Aaron Imholte / Steel Toe Morning/Evening Show / "The Toe Boys" / r/steeltoeboringshow - Disgraced Minnesotan radio host turned racist Internet shock jock. Cuckold chef de Spaghetti-os, "2-2" boxing "coach". Has a legion of a-logs. Lost his wife to a coke addict he played "Strip Twister" with. Fined $50 for sharing nudes of Kayla Rekieta.

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To a normal person, this would be a KO on this particular lie. But Aaron isn't normal.

So let me predict the spin you will hear in a few hours:
1) Actually Scott confirmed here that he was a coach disproving the haters
2) Hes going to say this video was created for technical compliance with USABoxing. It's like a training video for the new guys. But behind the scenes, Scott and Coach Toe had a great laugh about this and know its bullshit.
 
To a normal person, this would be a KO on this particular lie. But Aaron isn't normal.

So let me predict the spin you will hear in a few hours:
1) Actually Scott confirmed here that he was a coach disproving the haters
2) Hes going to say this video was created for technical compliance with USABoxing. It's like a training video for the new guys. But behind the scenes, Scott and Coach Toe had a great laugh about this and know its bullshit.
To be honest for number 1, that's what i also took from the video.
 
After repeatedly being called out for lying about being a boxing coach, Aaron applied for Safesport certification only to be suspended after they did a background check
I don't see how someone can be "temporarily suspended" if he didn't already have the certification. Wouldn't they just reject his application if it wasn't up to snuff?
 
You are incorrect. The problem appears to be that you are making a massive mistake: taking Aaron Imholte at his word. Unless you stop doing that, it will be impossible for you to understand what is actually happening in reality instead of his fantasy world.

It's not relying on Aaron's word to think it's "not surprising at all that the gym owner would let it slide" with the formal jargon you've cited all giving way to a small town back-slapping good-old-boy attitude, which, incidentally, is confirmed by the video of Scott Kelm posted today. So now it turns out that Aaron was in fact a "coach," Scott's licensed gym did in fact employ Aaron as a "coach" for a lengthy period, Scott apparently let that relationship continue for some period between the suspension and whenever that video was recorded (before or after the Wednesday session Aaron said he was just allowed to do?), and Scott had to let down those athletes in the video with the news that they no longer have their "coach," only because all of a sudden this bizarre deluge of online scrutiny that Aaron stupidly egged on (when his better course was to "just be quiet" about what Scott was allowing) now has Scott terrified about losing his own licensure that is so critical for "insurance purposes," so of course Aaron gets thrown under the bus after they both got away with fudging formalities for all this time.

None of that is meant to cast Scott as the villain or Aaron as the victim, but Scott sure does depict an informal culture at that gym in which Aaron was so clearly a "coach" hired and paid by a "licensed" gym that he might have just been peabrained enough to believe those two things combined meant he was some sort of "licensed coach" until he found out that he wasn't. Even playing devil's advocate that's the only last-ditch cope that I can conjure and it's probably the one he'll run with, until a more thorough background investigation (or appeal or whatever it's called) eventually results in the licensure that even convicted felons can get and his gloating immediately diverts the Dabbleverse's gnat-tier attention span to that new shiny object as though none of this ever happened.

Citizen M hasn't posted here in months so I'm not sure what one of Melton's "minions" you think are posting in this thread or if it's just in your head.

Leaving aside how easy it could have been for Citizen M to hop into another sock account, and leaving aside the few posting users and the few other silent sticker-hanging users who have at times seemed more emotionally invested in this like it's a "team" sport as opposed to being mere Aaron detractors, by "ITT" I'm including lurkers whose close attention to this thread can be seen in repeated references to KF goings-on in Melton's chat.

That's not to say that any legitimate criticisms of Aaron should be tempered by how it might look in the eyes of Melton's fanbase as though this is some sort of zero-sum game where any Aaron L is automatically a Melton W (it's not, even though they view it that way), and is only to stay firm in the belief that any unironic fans of Melton should neck themselves immediately regardless of anything Aaron does. A plague on both their houses, as far as I'm concerned.
 
