brought up so I'm gonna say it.
There's one very important tidbit these retards always seem to either ignore or more likely intentionally leave out when making bullshit like this and it's how the Japanese justice system works.
That 99% conviction rate is literally only because they only prosecute crimes that they can 100% prove happened. So unless you have all of the evidence to convict someone on hand the police just won't give a shit or even care to investigate because they're just not paid enough to.
You can do the research yourself, but you're free to not believe me for not caring enough to cite sources for this.
My point is, with that in mind you have to sit there and question just how many cases flat out go unreported because the japanese police just don't give a shit unless you can prove the crime right then and there. So there's a decent chance the amount of rapes that take places is probably way higher than reported, it's just the police don't give a fuck unless you can prove it and sex crimes are already notoriously hard to prove even here in the states. So unless you got that shit on video tape or something they got away with it.
 
He also goes by Pixie and shares Flam's enjoyment of prolapsed anuses.
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"Why do you have minors in your discord?"
Rev's wife's server used to be 16+ only up until very recently. So much for these people being against minors on the internet.

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I always felt conflicted on whether or not she's a troll because of her fake voices and self diagnosed schizophrenia. She has old ASMR videos where she puts on the dommy GF voice that she says "hurts" to do. She quit a seemingly more appealing grift to grift to pedofaggots on Twitch. What a spontaneous use of her ((((talent)))).

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I thought I remember her saying somewhere that she only likes SFW loli or just generally doesn't like looking at hentai. My retard brain is teetering on if she's: bullshitting, or: placating to a particular audience.
She also called (her friend) Lemonleaf (Fauna) a newfag on a stream after her joining Hololive and graduating without notice.src
 
Rev's wife's server used to be 16+ only up until very recently.
This is why [A] she made it 18+ btw; 2 adults got caught "doing nsfw things" with a minor:
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The age limit used to be lower. It was increased to 16 in 2021 because there were "issues with minors and adults having weird conversations":
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I thought I remember her saying somewhere that she only likes SFW loli or just generally doesn't like looking at hentai.
She did say in a (now deleted) Q&A video that she has no interest in doing erotic ASMR:


And that she doesn't watch hentai:


This was 6 years ago though and I doubt she would say the same thing now.
 
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