Plagued /r/TNOmod and the Reddit HOI4 modding community - When a subreddit for a video game mod turns to utter insanity

[Grave Ghost]

I can't remember the last time TNO was mentioned on this thread so here's an interesting thread from the subreddit, what do you think is the most LGBT friendly state in Russia? - https://www.reddit.com/r/TNOmod/comments/1j8vnu8/most_lgbt_friendly_state_in_russia/

Remember when the Italy rework was just around the corner?

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

Remember when the Italy rework was just around the corner?

It was back in 2021. We used to get round the clock teasers and updates until suddenly it just...didn't release. No idea wtf happened.

 

[Ryona420]

Actually what the fuck did happen? They don't even post updates anymore on their sub as far as I can see.

 

[NvII iS 8ulLt f0R 88C]

Also Crusades are now either 10 year forever wars or Catholic death stacks of 60k levies gunning for Cairo/Jerusalem.

Wasn't that basically the case for the 1st crusade? (Despite being stuck at Antioch for 8 months).

 

[Sooty Soot]

If there's one thing I dislike about TFR, it's the moeshittery and all the Long March/Loji/TFRchan stuff. Case and point. There's a certain threshold where you should tolerate this kind of stuff, but TFR's crossed it a long time ago, particularly with that weird TFRchan art posted in this thread a dozen pages or so back. If things are headed where they're headed, TFR might not end up like TNO but it will certainly end up with "muh wayfu"-posting and porn of these characters.

 

[thefreshmaker]

Wasn't that basically the case for the 1st crusade? (Despite being stuck at Antioch for 8 months).

Yes, but not really.

They were usually drawn out affairs with a few thousand, possibly tens of thousands of knights and retainers hanging around a town for a year, going on a raid or conquest in Spring, and then back to waiting around. CK2/3 portrays it as a 10 year long total war.

 

[Enginig Gaming]

Speaking from personal experience, one reason minor nations get more attention than they should is that mod developers usually come in and work on nations they want to. Either because they have a personal interest in that tag, or it's a meme (see troono's Fiji tree). I never touched Red Flood again after they released with a broken unfinished USA tree, but a full tree for Prussian Congo. I'll give KRG this, at least they pushed out content for relatively important nations before anything else.

I strongly suspect for mods with bloated development teams, the only tags getting done in a realistic timeframe are mods. Even then, devs still have to write essays on DEEP LORE and justify every political path with a graduate thesis.

Paradox focus trees are trash, always have been, always will be. The mechanics were always of most interest to me, even if some of they really should be in the base game and some of them are just bloat. For Rises Again, I didn't even bother implementing MIOs and equipment designers for tanks and planes. The last thing TNO needs is more buttons to click

>For Rises Again, I didn't even bother implementing MIOs and equipment designers for tanks and planes. The last thing TNO needs is more buttons to click
It´s over you will never be able to make your Apcs design be "The Dirwer Machine" and Achieve Total Russian Death with 10 kh Base speed or MIO giving you +20 stab for abolishing Rascismus.
At least we are getting Antartica by 2030 right?

 

[Enginig Gaming]

If there's one thing I dislike about TFR, it's the moeshittery and all the Long March/Loji/TFRchan stuff. Case and point. There's a certain threshold where you should tolerate this kind of stuff, but TFR's crossed it a long time ago, particularly with that weird TFRchan art posted in this thread a dozen pages or so back. If things are headed where they're headed, TFR might not end up like TNO but it will certainly end up with "muh wayfu"-posting and porn of these characters.
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Fake niggas don´t go full force and making her Touhou project themed (If you see Bilibili you will understant this) and instead go generic moe shit oh well at least it makes them more money than GOE Crap paradox luanched.

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

New interesting content for France in TFR, looks like you'll be able to invade Germany




There's also frankish larpers

https://www.reddit.com/r/TheFireRisesMod/comments/1jb4gar/allons_enfants_de_la_patrie/

I'm assuming that you can backstab the germans after you win the second euro war (and after losing the first one) because almost all the territorial gains in Russia and Eastern Europe go to them while you get nothong, kinda like IRL Italy after WW1

 

[ShittlerNiggler]

If there's one thing I dislike about TFR, it's the moeshittery and all the Long March/Loji/TFRchan stuff. Case and point. There's a certain threshold where you should tolerate this kind of stuff, but TFR's crossed it a long time ago, particularly with that weird TFRchan art posted in this thread a dozen pages or so back. If things are headed where they're headed, TFR might not end up like TNO but it will certainly end up with "muh wayfu"-posting and porn of these characters.
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That's the vtuber AI taking control of China in one of it's paths. I like the weebshit since there are way to much "hurr durr our mod is 1000% serious, look at my live novel" fags in the modding community.

