Careercow Elon Reeve Musk - Tesla, SpaceX and Twitter owner + ex-paypal CEO. Manchild, sexual deviant, spergy autist with access to space travel

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Elon vs Donald, who will be triumphant?

  • Elon Musk

    Votes: 29 2.5%
  • Donald Trump

    Votes: 304 26.6%
  • Us, and the friends we made along the way

    Votes: 810 70.9%

  • Total voters
    1,143
This isn't a true statement, I'm not as smart and neither are you. What's your point?
You may very well be as smart or smarter than Elon, but you just don't have those skills. People without a business background often don't understand how important it is to delegate and build strong teams to carry out your goals. Elon had this skill and for all the criticism you can make about his person and actions it was successful and built these companies into global brands.

You could be the smartest person on Earth and completely fail compared to someone of average intelligence simply because they know how to effectively delegate, build teams and communicate. I see it myself in my line of work, it's what makes things so much slower and more bearable giving me a lot more free time than I'd normally have.

And my workload isn't close to the level of a manufacturing and tech CEO, there is just too much to deal with to attempt to handle it all yourself.

This is why investors are getting concerned - his erratic behavior and actions are making it look like that talent is now in question.
 
The other thing is that the way to solve that is to root out the fraud, not cut benefits across the board (which I hope he doesn't succeed in doing). I remember years ago there was a scandal about people receiving SS benefits while they were in prison. The problem was rooted out and fixed.

With large government agencies it takes MONTHS for trained auditors to assess situations. An autistic billionaire with a band of young computer geeks can't do it in a few days. He is sputtering a lot lately in interviews. He knows DOGE is fucking up but won't admit it.

For some reason, it reminds me of the Sampoong Department Store collapse in Korea. Cutting corners for corporate greed will eventually have its consequences. I just wish we didn't have to live through it.
I think that the biggest mistake Musk made (assuming you actually want him to succeed) was going so fast that it caused too many problems.
If he had moved a bit slower and let people focus on usual global shit like Ukrain and Palestine he wouldn't have encountered so much resistance and attention.
 
DOGE and the entire Trump administration is schizophrenic. It reminds me a lot of the pseudo-conservatism of Reagan and the Grace Commision. At the end of the day they'll have increased the deficit and inflation massively, if the first Trump presidency is anything to go by. Trump and Elon will back off on cutting federal programs, just like Trump caved when it comes to his retard trade wars.
 
You may very well be as smart or smarter than Elon, but you just don't have those skills. People without a business background often don't understand how important it is to delegate and build strong teams to carry out your goals. Elon had this skill and for all the criticism you can make about his person and actions it was successful and built these companies into global brands.

You could be the smartest person on Earth and completely fail compared to someone of average intelligence simply because they know how to effectively build teams and communicate. Especially at the level of a CEO, there is just too much to deal with to attempt to handle it all yourself.

This is why investors are getting concerned - his erratic behavior and actions are making it look like that talent is now in question.
How is it in question? I don't understand this unless the investors saying these things are either new, haven't done their own due diligence, or are unaware that Tesla and Elon Musk have always been turbulent; kind of. It was steady in the Obama era and only became problematic when Problematic as its modern definition was created. Folks who are panicking that big wig establishment sorts are adjusting their massive portfolios speculating on the future. To the individual investor, this re-balancing is amplified and an easy way to stir up more panic. Self fulfilling prophecies. Probably spurred on by the very same people who benefit from the groups and organizations that Elon has been tied to through the actions of DOGE. If I also am remembering correctly, maybe a decade ago, Elon did mention he thought his own company was overpriced. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if indeed part of the sell off has been internal to buy back in at a lower price as a company. IDK, all I know is we're back at a price level where I don't think I'd mind adding more and the political tides are in their favor. I'm not trying to change minds just stating an opinion. My opinion for all the fellow investors is to breath. I know the news outlets have been well and truly beyond overstimulating, but breath, if Tesla is your entire portfolio you're doing it wrong. I haven't looked at the books in a long while K1s are so fuckin' boring.

Edit: I apologize I missed some of your points but in the interest in being more concise.
You may very well be as smart or smarter than Elon, but you just don't have those skills.
What do you mean by skills? He has instincts that I will never develop because I didn't live Elon's life. My childhood never had a threat of death by niggers simply for existing, not to mention the environment diseases, whatever. That is knowledge I will never have. It isn't skills it is experience. It is as you say you could be the smartest person on Earth and fail and that is their unique experience equal to that you could be the opposite, but no one will ever be Elon. This is why I'm probably, never going to be as smart or smarter as Elon. Well until I am proven fucking wrong or fucking right. Call it jiggaboo energy, i'm jiving with it.

