Are LGB as bad as the T?

[Catfag #9000]

I mean it is true in the sense chasers are kind of weird in their own way but this is also a cope. You don't want to be associated with them, I get it. But it's pure copium. If they're chasing dick, that's faggotry. And specifically it's usually bisexuals.

You can call them Bisexuals and use buzzwords like 'faggotry' to refer to them but they're not homo and never will be. There is no "half-gay" I would not fuck a guy whos only into men as a fetish, that's insulting (they wouldnt want to anyhow because these types are always into femboys and tgirls. their brains tell them they like women after all). I have fetishes like anyone else but men is not one of them, it is simply my nature, or my initial programming in my own personal autism wording.

You talk about "true and honest" femboy enjoyers and "fake and NOT gay" ones, as if there is any inherent moral value difference in gooning until you like dick and not knowing why you like dick.

There is no 'moral difference'. I'm no moralfag. I just personally wish to be recognized separately from perverts and trannies. A perfect world is one in which I can FUCK MEN AND ABSOLUTLEY NOBODY CARES. My social life stays intact, I don't get fired, sex pests dont pretend to relate to my struggles, people dont compare me to said sex pests, but I sometimes wonder if it's an unrealisitc expectation to want all of these. Probably. I think I'm getting spergy on the internet again.

Tho, to not be misunderstood in my last statement on that, I do fully believe you are different from those tranny/femboy/whatever enjoyers, because you are an individual which just happens to like men more than women - in most or almost all cases. But it is very weird that you need to have a "group" of "real" gay guys, which exclude everything you don't approve of or like, when to most people gay really just means "men fucking men" after all. It does very much seem to be a group identity which sets very specific requirements in your mind.

I appreciate that. Liking monogamy and maturity and not liking the alphabet soup ideology thins the herd significantly. gay people are fucking weird. The 'group of real gays' is just the ones who didnt have to be reprogrammed into it, never said they couldnt be delusional fucked up weirdos too. I only find others like me in reality.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

You're meant to be frustrated and dissatisfied on purpose, because you'll never be the opposite and it's nigh impossible to realistically emulate all facets of the opposite sex. It makes people weak-willed and desperate. I kind of have an inkling the same thing has been attempted to the LGB, though in a more abstract way, probably on purpose too.

I'd argue that the dissatisfaction isn't a psyop that's being inflicted upon gays -- it's inherent to the medium, same as for troons if to a lesser extent. It's very hard for a samesex relationship to be more than the sum of its parts because there's nothing you can make from them; you meet a guy, you shag, and then there are no more frontiers left to conquer.

I also find it weird how you assume that your sexuality is "from birth", while some guy discovering femboys is almost automatically a pornbrained coomer to you.
You talk about "true and honest" femboy enjoyers and "fake and NOT gay" ones, as if there is any inherent moral value difference in gooning until you like dick and not knowing why you like dick.
See the issue there? To me those are all gay. Maybe the gooner just gooned himself into a higher self-awareness of his already in-born femboy-enjoyer-dom?

It's got nothing to do with morals or optics. The difference between career homosexuals & bisexuals/people who have coomed themselves into switching teams is that the latter group have -- at some point in their lives -- experienced attraction to the opposite sex. That might seem like an arbitrary point of distinction, because the mechanisms of attraction are very similar, but it makes a big difference in how deeply entrenched the pathology is. If these people quit porn & hookups they'd (in theory) gravitate naturally towards a state of functional sexuality.

A perfect world is one in which I can FUCK MEN AND ABSOLUTLEY NOBODY CARES.

Yeah um good luck. I don't mean that in a malicious sense. People find gayness (even sensible, monogamous gayness) intrinsically gross for reasons that are difficult to understand if you've never had the chance to conceptualise it from a straight perspective.

 

[truth_seeker]

That list was really useful to see because I've heard women being told that it's normal to use the 'other hole' in straight sex nowadays (I've heard this brought up casually in places that aren't about sex at all). Such a dangerous thing shouldn't be normalized.

Anal sex and even oral were all fringe activities until the advent of Jewish hardcore pornography which started to rot male brains and normalise harmful sexual practices being demanded in the bedroom. I’ve seen passport bros complain because when they go to Asian countries many of the women are disgusted by the idea of being anally penetrated or giving a blowjob. Muslims, traditional Christian denominations and even Hindus and Buddhists have always considered it disgusting and deviant because it biologically and instinctively is.

So, you don't like anal sex and find it disgusting, I do agree with that, but what has that to with gays specifically? Just outlaw that then.
But I already know why you didn't say that...

At least 90% of gays engage in anal sex.
the other 10% have probably already ruptured their rectums, suffer from anal prolapse and have to wear diapers to save themselves when shitting their pants due to fecal incontinence, so can’t participate in it anymore.