 

[Corpun]

Wasn't that basically the case for the 1st crusade? (Despite being stuck at Antioch for 8 months).

Not really. First Crusade was really only a success because it was at the right time for taking advantage of Muslim infighting in the Levant. It's why once Saladin consolidated control the Ayyubids basically folded the Crusaders over the course of 50 years.

Yes, but not really.

They were usually drawn out affairs with a few thousand, possibly tens of thousands of knights and retainers hanging around a town for a year, going on a raid or conquest in Spring, and then back to waiting around. CK2/3 portrays it as a 10 year long total war.

CK2 has a massive levy problem too. One of the only things CK3 improved on even though I despise how they changed it. Realistically, half those medieval states cannot muster 60k death stacks. It wouldn't be so bad if North Africa was more developed as it was historically to counter some random duke with 1.4k levies from conquering Tunis.

And yes, I am aware of the brief Christian occupation of Tunis and other ports in North Africa in this period.

 

[Uranium Sundae]

What do Kiwis think of the TNO soundtrack?
I think the fact that it barely gets talked about, both positively and negatively, sums it more than any substantial post would. I kind of get what theme the later tracks were going for, but they do not sound pleasant to listen to at all. Burgundian Lullaby and Toolbox Theory are still solid for a niche mod.

 

[I_Lurk_Here]

What do Kiwis think of the TNO soundtrack?
I think the fact that it barely gets talked about, both positively and negatively, sums it more than any substantial post would. I kind of get what theme the later tracks were going for, but they do not sound pleasant to listen to at all. Burgundian Lullaby and Toolbox Theory are still solid for a niche mod.

TBH I really like it. It would be cool for more mods to get their own OSTs.

 

[Radola Gajda]

I want to add one thing to the topic of homosexuality in TNO Russia. Outside all other things already mentioned. There is fact that every Warlord is going to be busy trying to reunify Russia and rebuilding . So I doubt they will be wasting time dealing with such non issue as homosexuality in 1960s Russia

 

[Coberald]

TFR's France update is out

Spoiler: Changelog

THE FIRE RISES - v1.0.6 “Impossible n'est pas Français”

COMMON:
- Added New Mechanic for Unique Government Types
- Intelligence Agencies Rework
- New Country Selection Menu!!!

FRANCE:
- Added new flavor events for pre-war France.
- Added in 9 new political branches for French nationalists
- Added 6 new political branches for French communists
- Added new focuses for every possible 2022 electoral candidate
- Added in 3rd European War content
- Added in accurate French Naval Variants
- Added in French Ship name templates
- Fixed French Communist Economic and Military Tree
- Added in over 500 new GFX for France
- Portrait uplift for France

RUSSIA:
- CPRF PATH:
- Added Grudinin
- Added Pasechnik
- UNITED RUSSIA PATH:
- Added Surkov
- LDPR PATH:
- Added Okhlobystin
- Added Russian Nationalists
- Added Kurginyan
- Expanded Monarchist Path
-Added New Focuses For Restore October Manifesto Path
-Added New Focuses For Samoderzhavie Path
- Expanded Slutsky's Election Winners
-Added Pushilin As a Possible Candidate

GERMANY:
- COMMUNIST PATH (Post-2EW)
- Added Left Accelerationist Path
- Added National-Communist Path

CHINA:
- Reworked Post-GAW China Collapse
- Second Chinese Civil War (DEMO)
- Thermonuclear Bombing of Japan and other Nuke-Related content...
- Big rebalance of offensives in the GAW
- Big changes to Nationalist focuses, reworked Operation Wu Qi

INDIA:
- GAW focus tree (AI only)
- Indian Civil War Skeleton
- Ability to turn the Indo-Pakistani War into a nuclear phase (also available for Pakistan)
- Small changes to the Indian sphere after the victory of the PDTO in the GAW
- India now withdraws from PDTO after PDTO's victory in the GAW and creates its own alliance

JAPAN:
- A lot of new events

OVERALL USA:
- Focus descriptions and event localization for various 2ACW factions

UNION OF AMERICA:
- Small Biden Uplift

OTHER MINOR FIXES AND CHANGES:
-Too many to remember.

 

[Sooty Soot]

TFR's France update is out

Spoiler: Changelog

THE FIRE RISES - v1.0.6 “Impossible n'est pas Français”

COMMON:
- Added New Mechanic for Unique Government Types
- Intelligence Agencies Rework
- New Country Selection Menu!!!

