The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

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prollyanotherlurker said:

Ah, that clip of Terry in this. Finally explains why I like the command line. It's just because I'm a white man, not a nigger.

He truly was a visionary, and is missed.
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About IME, it's kinda bullshit. You don't need trannyboot to disable it. It can be done with Coreboot and MEcleaner. It will lobotomize it, clearing ROM required to boot it. Not sure up to which Intel generation exactly, since I got rid of my old Thinkpad and I don't fuck around with Coreboot anymore.
It was cool to have Grub embedded in BIOS chip, pretty much instant boot from a hardcoded partition. You can even hide your encryption stuff inside coreboot, and have true full disk encryption, though I couldn't be bothered.
 
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In some new "groundbreaking" linux news, gnome has finally admitted to having financial troubles (yes, again.) Of course, we knew this a few months ago, with the kde twink dev commenting on it as well as the australian, of course being retarded, they have no clue how companies work and think a non profit means the company needs to make no profit. Coincidentally, the supposed jewish nazi was right on the money. The fact they can't just look up that a non profit only means the companies goal is to not enrich the pockets of its owners and investors, and that employees and business expenses still have to be paid is beyond me.
 
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Rust Troony said:
In some new "groundbreaking" linux news, gnome has finally admitted to having financial troubles (yes, again.) Of course, we knew this a few months ago, with the kde twink dev commenting on it as well as the australian, of course being retarded, they have no clue how companies work and think a non profit means the company needs to make no profit. Coincidentally, the supposed jewish nazi was right on the money. The fact they can't just look up that a non profit only means the companies goal is to not enrich the pockets of its owners and investors, and that employees and business expenses still have to be paid is beyond me.
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If Gnome vanished off the earth what would we really lose? Cinnamon and Mate are both very good forks (with different purposes), and the core apps have alternatives. Cosmic is shaping up to be pretty impressive and I may switch to it from Cinnamon once it's stable.
 
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Betonhaus said:
If Gnome vanished off the earth what would we really lose? Cinnamon and Mate are both very good forks (with different purposes), and the core apps have alternatives. Cosmic is shaping up to be pretty impressive and I may switch to it from Cinnamon once it's stable.
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Yup, zero loss, gnome is a terrible de and no one should use it after Cosmic is ready. I used to use cinnamon but hyprland swayed my hand over to the wayland side.
 
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Yup, zero loss, gnome is a terrible de and no one should use it after Cosmic is ready. I used to use cinnamon but hyprland swayed my hand over to the wayland side.
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The loss would be massive, but not in a way that effects me. Ubuntu has been lame, and even Fedora is lame. Arch users rarely used Gnome as they hate it, and Linux Mint is the best OS for new users
 
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Rust Troony said:
Yup, zero loss, gnome is a terrible de and no one should use it after Cosmic is ready.
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Pretty much the only remotely decent thing gnome hasn't ruined (as far as I'm aware) is Evolution. Some people use Evolution over thunderbird because of better support for outlook/exchange/somemicrosoftthing (though anything beats k*ntact and ACK-onadi)

I still sometimes miss the old GNOME 2 from the ubuntu 9.04 era.
 
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Betonhaus said:
nd if you take away that concern then Brave is fully open source.
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While I kinda agree, I personally call these "open source versions", as in they have less features than the paid versions. I don't see these as bad, this is cool, but when previously open sourced features become paid features I think that's really gay. Look at Gravitee for a good example. Most of their currently paid features were free features in their previous version, and anyone who doesn't like it can keep using the old, buggy, insecure one or pay at minimum thousands a month.

This isn't exactly what brave did, and they're not doing anything against the spirit of open source I guess, but it feels odd that they claim to be open source when all the features that make it different are actually closed source. Why not open source brave sync, is the code shit and they're afraid of everyone seeing the vulnerabilities? Are they afraid a competitor will do it better? Code to sync data between two clients isn't really rocket science, so I don't see an issue "secret work" wise, it's not like their competitors could suddenly get an edge.

Usually it's acceptable to not include api keys because they're to 3rd party services, and for many there's alternatives you can use e.g minio for s3, but this is all brave-built with no alternative. Want the features? Use it from us, or else.

For open source software to survive we need the devs to eat, so premium features are cool and you can't really just do hosting anymore with aws & etc eating that market, but there should be a bit more transparency in the advertising.

I like open source because features are reliable since I can have everything fully local and depending on me, not on some company that may or may not survive in the future. If the developer of your favorite open source software with a premium version you were depending on dies and there's nothing that has the exact same things you needed in one package, wouldn't that suck? Move on or diy I guess, if you're uerisimilitudo or similar you'll stoically not give a shit, but normal people care when stuff they have used for ages just disappears on them.
 
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The only gnome apps that are worth a damn are evolution, disks, and some of the underlying stuff like gnome keyring. The desktop environment is a massive piece of fucking shit and gnome devs are some fucking retards along with alot of supporters. Gnome devs basically want to be the apple of the linux world but that's impossible because they fail to realize that in order to become the apple of the linux world that linux users have to be even more fucking stupid than they are which has proven to be a fruitless pursuit for them (fuck gnome). Also I'm not sure if the gnome devs started this but there was that whole iniative where developers where plasting this little green logon on their github for apps and shit that said "Don't theme my app." Your app is open source. People are gonna do whatever the fuck they want with it and if that bother's you that much then either don't code open source or suck it up.
 