And oral sex amongst fags isn’t any better.
…oral sex has an important role in sustaining gonorrhea in a population of MSM by providing a pool of untreated asymptomatic infection.
“Oral and Anal Sex Are Key to Sustaining Gonorrhoea at Endemic Levels in MSM Populations: A Mathematical Model”
B Hui, et al.
Sex Transm Infect 91 (5), 365-369. 2015 Jan 16.

This isn‘t mentioning the faeces and urine fetishes.

but that isn’t even the main problem, it’s the absolute unhinged promiscuity that is. Because these people then go on to perform these deviant sexual acts at mass piss orgies and spread diseases or even in the process create new superviral stds . According to this 2000’s study, gay men between the ages of 35-39 had a median number of lifetime partners (67) nearly 6 times as high as as their straight counterparts (12).

this is an inherent part of gay culture and has always been. Since most of them have no moral or societal obligation to settle down and physically can’t start a family they engage in promiscuity and hedonism. When they do start families the ones who can afford it buy the babies from poor women and deprive the babies of their mothers and molest them.

 

[FarmEnjoyer]

this is an inherent part of gay culture and has always been

Thats why when people above are saying they would be gay without butt stuff it makes no sense.

It's an inherent part of gayness to to get shit on your dick.

You can't just remove the bad part because it doesn't fit your argument.

 

[オプセック]

Thats why when people above are saying they would be gay without butt stuff it makes no sense.

It's an inherent part of gayness to to get shit on your dick.

You can't just remove the bad part because it doesn't fit your argument.

Yeah, ok, but what about all the straight people pissing on each other and fucking their girlfriends in the butt?
If 90% of gays do it, but even just 10% don't, one might reason, that being gay might just be a vehicle for nasty sex for most, and not even about the - to me still more bizarre - "Can't and won't do women" -issue. It may really be that we are looking at a plethora of completely different people for which the "gay" label really isn't sufficient as a grouping.

And since most are bothered about STDs and the nasty aspect of butt stuff, what do about "straight" people doing it?

That might seem like an arbitrary point of distinction, because the mechanisms of attraction are very similar, but it makes a big difference in how deeply entrenched the pathology is.

No, not at all, that's why I don't think framing homosexuals as "inverts" and shit like that is correct.
I think that's where all the psycho-torture of days past went wrong in concept,
the question isn't why they like butt-stuff and guys, many guys do (prisons, the navy, thailand regulars, blabla),
but why some poor sods (no offense) don't like women - like at all?
I'm still somewhat convinced it's the identity issue, if you told everyone you're gay and can't change it since you were an obstinate teen and everyone of TV says so too, how much do you socially loose by suddenly going straight? The whole tranny thing and how they treat feminists and detranses made me think this might also apply to the rest of the LGB-soup... I does seem to be a re-occurring cross cultural phenomena that younger guys have sexual relations with older ones, but NEVER ever do you hear of this homo-for-life "can't do women, na-uh" narrative from antiquity.
And I don't think you can torture someone into liking something, besides the torture itself, I guess - but that's going off-topic and kinda dark.

 

[Anomalous Coward]

this is an inherent part of gay culture and has always been

Sorry, this is just moid culture. All men would do this if women would allow it.

 

[オプセック]

Sorry, this is just moid culture. All men would do this if women would allow it.

And there's more than you think, who do. I'm always baffled by the state of the farms when it comes to spicy topics like these...

 

[NoodleFucker3000]

As a homosexual woman I don't see how my having sexual relationships with a woman is somehow worse than any man having sexual relationships with a woman. I can absolutely condemn a lot of the wrong think political movements and karenism, but at the base of it I don't see how my love for women actually impedes anyone else's life.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

Sorry, this is just moid culture. All men would do this if women would allow it.

No, they wouldn't.

As a homosexual woman I don't see how my having sexual relationships with a woman is somehow worse than any man having sexual relationships with a woman. I can absolutely condemn a lot of the wrong think political movements and karenism, but at the base of it I don't see how my love for women actually impedes anyone else's life.

It doesn't, but your very existence is offensive to them. You could be a saint, but most users here would call for your death simply because you dared to sleep with a woman once and thus destroyed the sanctity of their precious ideas about sexual relations. Don't seek reason in a discussion where saying increasingly heinous shit is the general rule.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

the question isn't why they like butt-stuff and guys, many guys do (prisons, the navy, thailand regulars, blabla),
but why some poor sods (no offense) don't like women - like at all?

Some combination of genetic predisposition and an atypical model of male-male relationships internalised during childhood, probably. I don't quite buy the idea that some people are born with a flipped gene that makes them irreversibly homosexual from day one; it runs counter to basically everything we know about human sexuality. You can definitely get your shit messed up early and have it become deeply ingrained in your psyche, however.

