Does universal healthcare actually work somewhere?

[Slap47]

Healthcare in Japan and South Korea seems fine despite the quickly aging population.

The difference is they don’t import millions of people who would be net drains in the economy and system.

Aging populations isn’t necessarily bad for healthcare as long as you account for it and make sure enough people become healthcare professionals like Drs and Nurses and have enough hospitals and clinics.

Aging populations is bad for social security and pensions and those types of systems.

Japan's high barrier of entry from its language alone helps.

However, the obscene public debt to maintain their welfare state has resulted in extremely low birth rates.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

Japan's high barrier of entry from its language alone helps.

However, the obscene public debt to maintain their welfare state has resulted in extremely low birth rates.

Weird argument considering America incurs even worse debt to fund its military world police and corporation subsidies yet has so far incurred less damage to their birth rate in comparison. Although that could be changing since unaffordable healthcare is likely a big reason that fewer Americans are having children

 

[Slap47]

Weird argument considering America incurs even worse debt to fund its military world police and corporation subsidies yet has so far incurred less damage to their birth rate in comparison. Although that could be changing since unaffordable healthcare is likely a big reason that fewer Americans are having children

The US debt is only bigger because the US economy is bigger. As a percentage of the economy it is par the course.

Likewise, US military spending is not the majority of US spending. It is not even close.

 

[One Winged Pear Farmer]

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The US debt is only bigger because the US economy is bigger. As a percentage of the economy it is par the course.

Likewise, US military spending is not the majority of US spending. It is not even close.

Military tends to be 13-15% of government spending and does basically nothing to stimulate the economy making it a complete money sink. Pretty wild to act like that isn’t a major contributing factor

 

[Sargon's wife's son]

Yes switzerland's hybrid system works pretty well the problem isn't universal healthcare the problem is non transparency when it comes to billing

 

[9th year in hell]

It only works for smaller nations that are homogeneous (Sweden is a great example of how it was very good... and then the worst one within a decade). As soon the demographic becomes "diverse" the altruism disappears because you can't relate strangers and the system starts to get more load without the extra resources to carry it, due to more leeches it also accelerates this issue (socialist system has this problem, so this why Sweden really nosedived on this issue). So you have to use a private business model where the citizens can get what they need on "their own terms" (the governments way to say "not my problem") so poor get's the public care, which is essentaily just band aid and the leftover resources, the rest will pay extra for the good one, the private care.

You can't have universal healthcare in a diverse country, you need private for it to logistically work (at least for longer).