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They really wanted Trump out the way while they tried to pull off this gay shit and they know it! No wonder he had a few attempts on his life.I may have missed it mentioned but Z was instrumental in Trump's "impeachment" the first go around. I don't know that you need more reason than someone trying to boot you from arguably the most powerful position in the world to tell them to go fuck themselves.
'Mods should have him sperg out for a bit longer, the seething of these slaves realizing its joever is pricelessIt was nice to see an example of a brit being impotenly angry with Russia in the thread, really makes it feel like the rest of the internet.
Erdogan looks like a bored babysitter, who has to take care of the Zelens-kid, while the kid's parents (USA and Russia) are in Saudi Arabia at the BIG BOYS table.View attachment 7002277
Posted (to /r/Europe) by u/Gullible-voter. Lmao.
I haven't really followed the Ukraine situation since it pretty much started, but isn't Ukraine basically being propped up by the Western weaponry it has been getting? I understand Russia is basically a paper tiger at this point but it seems they have been consistently (albeit slowly) taking land and both sides are taking heavy casualties. I don't think Ukraine is going to win a war of attrition with Russia, i mean they can bleed them out a lot more whilst also suffering large losses themselves, but then what? i don't think Russia is just going to call it a day and end the war with no gains after 3 years.
I genuinely don't understand why some people in the U.S and Western Europe are getting absolutely assmad about the events over the past few days. I mean, it would make more sense for a vote to be held among the people in Ukraine whether they want to continue the war or not. Maybe i am underestimating their patriotic mindset or what not, but i imagine the majority want the war and killing to end and would consider ceding territory to that end.
I just don't understand what throwing more money and weapons at Ukraine is going to accomplish other than catastrophic numbers of death.
Ukraine is indeed getting propped up by the west. As for the paper tiger claim Russia even by the admission of the man in charge of NATO outproduces them 4 to 1. The whole reason why Russia is advancing so slowly isn't because they are suffering heavy losses, but because they would prefer to minimize them by methodically attriting the Ukrainians rather than run head first into the defence line they built up over the past decade (just look at Kiev's 2023 counteroffensive).I haven't really followed the Ukraine situation since it pretty much started, but isn't Ukraine basically being propped up by the Western weaponry it has been getting? I understand Russia is basically a paper tiger at this point but it seems they have been consistently (albeit slowly) taking land and both sides are taking heavy casualties. I don't think Ukraine is going to win a war of attrition with Russia, i mean they can bleed them out a lot more whilst also suffering large losses themselves, but then what? i don't think Russia is just going to call it a day and end the war with no gains after 3 years.
I genuinely don't understand why some people in the U.S and Western Europe are getting absolutely assmad about the events over the past few days. I mean, it would make more sense for a vote to be held among the people in Ukraine whether they want to continue the war or not. Maybe i am underestimating their patriotic mindset or what not, but i imagine the majority want the war and killing to end and would consider ceding territory to that end.
I just don't understand what throwing more money and weapons at Ukraine is going to accomplish other than catastrophic numbers of death.
Some very nasty people have financial interests on the war continuing, some have ethnic interests in this continuing. Others are propagandised by their governments, media and the reality of the situation is starting to set in.I genuinely don't understand why some people in the U.S and Western Europe are getting absolutely assmad about the events over the past few days. I mean, it would make more sense for a vote to be held among the people in Ukraine whether they want to continue the war or not. Maybe i am underestimating their patriotic mindset or what not, but i imagine the majority want the war and killing to end and would consider ceding territory to that end.
That is the intention, for the most part. It's all but outright stated that Ukraine is being used as a buffer to "bleed Russia" in service to NATO interests. How effective that is is questionable, but the point is to burn a proxy to burn an enemy.I just don't understand what throwing more money and weapons at Ukraine is going to accomplish other than catastrophic numbers of death.
So it's basically a Verdun style "bleed them white" scenario. That was something i always considered because the attempts to drag on this war didn't really make much sense to me other than for that end goal. However, this could backfire spectacularly if Russia ends up getting what they want with the added "bonus" of having a lot of battle data for this era of warfare along with an active military with prolonged combat experience.That is the intention, for the most part. It's all but outright stated that Ukraine is being used as a buffer to "bleed Russia" in service to NATO interests. How effective that is is questionable, but the point is to burn a proxy to burn an enemy.
Don't forget the perks of utterly humiliating the west on the global stage. Not in the "Ukraine took a few rural villages in Kursk, PUTLER IS HUMILIATED" clickbait, but rather the era shaping realization that will come once neutral nations or ones slightly aligned with the west realize that even if all of NATO and their allies pour in everything to win a war they can still be beaten. Suddenly you will start to see a lot of nations who otherwise would have been too scared to realign themselves make their move.So it's basically a Verdun style "bleed them white" scenario. That was something i always considered because the attempts to drag on this war didn't really make much sense to me other than for that end goal. However, this could backfire spectacularly if Russia ends up getting what they want with the added "bonus" of having a lot of battle data for this era of warfare along with an active military with prolonged combat experience.
What's gonna happen with all the shit the US gave Ukraine? Jackal/Lord of War 2.0?I haven't really followed the Ukraine situation since it pretty much started, but isn't Ukraine basically being propped up by the Western weaponry it has been getting? I understand Russia is basically a paper tiger at this point but it seems they have been consistently (albeit slowly) taking land and both sides are taking heavy casualties. I don't think Ukraine is going to win a war of attrition with Russia, i mean they can bleed them out a lot more whilst also suffering large losses themselves, but then what? i don't think Russia is just going to call it a day and end the war with no gains after 3 years.
I genuinely don't understand why some people in the U.S and Western Europe are getting absolutely assmad about the events over the past few days. I mean, it would make more sense for a vote to be held among the people in Ukraine whether they want to continue the war or not. Maybe i am underestimating their patriotic mindset or what not, but i imagine the majority want the war and killing to end and would consider ceding territory to that end.
I just don't understand what throwing more money and weapons at Ukraine is going to accomplish other than catastrophic numbers of death.
Don't forget that Russia and North Korea are now openly trading. The pariah status once applied to North Korea has vanished in the eyes of Russia, and possibly also China. The old ways of containing the rogue nuclear states (North Korea and Iran) are becoming ineffective as a result of sanctioning Russia so hard that it doesn't even matter if they work with the pair.You can already guarantee that in Europe alone it will happen with to places like Slovakia or Hungary given how poorly they have been treated.
It's not that Russia is paper tiger, it's that modern warfare is basically trench warfare with drones at this point...I haven't really followed the Ukraine situation since it pretty much started, but isn't Ukraine basically being propped up by the Western weaponry it has been getting? I understand Russia is basically a paper tiger at this point but it seems they have been consistently (albeit slowly) taking land and both sides are taking heavy casualties. I don't think Ukraine is going to win a war of attrition with Russia, i mean they can bleed them out a lot more whilst also suffering large losses themselves, but then what? i don't think Russia is just going to call it a day and end the war with no gains after 3 years.
I genuinely don't understand why some people in the U.S and Western Europe are getting absolutely assmad about the events over the past few days. I mean, it would make more sense for a vote to be held among the people in Ukraine whether they want to continue the war or not. Maybe i am underestimating their patriotic mindset or what not, but i imagine the majority want the war and killing to end and would consider ceding territory to that end.
I just don't understand what throwing more money and weapons at Ukraine is going to accomplish other than catastrophic numbers of death.