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Sorry. I'm describing going out to bars, drinking, being rowdy, etc. You didn't seem to understand that some bars are chill enough for people to put earbuds in and relax. This is why I wish toe_schnitzel as with me when I went face-to-face with the pooner. You would've walked around, puzzled by everything, licking the pool cues or something.

Minors cutting is upsetting to me. It's just not something I would make fun of them for or laugh at. Children are dumb and impressionable. You keep interchanging women/minors, which makes things difficult. But whatever. I agree w/ stopping self-harm. I'll go back to the trooners threads where the real intellectuals are.
Just fucking lurk more.
 
I asked for specifics on what they do that is worth shitting on them for. I got nothing back. The behavior you're now describing is what I was asking about to begin with.

Anyway, whatever. I'll just wait around for the toxic stuff.
Perhaps I missed where you said this, but what would you consider toxic behavior - or rather, what toxic behavior were you expecting to see in the thread? You seem able to identify the toxicity emitted from MTFs, so is it a matter of how extreme a behavior goes, social influence, etc.? Just wondering because pooner toxicity can get pretty intense, but it definitely expresses itself... less bombastically, I would say, compared to the sideshows that trannies are capable of.

Personally, I have no love lost for pooners in any way shape or form these days; my heart has frozen over and my patience is too thin to tolerate even the most pathetic of their lot. I used to be a lot more sympathetic towards them in the beginning, but I realized quickly that they are as venomous, manipulative, cult-like and predatory as any troon, so I now consider them nothing more than proud proponents (propoonents?) of cutting off one's own nose to spite their face.
The pooners in my life have ranged in whacked-out antisocial behavior, but the worst of the worst chose actually abusive men over other women and abused said heretical women further for "dissenting" against trans ideology to the point of sending actual hate mail.
Still, I understand the inclination to be gentler with them. Call me a softie, but if you can find it in your heart to sympathize with them, I can only wish I hadn't had the experiences I had so I could be nicer, too. But instead I'm posting on Kiwi Farms, so I'm basically a devil's reject, so whatever.

Anyway, I digress: thread tax time.

A TiF is unable to understand why a mother may feel that the daughter she raised is dead and gone and refuses to indulge her in any way, shape or form in terms of the loss that she carries.
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It finally happened

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Nine years. Nine years since I came out and started my transition and it finally happened. My mom finally sat me down and cried about how her daughter died and she didn’t get to grieve.
I came out in 2016 and was accepted with welcome arms. Of course my parents struggled a bit at first with the new name and pronouns but they were trying their best. Yeah, there was some misinformed fear mongering from them (dad said T would give me cancer lmao) but they learned and changed. Dad actually used to be super lgbt phobic and didn’t like that I wrote gay fanfic but when I came out he did a complete 180.
Well, today my mom sat me down and was crying saying that she never got to mourn the death of her daughter. When I was 17 I was hospitalised for eating disorders and was sent to a facility to get better. Mom told me that when I was there, [redacted] died and she never got to mourn her.
No one died. Yes, that’s my deadname but I didn’t die. She asked me if I’d be willing to do something to honour her and grieve for her. I told her no and she kinda started crying. I then told her that it’s more of a caterpillar and butterfly type situation. I didn’t die, I evolved. I metamorphosed.
I’m just bummed honestly. I’ve heard other guys say stuff like this about their parents but thought I was super lucky that it never happened to me. Well, nine years in and it did. I love my mom but this just hurts.
Not seeking advice, just needed to get this off my chest.
Somehow "gay men and gay culture is extremely phallocentric, so of course a woman is going to be unable to compete or survive in it" continues to be a shocking for the li'l doods of Reddit.
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My mum told me a gay man wouldn't be interested in me

I was talking to her about how I had a crush on a guy at my college and I said "I don't really think I have a chance with him though." And she fucking told me "of course you don't, you don't have a dick." (I don't remember the exact phraising but something along those lines.) And it's just stuck with me. Like I've always been worried that no gay man would want me because of my anatomy and it's just been making me feel just dysphoric and insecure.
Break out the tiny violins: a man tells his wife he doesn't like being fucked in the ass with a hunk of silicone and it absolutely devastates her, because that is a normal response for your wife to have.
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Guess I'm Never Topping Again