Edit: in fact, if we were going off this same logic, I'd put Null about as smart as Elon Musk based on lived experiences alone.
 
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Elon is about to be the next in the list of prestigious, wealthy people who crashed and burned for simping for Trump. Remember Mike Lindell? He used to be worth over $100 million and now he’s broke. Remember Rudy Giuliani? He was one of the countries most respected republicans in 2001 and now he’s a disbarred laughing stock. Elon is wealthier than those other two, but he seems to be sperging out harder than either of them, too, so his crash will be fun to watch.

Want to make money with Trump? Stay close enough that he passes laws that benefit you but not close enough that his inevitable fuck ups make you look bad.
 
Edit: If I were as smart as Elon I'd have a billion dollars to slowly trickle feed the Kiwifarms over a prolonged amount of time to ensure its longevity.
There are bozos who coast through life, and then there are 120IQ genius savants who spend their lives in their mom's basement studying art, math, programming, and physics just so they can mod sexy ladies with jiggling tits into every game they play. In short, wealth =/= intelligence.
 
I think that the biggest mistake Musk made (assuming you actually want him to succeed) was going so fast that it caused too many problems.
If he had moved a bit slower and let people focus on usual global shit like Ukrain and Palestine he wouldn't have encountered so much resistance and attention.
So what are you saying? If he did the same shit more slowly and distracted people with other things the outcome would have been different? His intention (and Trump's) would have been the same.
 
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The real reason no one could ever be in Elon's position is that no one here had rich parents who ran emerald mines. He may have had some talent but he had the strongest head start and privileges most people can't afford.

I think that the biggest mistake Musk made (assuming you actually want him to succeed) was going so fast that it caused too many problems.
If he had moved a bit slower and let people focus on usual global shit like Ukrain and Palestine he wouldn't have encountered so much resistance and attention.
Musk's biggest mistake is even choosing to be in the spotlight. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos are prominent billionaires who are scumbags but do not have Elon's brand of autism.

Elon's failures are tied to how he wants to make a big show of himself so the conservatives can see him as a folk hero, the nerds could idolize him, and the normies see him as a funny meme guy.
 
So what are you saying? If he did the same shit more slowly and distracted people with other things the outcome would have been different? His intention (and Trump's) would have been the same.
That is why I said "assuming you actually want him to succeed" - I didn't say his or Trump's intentions would've been any different but the outcome likely would've been different.
And I think when I write stuff like this on KF people commonly misinterpret it to mean I want something and argue against it like you are "So what are you saying?" - it is just an observation that he has played all his cards very early on when Trump's term will be 4 years long.
Musk's biggest mistake is even choosing to be in the spotlight.
100%
the nerds could idolize him
He doesn't even worship the OG Deus Ex and fake plays shit like Diablo 4. The only "nerds" that idolize him are probably the people that think The Big Bang Theory is funny.
If you have infinite money to throw around it's not hard to accomplish great things.
You don't even need infinite money, you just need infinite luck:
"Born in Malden, Massachusetts in 1747, Timothy Dexter was a leatherworking apprentice who gained wealth, status, and luxury entirely through poorly considered hair-brained schemes that were wildly successful thanks to inhuman amounts of sheer retard luck."
 
What do you mean by skills? He has instincts that I will never develop because I didn't live Elon's life.
True, true, go on...
My childhood never had a threat of death by niggers simply for existing, not to mention the environment diseases, whatever.
And here it goes again... into the chamber with @#FreeRoss.
And I thought you might be actually based. I was also bullied some, so what?
Musk def. had a head start in all matters education and business.
I don't see how elon was beat up by black kids either: Since his dad was an apartheid enthusiast, you can be sure that he went to a private school with whites only - they just saw the same sped we see now and tried to do the right thing. The point at which he overtook many of us was when he got into elite schools with elite brains, being directed and given the money to literally with "business" like us plebs do chemistry kit experiments in our teens, that's the secret to his "skillset" we lack.