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jeff7989 said:
About IME, it's kinda bullshit. You don't need trannyboot to disable it. It can be done with Coreboot and MEcleaner. It will lobotomize it, clearing ROM required to boot it. Not sure up to which Intel generation exactly, since I got rid of my old Thinkpad and I don't fuck around with Coreboot anymore.
It was cool to have Grub embedded in BIOS chip, pretty much instant boot from a hardcoded partition. You can even hide your encryption stuff inside coreboot, and have true full disk encryption, though I couldn't be bothered.
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You could.

Though librebooting is already pushing it for the average person. As far as what they can, or are willing to do.

I ended up librebooting my w541, which is one of the newest (maybe the newest, with the best specs) thinkpad that can do it. And that was a bit of a pita.

Partially because Lenovo designed it where you need to take it completely apart, because the bios chip is hidden under the motherboard and can't be reached unless it's taken out. So getting that out, is a ton of work already. Then you need to actually do the flashing. The w541 has 2 chips so they both need to be read and flashed.

I looked into coreboot, and in the end I went libreboot because it just did what I wanted, and I could.

Besides to me, not using something because I disagree with the makers political views, or gender shit is gay.
 
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Seasoned News Reporter said:
The only gnome apps that are worth a damn are evolution, disks, and some of the underlying stuff like gnome keyring.
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Is there any alternative at all to GNOME Keyring, speaking of? I try to run a de-gnomified setup but that's one of a very few things I knuckled under for.
 
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Is there any alternative at all to GNOME Keyring, speaking of? I try to run a de-gnomified setup but that's one of a very few things I knuckled under for.
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I believe there is a few, the KDE keyring for example.
They both use libsecret on their backend so that's a basis to go buy. I think read something else about someone doing some esoteric magic for using keepassxc to replace gnome-keyring as well. I wouldn't mind replacing the gnome keyring myself or getting it fixed because the cve report linked here and gnomes response is weird. This would explain why arch linux users despise gnome so god damn much and I get it.
 
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Is there any alternative at all to GNOME Keyring, speaking of? I try to run a de-gnomified setup but that's one of a very few things I knuckled under for.
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Isn't gnome-keyring like barely part of the gnome project anyway, gnome just took it for convenience but it works on any DE/WM. If you want to be pedantic I know you can use KeePass XC as a keyring-like application.
 
0gh said:
While I kinda agree, I personally call these "open source versions", as in they have less features than the paid versions.
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0gh said:
Want the features? Use it from us, or else.
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Are you stupid or trolling? First off you guys have no idea how private keys work, they're usually coupled with a public key that is generated on the fly and that's how you can access encrypted or safeguarded content like this.
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This is what @Betonhaus was trying to say. If software is protected by an api or a private key it's to protect the source code, but while allowing folks to get it if it's needed for an open source project with the added boon of a secure connection and anthenticating the user. Debian, Arch and many others do it too, why else do you need a key to use their repo?

Then, there's also the fact arch has an unofficial built of brave, made by a third-party, not by the brave foundation according to this. Arch is one of the most popular distros out there. If building brave from source removed core features it would've been noticed a long time ago by arch users.

If you want a truly closed-source program that has missing features if you'd compile it, take a look at Vivaldi, that browser's specific features are completely closed-source, not even "closed-source, but you can still download the compiled code and then compile the browser yourself with every feature" like brave, but closed-closed-source that you need to download it from their website. In fact, brave's built-in adblocker is a webextension, I'm sure you can even install it on Chromium if you tried.

You guys are well within your rights to be angry that brave is not as 'open' as you'd wanted, but stop spreading misinformation. I don't wanna spend the next few days derailing the thread by correcting you over and over again. you're getting all worked up over nothing
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I believe there is a few, the KDE keyring for example.
They both use libsecret on their backend so that's a basis to go buy. I think read something else about someone doing some esoteric magic for using keepassxc to replace gnome-keyring as well. I wouldn't mind replacing the gnome keyring myself or getting it fixed because the cve report linked here and gnomes response is weird. This would explain why arch linux users despise gnome so god damn much and I get it.
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I reckon there's the dconf editor that's GNOME and it doesn't work well on other DEs on fresh install, you gotta edit the desktop file just to get it to work under KDE on Ubuntu for example, but once you do it works the same way as on GNOME.
I hate how GNOME is trying to sabotage other projects and that's why I don't like them, I don't think only arch users hate GNOME I think everybody who uses linux hates GNOME by now.
 
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Betonhaus said:
If Gnome vanished off the earth what would we really lose? Cinnamon and Mate are both very good forks (with different purposes), and the core apps have alternatives. Cosmic is shaping up to be pretty impressive and I may switch to it from Cinnamon once it's stable.
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Does the Gnome foundation pay for maintenance on GTK and Gimp? Otherwise yeah, nothing of value would be lost.

I think the best life hack I've ever had was just using XFCE and LXDE for the last 10+ years. I don't know how everyone puts up with this shit constantly changing and shitting its pants. If I get on a computer I gots real shits to do, I don't want to fuck with some bullshit animations, some crazy retards choice to total reinvent everything over a weekend or the general bloated DE experience.
 
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Weapons of Mass Tardation said:
Does the Gnome foundation pay for maintenance on GTK and Gimp? Otherwise yeah, nothing of value would be lost.

I think the best life hack I've ever had was just using XFCE and LXDE for the last 10+ years. I don't know how everyone puts up with this shit constantly changing and shitting its pants. If I get on a computer I gots real shits to do, I don't want to fuck with some bullshit animations, some crazy retards choice to total reinvent everything over a weekend or the general bloated DE experience.
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OpenSUSE + XFCE == Linux for Niggers. I absolutely swear by it.
 
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