Last night, my husband finally admitted to me that he is no longer into "receiving", and I'm struggling.
Topping with a strap is my absolute favorite sexual activity,
but we hadn't done it in almost two years. This whole time, I've been agonizing that my changing body was the culprit behind the loss of interest in having me top (I've gained a lot of weight in the last three years). When I would get insecure, he'd comfort me and reassure me and show me he was still attracted to me, but there was always a different reason why he didn't want to bottom "that time".
I feel so fucking stupid to finally realize that he's just not into it anymore. And I'm devastated to learn that the last few times I topped, he was only doing it for my gender euphoria. He offered to bottom again because he didn't want to make me sad, but that somehow made it worse for me. To know that he was doing something he doesn't enjoy because he didn't want me to feel bad, just makes me feel gross for not realizing sooner that I've been the only interested party for years.
I get off on getting my partner off, so learning that he has zero motivation to bottom annihilates my interest in topping him. The whole appeal was that I want him to want me like that. It's not like I can feel it when I top, so what's the point if he's not even into it?
Where do I go from here? We've still got an active sex life, but now I'm having to accept that my favorite activities are forever off the table and not coming back. Not even my husband, my partner of 9 years, wants me like that again. And no one ever will.
 
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Sorry to double post, but I just realized I’d taken screen-caps of this chick in October.
I guess their marriage is back on?

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The only slight defense of this woman is that she had a pretty nice beard going way before T so maybe she did have some “gender dysphoria” going on. Doesn’t matter though, you still shouldn’t blow up your family to pursue a fantasy.
 
You didn't seem to understand that some bars are chill enough for people to put earbuds in and relax.
People that do this usually want to be left alone. That was my entire point.

And yes, children are dumb. So dumb that they post all their personal information on the internet. People encouraging them to expose themselves so completely usually have bad intentions.
 
Break out the tiny violins: a man tells his wife he doesn't like being fucked in the ass with a hunk of silicone and it absolutely devastates her, because that is a normal response for your wife to have.
Not even my husband, my partner of 9 years, wants me like that again. And no one ever will.
Plenty of guys out there into pegging, but most of them want to be pegged by a woman, not a lil dood, so yeah she is probably right there...

I don't get why people go into a relationship as one gender, expect to completely flip that around on their unsuspecting partner who didn't consent to dating a different gendered person, and then expect everything to go according to plan when it comes to sex and attraction. Your partner didn't agree to this initially, and you are coercing them to.

Also weren't we just talking about how sad it is to make fun of these women? This one wants to anally fuck her husband for her "gender euphoria" fetish, her husband is only doing it to make her happy despite not enjoying it. Oh no, how dare we make fun of these poor pooners. They're not like troons at all 🙄

The only slight defense of this woman is that she had a pretty nice beard going way before T so maybe she did have some “gender dysphoria” going on. Doesn’t matter though, you still shouldn’t blow up your family to pursue a fantasy.
She has a PCOS beard because she's fat. Testosterone will only fuck up her hormones more. I mean, at that point, fuck it, it'd be almost impossible to get rid of that thick of a PCOS beard. She'd have to lose A LOT of weight (doubtful) or get laser hair removal.

I guess she deleted that Dating Profile post? I can't find it in her profile. Also that "manly" haircut makes me laugh. She looks like a big old dyke.

Her coming out as trans and then trying to change her husbands sexuality to include her "male" gender is incredibly selfish. Giving troon levels of narcissism there.

Her posts read so girly, while having an avatar with a beard.


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The NYT slyly featured a BIG BOI in today's fitness article! A very STRONG BOI ! The progressive, heavily-moderated commenters also find her very inspiring (and are excruciatingly careful to avoid any pronouns, lol).


Aimee
NYCMarch 11
Love this model. Thank you for choosing to feature a person with a body type closer to what I encounter on a daily basis.

Ken
TucsonMarch 11
Good article! And nice to see performance by someone who does not look like an Olympic track star.