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To be honest for number 1, that's what i also took from the video.
Reading between the lines of the video and combining it with the email Scott had previously sent where he said "[a]t this time Aaron has NOT been registered as a coach" (the authenticity of which was already confirmed by Aaron) what appears to have happened is that Aaron was acting in some capacity as a "coach" without being registered or licensed as such with USA Boxing.

How that happened? Who knows. Maybe Aaron successfully fooled Scott into thinking he was a licensed coach. Or maybe he didn't check.

Once it became a controversy, Aaron was probably told he had to register, but he failed the background check.

He then intended to appeal with testimonials from the guys at his gym about how great a guy he was but couldn't stop publicly claiming to be coaching while everyone can see he's suspended by SafeSport, forcing the guy to dump Aaron publicly because the guy is jeopardizing his business at that point.

Isn't it renewed every year?
Aaron has said multiple contradictory things. He first claimed on January 14 to have gone through his email presenting a
"receipt from the beginning of the year" as proof except he scrolled down to the bottom concealing the date on the email and Gmail listed it as "1 of 1,069" in his inbox which meant it was his most recent email he had received.

But then Aaron had a problem. Coach Scott (the guy yelling about Toe in the video) sent an email where he said Aaron was not registered as a coach. Aaron then on January 16 decided on a new lie: he insisted he never claimed to be a licensed USA Boxing coach which was a lie since he first claimed to be that in 2023.
Here are 4 clips the first three showing that Aaron claimed to be a licensed USA Boxing coach as early as 2023 and the 4th from this month where he insists that he never claimed to be a licensed USA Boxing coach.

When Aaron failed his background check and became suspended, Aaron went back on his lie and decided to lie in a different way and claimed that the fact that he was suspended proves that he was a coach after all. This lie has tricked a few people in this thread.

To a normal person, this would be a KO on this particular lie. But Aaron isn't normal.

So let me predict the spin you will hear in a few hours:
1) Actually Scott confirmed here that he was a coach disproving the haters
2) Hes going to say this video was created for technical compliance with USABoxing. It's like a training video for the new guys. But behind the scenes, Scott and Coach Toe had a great laugh about this and know its bullshit.
"Coach" Aaron has put Coach Scott in a very difficult position and I can see Aaron keeping up with his bullshit and forcing Scott to go nuclear on the guy.
 
From what I see, both BoxingUSA and Safesport are renewed anually.

If Aaron was registered as an amateur boxer with BoxingUSA, he didn't need the safesport background check. To be a coach, you need to pass Safesport. So it is possible Aaron previously passed or didn't apply at all previously, in which case he was coaching unofficially or currently doing so unofficially.

Either way, it becomes difficult to add all this up and say the guy wasn't coaching in some capacity. Why he needed to boast about it and shoot himself in the foot I have no idea.

In terms of the suspension, a HRO in itself is not grounds for a suspension. Violating it is though and how seriously they take that is going to the subject. Does anyone know if his violation was a misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor or felony?

Reading between the lines, if all this is background check related, he is likely seeking a supporting letter from the ex and they likely will allow him to pass, if not felony.

Also, even if not being allowed to coach, what Aaron is accused of is unlikely to have a lasting impact on the amateur boxer license.

The guy in the video seemed more pissed about the upcoming boxing event and specifically the trying to spar with people not registered and not in his presence. Ergo, Ethan Ralph. If so, that complaint likely came via Melton.

Either way Aaron dug his own grave here by being mouthy.

Hypothetically, though, a W is on the cards for Aaron if Safesport eventually clear him.
 
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Hypothetically, though, a W is on the cards for Aaron if Safesport eventually clear him.
For now, it's a distinct L for the Toe!
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2) Hes going to say this video was created for technical compliance with USABoxing. It's like a training video for the new guys. But behind the scenes, Scott and Coach Toe had a great laugh about this and know its bullshit.

Kidding aside, has anyone yet been able to figure out how it was that Doom, who usually just clips from Dabbleverse livestreams, was the one who happened to luck into this exclusive scoop? If it really was an a-log's fan who went undercover as a new boxing student or some shit, then why didn't they save it for said a-log's next livestream, of which there were none tonight unless one went members-only? Or if it was Scott that had a friend hold the camera to get this out for his own protection, why would he know to send it to Doom of all people without an a-log (or even Aaron himself) telling him that Doom exists? With what a cesspool of gayfabe the Dabbleverse is, even Aaron having held the camera wouldn't be surprising at this point...
 
