@california-newt
Gods and religion have been invented by people since forever.
Asserting your own worldview and interpretation of history isn't an argument. It's what's in question.
Even IF you manage to somehow use some logic fuckery to require a god for everything to exist, you still have no way of showing it's YOUR god
I do. This isn't the venue for it, but you might've tried asking. It's the transcendental argument combined with specific features of my religion's theology, namely the essence-energies distinction. You can read the attached pdf if you want and then go and look up the essence-energies distinction, but this isn't the thread to get into that.
Evolution is the only thing that explains Earth's biodiversity. We're not doing this. You need an education, not a debate.
You must have a very limited imagination. There are plenty of alternative explanations even outside of my own cluster of religions. There are people who see natural biodiversity as a fractal-esque emanated expression of the human subconscious, for example (if they come from some kind of occult or Idealist background). There's no reason why my own position would have a problem with biodiversity, either.
CS Lewis is talking out of his ass. Consciousness is on a spectrum. Other mammals are able of some emotions and thoughts that humans are capable of. Experimentally proven. And even birds can be quite smart though their front brains work differently. We just have more brain per pound of body to command. And all of this only because humans fell into an ecological niche that favored our pattern-recognition meat computers inside our skulls to become so advanced that we can even consider our own existence. Well, I can. You did and came to the completely wrong conclusion.
You didn't respond to his argument at all, which shows me that you didn't understand it. Animals have nothing to do with the argument; it's not "man vs. animals". You're nowhere close to understanding what he's saying there.
The argument is that if the mind is a naturalistic product of chance, then there's no reason to assume that our perceptions (or reasonings) map onto any kind of real world truth or logic. For all we know they could map onto an evolutionary advantageous illusion and fake-logic that only exists in our heads. This would make argumentation impossible, including the argument that there is no God. The same problem would obviously also apply to animals.
Human intellect is a lucky accident, not a divine miracle. Nobody fucking put us here. And smooth brains like you who spew false crap need wrangling cause you're a danger for the advancement of our species.
Dunning-kruger