STLBBQ
EarthMarch 11
Great advice but the trainer is the real reason I would follow this! Finally somebody who looks like my body and can move. From all the husky folks thank you. As a 69 year old ex rugby player who does yoga/bike cardio and leaning forward jogging I will do these workouts. Thank you
 

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Love you all and I'm not the thread police, but I think we're tolerating the shenanigans of the obvious troon in the thread way too much. These people never stop talking about themselves and their versions of social interactions, they seethe at every slight (real or perceived) then insist they aren't, and eventually leave after trying too hard to get the last word. It's always the same.
 
Non-transitioning pooner is upset that her friends, including other non-transitioning trannies, have stopped respecting her pronouns now that she has started dating a straight man who sees her as a woman and will dump her "when" she transitions. Being demoted to the bottom of the progressive stack really bothers her too.

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Trans friends treating me like a cis woman

I’m so sick of it. That also comes with misogyny. Which is wild since 1 of the people is a trans man and the other 2 are trans women, 1 is cis.
I usually don’t care what pronouns people use for me nor what they call me, but after I started dating a guy in the friend group (yes, ik he sees me as a woman, we are expecting to breakup after Ill be finally able to medically transition) they started she/her-ing me constantly. At this point it’s been over a year, and it kind of settled down but not really. Calling me his girlfriend, which I stated multiple times I didn’t like. Using feminine terms and starting to call me “girl”.
I was having a small mental health crisis and freaked out a little (nothing major, just more erratic behaviour, getting scared/upset more easily) and I didn’t even get addresses directly. My transfem friend just turned to my bf and told him to “control his girl” after which I promptly told her to fuck off and stormed off.
I haven’t been able to start my transition, but only one person in the group has?? And everyone else gets respected. I even got called a “fujoshi” at one point - I don’t consume any romance on nsfw content. Idk where that comment came from. I’m continuously being called a white woman with 0 relevance. Most of the friend group is white!!!! It just feels like a more roundabout way of calling me a woman in yet another way!
And also “their favourite straight couple” and while I am not exactly binary, (agender) tbf it still pisses me off and I expressed this numerous times. I’m also planning on getting HRT and top. It’s not like I’m just comfortable as I am! And they know that!!!
It’s been a god damn year like this and ive started talking to them less and less. Only times we’ve been together longer - always led to some BS like that
It fucking pisses me off!! Why did they flip the switch like that?? I’ve only grown more resentful towards them as more time passed. What the fuck. I’ve never really interacted with the other MTF person, but she always seemed nice and the few times we talked - she hasn’t changed her behaviour and how she referred to me. So why did the two of them??
UGH IVE had this on my mind FOREVER and just writing it all out makes my blood boil even more.
 
The NYT slyly featured a BIG BOI in today's fitness article! A very STRONG BOI ! The progressive, heavily-moderated commenters also find her very inspiring (and are excruciatingly careful to avoid any pronouns, lol).


Aimee
NYCMarch 11
Love this model. Thank you for choosing to feature a person with a body type closer to what I encounter on a daily basis.

Ken
TucsonMarch 11
Good article! And nice to see performance by someone who does not look like an Olympic track star.

STLBBQ
EarthMarch 11
Great advice but the trainer is the real reason I would follow this! Finally somebody who looks like my body and can move. From all the husky folks thank you. As a 69 year old ex rugby player who does yoga/bike cardio and leaning forward jogging I will do these workouts. Thank you
It looks like a fat guy trying to do exercises a 7 year old girl would do in PE. Why are they pushing this shit, you could at least flex your muscles or do acrobatics or some shit. This reminds me of that fat black woman nike or some other sports brand used for their ads couple years ago, lady couldn't even run properly.
 
It looks like a fat guy trying to do exercises a 7 year old girl would do in PE. Why are they pushing this shit, you could at least flex your muscles or do acrobatics or some shit. This reminds me of that fat black woman nike or some other sports brand used for their ads couple years ago, lady couldn't even run properly.