FRANCE:
- Added new flavor events for pre-war France.
- Added in 9 new political branches for French nationalists
- Added 6 new political branches for French communists
- Added new focuses for every possible 2022 electoral candidate
- Added in 3rd European War content
- Added in accurate French Naval Variants
- Added in French Ship name templates
- Fixed French Communist Economic and Military Tree
- Added in over 500 new GFX for France
- Portrait uplift for France

RUSSIA:
- CPRF PATH:
- Added Grudinin
- Added Pasechnik
- UNITED RUSSIA PATH:
- Added Surkov
- LDPR PATH:
- Added Okhlobystin
- Added Russian Nationalists
- Added Kurginyan
- Expanded Monarchist Path
-Added New Focuses For Restore October Manifesto Path
-Added New Focuses For Samoderzhavie Path
- Expanded Slutsky's Election Winners
-Added Pushilin As a Possible Candidate

GERMANY:
- COMMUNIST PATH (Post-2EW)
- Added Left Accelerationist Path
- Added National-Communist Path

CHINA:
- Reworked Post-GAW China Collapse
- Second Chinese Civil War (DEMO)
- Thermonuclear Bombing of Japan and other Nuke-Related content...
- Big rebalance of offensives in the GAW
- Big changes to Nationalist focuses, reworked Operation Wu Qi

INDIA:
- GAW focus tree (AI only)
- Indian Civil War Skeleton
- Ability to turn the Indo-Pakistani War into a nuclear phase (also available for Pakistan)
- Small changes to the Indian sphere after the victory of the PDTO in the GAW
- India now withdraws from PDTO after PDTO's victory in the GAW and creates its own alliance

JAPAN:
- A lot of new events

OVERALL USA:
- Focus descriptions and event localization for various 2ACW factions

UNION OF AMERICA:
- Small Biden Uplift

OTHER MINOR FIXES AND CHANGES:
-Too many to remember.

Time for my 3rd National Socialist Germany run to BTFO the French

 

[EpicGamerMoment]

TFR's France update is out

Spoiler: Changelog

THE FIRE RISES - v1.0.6 “Impossible n'est pas Français”

COMMON:
- Added New Mechanic for Unique Government Types
- Intelligence Agencies Rework
- New Country Selection Menu!!!

FRANCE:
- Added new flavor events for pre-war France.
- Added in 9 new political branches for French nationalists
- Added 6 new political branches for French communists
- Added new focuses for every possible 2022 electoral candidate
- Added in 3rd European War content
- Added in accurate French Naval Variants
- Added in French Ship name templates
- Fixed French Communist Economic and Military Tree
- Added in over 500 new GFX for France
- Portrait uplift for France

RUSSIA:
- CPRF PATH:
- Added Grudinin
- Added Pasechnik
- UNITED RUSSIA PATH:
- Added Surkov
- LDPR PATH:
- Added Okhlobystin
- Added Russian Nationalists
- Added Kurginyan
- Expanded Monarchist Path
-Added New Focuses For Restore October Manifesto Path
-Added New Focuses For Samoderzhavie Path
- Expanded Slutsky's Election Winners
-Added Pushilin As a Possible Candidate

GERMANY:
- COMMUNIST PATH (Post-2EW)
- Added Left Accelerationist Path
- Added National-Communist Path

CHINA:
- Reworked Post-GAW China Collapse
- Second Chinese Civil War (DEMO)
- Thermonuclear Bombing of Japan and other Nuke-Related content...
- Big rebalance of offensives in the GAW
- Big changes to Nationalist focuses, reworked Operation Wu Qi

INDIA:
- GAW focus tree (AI only)
- Indian Civil War Skeleton
- Ability to turn the Indo-Pakistani War into a nuclear phase (also available for Pakistan)
- Small changes to the Indian sphere after the victory of the PDTO in the GAW
- India now withdraws from PDTO after PDTO's victory in the GAW and creates its own alliance

JAPAN:
- A lot of new events

OVERALL USA:
- Focus descriptions and event localization for various 2ACW factions

UNION OF AMERICA:
- Small Biden Uplift

OTHER MINOR FIXES AND CHANGES:
-Too many to remember.

What’s the “3rd European War” and how do you activate it

 

[Toji Suzuhara]

What’s the “3rd European War” and how do you activate it

So, if you lose the first Euro war to either commie or LDPR Russia, and win the second Euro war as France, you'll be able to betray Germany and attack them alongside with the britbongs. Basically it's France and Britain VS The germans and their puppets

 

[foreman 89]

In the mod, is there any way to influence European politics that are not directly related to the Russian wars, for example if say you pick Le Pen and win the first war and then the 2nd war as her France, does that allow you to pick one of the nationalist leaders or are you railroaded into the federal neoliberal EU path?

 

[Sooty Soot]

In the mod, is there any way to influence European politics that are not directly related to the Russian wars, for example if say you pick Le Pen and win the first war and then the 2nd war as her France, does that allow you to pick one of the nationalist leaders or are you railroaded into the federal neoliberal EU path?

I'm not sure but judging by the fact that as Germany you can invoke Article 50 and straight up leave the EU if you win the 1EW I think you'd be able to.