Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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To be honest I still find it a little weird how the sinners are higher on the food chain than the demons that were actually born in Hell.
I personally see it as a sort of "humans are the real monsters" type thing – in that Sinners are capable of much greater evil (and therefore have easy ways toward becoming much stronger) than the Hellborn, who are born "innocent" and only get corrupted by Sinner influence.... or something stupid like that idk

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That would be the case if written by a competent writer who is knowledgeable on Christian theology, not someone who's with the Hollywood/Broadway crowd and temporarily quit Xitter over the results of a US presidential election.
Fair enough, which is funny since I saw some fan fic writers and fan comic makers explore some of these concepts or flesh out the world more themselves.
 
That would be the case if written by a competent writer who is knowledgeable on Christian theology, not someone who's with the Hollywood/Broadway crowd and temporarily quit Xitter over the results of a US presidential election.
Ah, that reminds me of my concept of Heaven/Hell in my novel.
  • They are living things, just in different dimensions but inside in thr world.
  • Portals were the gates between those worlds and Earth but broken by a specific situation.
  • They have cities, societes, people.
  • Had military divisions and such.
  • Commanded by a Seraphin in Heaven and a Arch-Duke in Hell.
  • Both are linked with Earth's specific people. Likely their "sons" who inherent part of them.
All this was heavenly inspired by Darksider's Heaven & Hell and other personal & believe things.

The point is: is possible to write something more compentent than Vivzie. The only grand difference is actually being mature in your works.

Thing that Vivzie does not.
 
Just saw the spoilers.

What a complete letdown, I would've prefered that it was any other person that controled Alastor's contract.

Don't get me wrong, I like the character of Rosie, is just that I don't think that this plot point would work on her, even more considering what we saw in the episode where Charlie goes to the cannibal town.
 
I think the issue falls, from what I can muster up, is going with a "Bee design" is just hitting that generic norm, one would expect when talking about Beelzebub. Wont lie the fan redisigns do have a cuteness factor in it, but at the same it kinda gives that "Well, I know what to expect", my 2nd guess is cause of the lore how Hellhounds are associated with her, hence why she looks more doggo type.
This is why. Viv wanted to be different and also needed an excuse for her to be the ruler of the hellhounds. Plus Cerberus is associated with the circle of Gluttony and she’s basically a revamped design of Viv’s old sparkledog character Jojo, who she used in a Kesha music video.
 
Listen okay that woman is beautiful. GLOWING. It is her RIGHT to show sexually suggestive artwork to children. That's just charity. She's educating the youth.
‘She’s’ an ugly whore.

Why do half of these troons have this shitty one-sided long hairstyle?
Because they know they can’t pass for an actual woman?
 
An autistic troon.
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Pic related.
Lmao, as usual, the AGP smirk and an almost FGAS (Fat "Girl" Angle Shot). Forgot what furry "artist" this is, but as usual, xhe draws a bunch of gynomorphs.
Just saw the spoilers.

What a complete letdown, I would've prefered that it was any other person that controled Alastor's contract.

Don't get me wrong, I like the character of Rosie, is just that I don't think that this plot point would work on her, even more considering what we saw in the episode where Charlie goes to the cannibal town.
I guess... what Alastor desires the most will be his undoing?? He likes to eat people, and will either get a Kuru disease (eating brains) or Rosie will eat him.
 
Yep
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To be honest I still find it a little weird how the sinners are higher on the food chain than the demons that were actually born in Hell.

It makes sense on a vague powerlevel way but not in a in-universe world building way.

Sinners are immortal by default (to non exterminators) and have "potential" to become very powerful by control ingenough souls, even becoming overlords, so logically they should be above mortal hellborn.

The problem is that sinners are stuck in the pride ring so they're effectively locked out of 6/7 of hell which, in my opinion, should matter more than nothing.

It also creates a weird power vaacum on other rings because there are no sinners+overlords in other rings so like, if you live in Sloth you might not even know Alastor exists.
 
The reason why Beelzebub is designed the way she is because it's essentially Kesha's fursona Viv made back way in the day. 925eb4f73ea1d37d812bbc58d8f0f47ec2dffb22adcac172a6f22456b4f91107.jpg3ba19699a3b5ae0a38bd0d8e7563de82aecfac3c8fba910b8d459b3a07799b80.jpg3f728278b77b1d42da10da0203bfd3306e6c4056ea00b3547ec86937cb0e62b8.jpg(The resemblance is very noticeable)
Also, I hate the fact that Viv said that all the Sins are based off Circus acts and Beezlebub is supposed to be an animal tamer...which she resembles nothing like. None of the redesigns for her even acknowledged it so I had to do my own shitty drawn over version to get something.
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Twitter thread from some guy who scanned the entire Playbill.
I'll admit it's much larger than I thought, being about 50 pages. Still don't see what took them an whole year to get to get a basic magazine out.
Plus it got put on the merch shop for five bucks, so the dumbasses who bought that $80 package got fucked.
You should have archived this cause I'm getting nothing from either.
 
Also, I hate the fact that Viv said that all the Sins are based off Circus acts and Beezlebub is supposed to be an animal tamer...which she resembles nothing like. None of the redesigns for her even acknowledged it so I had to do my own shitty drawn over version to get something.
I did in fact find that one redesign of Bee I mentioned, which does actually acknowledge that.
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Might not be appealing to a lot of people on Kiwi Farms (or maybe I’m just assuming that from how much I frequent the SJW art thread) but I like it a lot. I’m really not looking forward to how Leviathan is going to be portrayed because I know Vivzie is going to make him lame and possibly gay.
 
I’m really not looking forward to how Leviathan is going to be portrayed because I know Vivzie is going to make him lame and possibly gay.
I have a feeling Levi is gonna be the "Sir not appearing in this movie" or something. Like, aside from a cameo photo of him and Lucifer in the pilot, he barely gets brought up..also didnt Leviathin get killed off?


Honestly, when it comes to Bee I think what would have worked is her "normal" form she looks way Viv made her, but when she gets mad or needs to kick someones ass is thats when she goes into sort off actual bee/insect form.
 
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God they’re so ugly. There’s something especially wrong with Loona’s face and hair.
Because the hair looks like they just attached a small pillow to her head and didn't even bother to give it a proper coloring to match her fur, the face looks wrong because it seems like it's a very weird angle.
 
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