The real reason why tesla wants to rid themselves of him is that his only use - as of late at least - was pumping the stock with his public image stunts, that's over now, because there's too little overlap between tesla pre-order suckers and maga conservitards - he now desperately tries to meme them into pre-ordering their own, but that political 180 was just too much. Look, the company is massively overvalued, they don't have comparable output to legit car mfds, but their value is somewhere up there, to my pleb brain that seems fishy - the hypertrain itself is their main business model, because their cars at 30K can't compete in any way shape or form with what any other car company can pump out at that price range. Neither margin-wise or quality and useability wise.
SpaceX at least is a solid gubbnint gibs gigs like lookheed martin or boeing.
 
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Musk's biggest mistake is even choosing to be in the spotlight. Bill Gates, Mark Zuckerberg, and Jeff Bezos are prominent billionaires who are scumbags but do not have Elon's brand of autism.
It's not a mistake. His wealth depends on people throwing money at him, and people wouldn't be throwing money at him if he hadn't built this image of a genious rocketman and saviour of humanity.
 
The real reason why tesla wants to rid themselves of him is that his only use - as of late at least - was pumping the stock with his public image stunts, that's over now, because there's too little overlap between tesla pre-order suckers and maga conservitards - he now desperately tries to meme them into pre-ordering their own, but that political 180 was just too much.
Agreeing with you.

>X released its first global transparency report since Elon Musk's takeover, revealing the platform suspended almost 5.3 million accounts based on rule violations in the first half of 2024

There’s 5.3 million people who ain’t buying a fucking Tesla.

Just telling a co worker, as much as I might have liked one of the ones Hertz was firesale’ing, or perhaps starlink, as long as Elons smarmy ass bans people and lectures us about “freedom of reach” I’m not signing up for anything Elon’s American hating ass is attached to. Wouldn’t buy a Tesla for $1000 , wouldn’t buy Starlink for $1/month. Not buying the next big idea he steals from someone else or has darpa daddy hand him.

Getting rid of him at Tesla isn’t good enough. Kick Kimball Musk and all his cronies and friends off the board too. Total Elon Death, or I’ll just walk and use smoke signals or braille punchcards.

Only reason this threads worth a fuck is that I don’t have the Tesla Reputation Management Army white knighting him , shouting everyone down, or banning them from the rest of KF for criticizing Dear Leader. This shit has ruined almost every other forum on earth that you can deploy a shill or a bot or a ballwasher on.
 
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I’m not signing up for anything Elon’s American hating ass is attached to. Wouldn’t buy a Tesla for $1000 , wouldn’t buy Starlink for $1/month. Not buying the next big idea he steals from someone else or has darpa daddy hand him.
Yeah, but that's political sperging again. If it's the best sat-interwebs, I want it. People VOTED elon's gang into office, but I'm not cancelling my u.s. citizenship over that either, voting with you wallet is almost idealistic, because you still need the goods, not matter what cuckoo asshole "owns" shit and takes a cut. Tesla cars just suck, there's no reason to buy 'em safe for stanning elon. And his rockets I don't personally need at all - not in that market. But if I was for some reason stuck in the middle of bumfucknowhere, imma use the best red american sat-net available. These people need to be ousted by other means, if push comes to shove... Just sayin'

Likewise, X just sucks, so I'm not using it much, safe for lurking.
 
Do you think, if you had near unlimited resources and fame, you also might be able to put together a team of experts to make anything your autistic heart desires? “Hes smart enough to realize he can’t build a car by himself” is not the flex you think.
The problem is all the ideas he has are completely retarded and fuck up the end product. He is no Steve Jobs.
His most important successes were things he had the least amount of involvement in, and his first big singular project at Tesla was their biggest flop.
I finally saw a Cybertruck in the wild today for the first time. The context is mildly amusing. I was merging and five assholes in a row deliberately cut me off by speeding up, nearly causing two of them to crash. Then the Cybertruck guy conscientously lane shifted to let me in.

It is as outlandishly ugly a vehicle as I have ever seen, even worse than in pictures, but at least this one wasn't driven by a douchebag.
 
The gun is from Deus Ex: Human Revolution
Appropriate, given that the Cybertruck looks like it was designed for JC Denton.

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Appropriate, given that the Cybertruck looks like it was designed for JC Denton.

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The thing is, when I played Deus Ex, I was a teenager, but Musk already was a 30 something boomer when it was the cool thing to play. For him, it should be the Deckard Blade Runner Gun, but it isn't, because he's hardcore invested in the manchild image while also just being one.

And I'm not saying having that on your night stand and wearing brown trench coats instead of black is any less cringe - I'm just noooticing things again.

Everything seems off and forced about the guy, it doesn't stop.
 
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