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No doubt, as he currently can't box. Yet this video lends more support to his coaching claim, especially combined with how that Scott guy worded that email. Aaron used to have a key, etc etc. Doesn't he say in the video he is a lawyer? Lawyerly worded.

Aaron being a doofus needed to boast about it all though, lol
 
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Does anyone know if his violation was a misdemeanor, gross misdemeanor or felony?

Reading between the lines, if all this is background check related, he is likely seeking a supporting letter from the ex and they likely will allow him to pass, if not felony.

As with any first offense HRO violation it was a misdemeanor, and for a pretty boring "just jokes" fact pattern compared to the kind of psycho stalker shit that boxing organizations are used to seeing day in and day out:

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While it's absolutely correct that any HRO violation is a red-flag triggering immediate suspension pending further investigation (or appeal if that's what they call it at this stage), I don't think anyone on any "side" is seriously asserting that he will the suspension will not eventually be lifted when SafeSport fully considers that it's a single first-offense misdemeanor, with the relatively mild underlying allegations above, for violating an underlying HRO that explicitly makes "no findings of harassment" in the first place and was ultimately allowed to lapse by the petitioner who (allegedly) joined the various character reference letters, with full compliance with all probation conditions thus far. What remains to be seen is whether SafeSport forces him to wait for their decision until the revenge porn prosecution is tried or pled down, or if they allow some sort of probationary status in the interim. Either way the 24-48 hour turnaround he was crowing about sounds like a pipe dream.
 
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As with any first offense HRO violation it was a misdemeanor, and for a pretty boring "just jokes" fact pattern compared to the kind of psycho stalker shit that boxing organizations are used to seeing day in and day out:

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While it's absolutely correct that any HRO violation is a red-flag triggering immediate suspension pending further investigation (or appeal if that's what they call it at this stage), I don't think anyone on any "side" is seriously asserting that he will the suspension will not eventually be lifted when SafeSport fully considers that it's a single first-offense misdemeanor, with the relatively mild underlying allegations above, for violating an underlying HRO that explicitly makes "no findings of harassment" in the first place and was ultimately allowed to lapse by the petitioner who (allegedly) joined the various character reference letters, with full compliance with all probation conditions thus far. What remains to be seen is whether SafeSport forces him to wait for their decision until the revenge porn prosecution is tried or pled down, or if they allow some sort of probationary status in the interim. Either way the 24-48 hour turnaround he was crowing about sounds like a pipe dream.
For sure he has been way overfident on it. Even worse for him, the way it is written they could still fuck him over even at misdemeanor level and even with a supporting level from the ex. Theoretically, although even more unlikely, they could also disqualify him from even being an amateur boxer.
 
Even if his appeal is successful and he's immediately licensed as a USA Boxing coach there's no chance in Hell that he's returning to that gym to train anybody. The owner Scott sounded personally offended by the whole ordeal; surely the word is going to spread to any other gyms in the area.

He can cope and laugh it off on his livestream, but he burned that bridge down to the bottom of the Mississippi river. All because he wanted to break bread with the pedophile who's spent months, if not longer, openly fantasizing about violently raping his young children by name.
 
Aaron announced Geno is the co-host today. Unless Aaron knows 100% that the revenge porn case goes nowhere, this has to be some kind of mental condition. I'd like to think its the former, but...

As a preview to that he already had Geno and Keanu on the show this morning, repeatedly cracking jokes about his case in a way that sure doesn't sound like two star witnesses in a felony case talking to someone who takes seriously even any slim possibility of them making him a felon:


Even for Aaron it'd be incredibly boneheaded to disturb tense plea negotiations with the appearance of anything other than somber reflection and contrition, and it'd be even dumber to have a key witness start what are apparently going to be regular co-host appearances (filling in for recent reduction of Johnny's three days a week down to two) that historically Aaron was compensating Geno for, however tardily. What attorney worth his salt wouldn't tard-wrangle Aaron about paying money to a witness against him being a no-no, unless there's already a tentative plea agreement in principle that would make any witness tampering concerns moot?