The problem is that gays don't really know what to do with women (intimately, I mean, not clothes shopping). They need to be the desired half of the relationship or it doesn't fulfill anything.

This might be a crackbrained take, but I think the vessel you inhabit has something to do with it. There's a reason the twink phenotype is so ubiquitous among younger homos -- if you're sixfour and built like a fridge, the attraction is a lot harder to justify. (Not that being a babyfaced lanklet alone is grounds for fagging out. It takes a little more to start catching feelings for other men.)

People do de-gay. It's probably easier to figure out once you pass the young & desirable phase, but I'll get back to you in five to ten years on that one.

I'm still somewhat convinced it's the identity issue, if you told everyone you're gay and can't change it since you were an obstinate teen and everyone of TV says so too, how much do you socially loose by suddenly going straight?

That's a valid point. Exgays catch a lot of flack from both sides of the aisle now for reasons good & bad.

 

[Catboi]

Some combination of genetic predisposition and an atypical model of male-male relationships internalised during childhood, probably. I don't quite buy the idea that some people are born with a flipped gene that makes them irreversibly homosexual from day one; it runs counter to basically everything we know about human sexuality. You can definitely get your shit messed up early and have it become deeply ingrained in your psyche, however.

If a gay gene really existed we would have actually discovered it by now and leftists would use it in every argument.

I think like all paraphilias you can have a predisposition to like something but you can work on healthier sexual attitudes and behaviours.

 

[truth_seeker]

As a homosexual woman I don't see how my having sexual relationships with a woman is somehow worse than any man having sexual relationships with a woman. I can absolutely condemn a lot of the wrong think political movements and karenism, but at the base of it I don't see how my love for women actually impedes anyone else's life.

‘As an incestsexual woman I don’t see how my having sexual relationships with my sister is somehow worse than any man having sexual relationships with a woman. I can absolutely condemn a lot of the wrong think political movements and karenism, but at the base of it I don’t see how my love for my sister actually impedes anyone else’s life.’

Consent based morality has and always will be fucking retarded.

 

[FarmEnjoyer]

‘As an incestsexual woman I don’t see how my having sexual relationships with my sister is somehow worse than any man having sexual relationships with a woman. I can absolutely condemn a lot of the wrong think political movements and karenism, but at the base of it I don’t see how my love for my sister actually impedes anyone else’s life.’

Consent based morality has and always will be fucking retarded.

True and well said!

These people are clueless and will do anything to grasp and defend their degenerate ways

I wonder how many DV incidents this person has been in that OP.

I'm gunna guess at least 5.

Also for the fags/lesbos - what would you do if everyone woke up gay tomorrow? You realize the species would end?

 

[ToEnsureVerification]

I can only speak from experience. LGB are okay and even nice to talk to, when it comes to topics outside their sexuality. @Vingle is cool and smart, but Jesus dude, I didn't need to see your chode. I've only had one (1) pleasant conversation with an mtf troon. He was not a programmer troon and he was a bit older. Programmer or STEM troons are the worst, I can't even say they were pleasant to be around or nice to talk to in a chit-chat way.

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

No, because a homosexual will never force you to fuck them to be a homosexual. He will continue being a homosexual with/without external validation.
Lesbians don't do the same with women, and the same for bisexuals.

 

[Flame War Vet]

T is definately worse. But LGB is already so awful that it doesn't matter.
It's like they say:
>If I have to choose between two evils I prefer not to choose at all.

 

[Not 6 Foot]

Yeah, ok, but what about all the straight people pissing on each other and fucking their girlfriends in the butt?

Real talk, all of this stuff (anything that isn't traditional PIV penetration, really) is considered deviant by society-at-large. The only thing that's even slightly considered normal, now, is oral sex and that's mostly because 80s 90s and 2000s public school sexual education encouraged it, at least in the US. The internet would have you believe differently, of course, but you can rest assured that anal sex is, most definitely, disgusting to the vast majority of the world's population.

 

[NoodleFucker3000]

‘As an incestsexual woman I don’t see how my having sexual relationships with my sister is somehow worse than any man having sexual relationships with a woman. I can absolutely condemn a lot of the wrong think political movements and karenism, but at the base of it I don’t see how my love for my sister actually impedes anyone else’s life.’

Consent based morality has and always will be fucking retarded.

If you can't see how there's a vast difference between rape (that usually victimizes children and the mentally disabled) and being gay you should go take a look at the CWC boards or the Grace Thorpe thread. Both are heterosexual instances of incestuous abuse.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

Yes.

 

[Doktor Grimm]

Also for the fags/lesbos - what would you do if everyone woke up gay tomorrow? You realize the species would end?

No? We aren't infertile