These are exercises for people who are middle aged or in physical therapy, the "trainers" are not working with fit young people and don't need to maintain a good physique to be an example to their clients. In fact, it helps to be a tiny bit "pudgy" because someone recovering from a knee surgery or whatever is less likely to be resentful if they're not working with a gym bunny/rat, which in turn makes them more likely to stick to whatever kind of exercise regimen they're put on.

(2/3 of physical therapists are female, by the way...)
 
> Starts dating guy in "friend group"
> Other girls immediately start being catty

Oh no...what could POSSIBLY have prompted their totally random contempt? What do.

I totally suspect that was a situation where all the other pooners were low key using the one (non tranny) guy as communal male validation. Pooners are especially sensitive to that, it seems. They're pissed she's with him lmao
 
These are exercises for people who are middle aged or in physical therapy, the "trainers" are not working with fit young people and don't need to maintain a good physique to be an example to their clients. In fact, it helps to be a tiny bit "pudgy" because someone recovering from a knee surgery or whatever is less likely to be resentful if they're not working with a gym bunny/rat, which in turn makes them more likely to stick to whatever kind of exercise regimen they're put on.

(2/3 of physical therapists are female, by the way...)
From my experience as someone who has been a client to both, the older and/or slightly less fit trainers are just better at getting what a normie is looking to get out of exercise. Even when they mean well and genuinely want to help the gym bunny/rat seems almost imcapable of not showing off. Like taking seriously heavy weights to show you the exercise you will be doing with the beginners weights or doing the harder version of the exercise than they supposed to teach you. It's not inspirational, it's confusing and frustrating.

Dude this isn't your work out, it's mine. You aren't here get the sweat on, I am. You are here to help me to do it right and safely because I need that help. You can basically just stand around and criticize me as long as you are realistic about my current skill and fitness level.
 
People that do this usually want to be left alone. That was my entire point.
And when she abruptly announced her intention to do that, after a friendly 1-2 hour conversation, I left her alone. Nothing in my post indicated otherwise. She was thrown off that I found it inherently wrong to imitate the opposite sex and dupe heterosexual partners who are none the wiser. This hit her hard because that's what she'd done on her date earlier.

She can't say, "Well, actually, that's exactly what I do. I'm not a real man. And you're transphobic as FUCK!" It's also pretty tough to defend such an act, in my opinion. And I wasn't yelling about troons or something. I just gave a milquetoast recalling of my experience and how puzzling it was to me. But her face and vibe shift showed the palpable hurt/offense from my opinion. And it took the form of her abruptly shutting down, which I noticed and politely asked if I'd offended her. This is when I was realizing she's a pooner. She said everything is cool, nothing was offensive, but she wants to put her earbuds in now.

It wasn't because I was a bother or refusing to read signs, you donkey. And I don't see that as a polite, female social cue. The female behavior was her hurt from what I said, realizing someone she spent the last couple hours having beers with might actually be repulsed by the real "him." What I'm telling her is that I will never actually see her as a man who should date women without announcing she's not really a man. And from her POV, I clearly haven't clocked her. So how much can she defend such a thing?

How does this scenario play out, whether I clock her as a woman or not, without her coming off as gay? If I view her as a man like she wants, her defense of troon-trickery on Tinder indicates "he's" okay with chicks with dicks deceiving "him", indicative of homosexuality. She presents as a straight man, though. Conversely, if she admits that "he's" actually a she in defense of the trickery I referenced, she's forced to admit she's, 1) actually a lesbian herself, and 2) a proponent of the deceptive practices I just said I find unethical and shitty.

So, no, it really wasn't me being some drunk moron who kept bothering some poor gal. I don't think it was a standard female social cue, either. The earbud stuff right after, I saw as a woman taking advantage of presenting as a man because men will usually leave other men alone without needing a reason. It was an abrupt cutoff to avoid the chance of any revelations like above (unnecessary, though, since I could read her response and would've left her alone anyway).

To me, it was the same as her saying, "I mean, seriously, do I look like I'm the type to take shit from someone?" when describing how she really wanted to beat some dude up, but was on the clock. "I need to look tough and manly to be left alone, especially from males." Female projection of manliness to receive the benefits of being male.