Then again, we are talking about a guy who tried to arrange a boxing match against a different witness against him and against two people supposedly under investigation for suspected crimes against him until his attorney tard-wrangled him out of it the moment the attorney first found out about it, so it's that possible the attorney just has no idea that Aaron put Geno on payroll and won't find out until ruining his suit in a spittake next week shouting YOU DID WHAT?!?
 
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If he threatens to box people, he belongs in the tough guys subforum. Look at this guy, he probably can't win a fight against a pool noodle.
Nah, let's be completely honest here.

He probably could have taken Ralph.

But that's only because Ralph is barely ambulatory. Hell, oftentimes he's barely conscious.

Citizen M hasn't posted here in months so I'm not sure what one of Melton's "minions" you think are posting in this thread or if it's just in your head.
Not directed to me but, since you asked, @RollerGator, for one. Look at his post history. And his profile.

He been doing it pretty consistently for a while now.

Remember the Saddam Lanza containment thread, in the days before you created this thread:

If you think that Fatrick Melton is literally lusting after Aaron's kids you're an autistic retard. He's saying the absolute worst shit imaginable just to get a rise out of Aaron.

You yourself gave him a trashcan for that. He's also been appropriately pink triangled for shitting up threads with his white knighting for the fat fuck. He's pretty much diet Citizen M as far as I'm concerned.

Much like Citizen M, he also earned this containment thread, pulled out of this one, just this week. We're back to the "but Uncle Paul" shit that's been regurgitated a million times.

Please note my mentioning this should not be construed to mean I disagree with your assessment that Aaron is lying about the boxing shit. Or that he's wrong for trying to attend Hackamania. I am completely on board with that.

That said, there have been Meltonites intermittently trying to crap up this thread, and the Melton thread, since the very beginning. That's undeniable. It's the major reason I rarely post in this thread.

Nor do I have much of a quarrel with the generic Aaron critics. There's plenty to criticize Aaron for. But the Meltonites, specifically, can fuck off and die (or at least go back to Reddit).

I genuinely don't understand why so many Aaron critics rally around that fat fuck. I think it ultimately hurts their case against Aaron.

What do you think of Aaron Imholte offering to box his detractors in Vegas during Patrick Melton's Hackamania event as a way to drum up Melton's ticket sales, which would result in direct financial gain for Melton?
Again, not directed to me, but I'll say that's where he lost any support I may have had for him, and why I don't GAF about him anymore. I said as much in the Rekieta thread many of the side characters in the Balldoverse collapse are beyond aggravating now. Many of them have long overstayed their welcome and now just spewing bullshit.

What I was hoping that would happen here is that Aaron and/or Ashley would have followed through on their (rather vague) threats to take legal action against Melton. Aaron would have actually gotten kudos from the Farms for that for that given how utterly vile Melton is.

But if he's just gonna try and attention whore to the point he ends up supporting Melton financially, he can fuck off as far as I'm concerned.

He's still not as bad as a father who lets his 8 year old get into coke, but he's inches closer to something like that with such contemptible acts as trying to be a guest at a convention hosted by a guy that sexualizes his minor children.
 
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It is on him to get Melton to stop but the damage was already done in any case: Melton broadcast this girl's face and name online alongside those sexual comments, and that is not on Aaron. Melton made that choice and his cocksuckers make the choice to defend it.
And they are now spinning the attempt to organize a boxing match, during with Aaron would be legally allowed to beat up and humiliate Nick and Melton, as an L. (If he cannot do anything to Melton using the legal system, this sounds like an actual interesting way to legally cave his face in)

I agree, some people have completely lost it since Nick got his plea deal and have started sweeping for Lord Balldo (and Melton) by going after Aaron.

They are pushing their narratives really hard and confirm each other's posts and pretend "they called it before it was confirmed", while nothing is actually confirmed and they are just reading tealeaves and interpreting the rulebook of a civil organization.

All they are doing is riding Nick's and Melton's dick like little willing loli cocksleaves.
Interestingly they picked up the activity after certain other retards were banned.
 
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