These are examples of pooner behavior that I'd definitely consider toxic and worth shitting on them for, especially adults online who actively promote it to younger people and others. Not the earbud shit, but the "stealthing" deception that ignores other people's orientation (often in an attempt to run from the truth about their own).

I'm sure many in here have seen enough examples to offer better insight. It's possible nowhere near as many "transition" for the reasons I think, causing me to overlook tons of weirdo women and baby them by default. That is legitimately why I was asking for examples earlier, not to infantilize all of them like no women can be toxic or harmful or shitty on their own.

I'm not trying to keep childishly insulting or arguing with you. Just painting the actual scenario since I find it interesting. Have a good one.

Perhaps I missed where you said this, but what would you consider toxic behavior - or rather, what toxic behavior were you expecting to see in the thread? You seem able to identify the toxicity emitted from MTFs, so is it a matter of how extreme a behavior goes, social influence, etc.? Just wondering because pooner toxicity can get pretty intense, but it definitely expresses itself... less bombastically, I would say, compared to the sideshows that trannies are capable of.
For a general rubric, I'd say anything adults do that negatively influences kids, ignores the obvious harms of gender ideology as a whole, etc. I feel the same empathy for some MTF, too, though. Young boys who are transed by the ideology I speak of in schools, confused gay ones, etc. I don't give adults a pass once they're engaging in toxic behavior or ignoring the harms of what these legislative changes bring to society. My distinction is something like AGP's and adults laundering their fetishes through vs. those I see duped from being sold a panacea to why their lives are shitty.

Women cutting online and showing it off for attention should be admonished, especially when kids can see it. Women are as capable of being just as shitty as dudes, for sure. I'd never heard of pooners drugging people, which I obviously find super toxic. It's these things that I was curious about since I don't see that from MTF very often.
Still, I understand the inclination to be gentler with them. Call me a softie, but if you can find it in your heart to sympathize with them, I can only wish I hadn't had the experiences I had so I could be nicer, too. But instead I'm posting on Kiwi Farms, so I'm basically a devil's reject, so whatever.
I'm not gentler toward toxic behavior as the behavior stands on it's own. I just see a difference between the motivations known for why so many "transition" between M/F. Many "MTF" men are just perverts with wigs on due to the loopholes required for gender ideology. Examples like that and not women who are escaping womanhood are probably hugely present. It's not like the women who transition can't also do so for narcissistic reasons. Women's prisons have a lot more sexual violence between inmates than men's. The same male-mimicry that is used by some to ward off men can also be used to dominate and intimidate other women.
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I smell the stench of a funny lil dood.
You think I'm a pooner, dude? Seriously? You really wanna fuck with me, bro? If my transbian girlfriend didn't lock up my problem solver in an empty pickle jar, you'd be in for it, dude. I'm a big boy. A man, actually. A REAL ONE!
 
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Is there anything inherently negative about these girls worth making fun of or getting pissed at?
Pooners are insane fetishists too. My opinion on them completely changed when I saw one playing around with packers on YouTube. I bet the only reason they don't sexually assault men is because they're too small and weak. Sure, there are poons who self-deleted their sexuality because someone touched them, but you can't deny AAP fujos exist and aren't gross too.
 
Pooners are insane fetishists too. My opinion on them completely changed when I saw one playing around with packers on YouTube. I bet the only reason they don't sexually assault men is because they're too small and weak. Sure, there are poons who self-deleted their sexuality because someone touched them, but you can't deny AAP fujos exist and aren't gross too.
I'm not denying anything, mang. I legitimately looked at a bunch of random pages ITT and most were laughing at pooners for the normal shit they'd fail at being "men." I'm saying I am clearly in the dark on the reasons and it obviously came off like denying those reasons exist.

I have no idea what "packers" or "AAP fujos" are. Pooner AGP? I'd heard a lot of them are pooning out and watching gay male porn, which is something I hadn't heard before. This is the stuff I knew would exist so thanks. I'll search on here. BTW, is there a thread-specific search option built-in to KF?
 
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