Tamers12345 - Autistic Sonic and Bartleby Shipper and Video Maker

[Treatlerite]

I will return to this thread with SU thoughts when I sift through all the recommendations (Ig I'll have to get them off of the archive since his main channel is still gone). Just finished the latest ep.

Anybody else noticing the amount of OCs are slowly outnumbering the "canon" characters in these? Is that a staple of Tamers in the Sonic series too? I remember when Flawless was introduced there was an entire meta bit with Rainbow and Pinkie where they made fun of the concept of derailing a parody series with a "super stronk donut steal!!1" character and it was very funny. Now it's happened unironically like 2 more times.

The fanmade song was so fucking godawful, like not even in a charming way. The most I can give this episode is that it was funnier than the last few, especially the after credits. I could sperg further but I don't think there's a need.

 

[Ensi]

Anybody else noticing the amount of OCs are slowly outnumbering the "canon" characters in these? Is that a staple of Tamers in the Sonic series too? I remember when Flawless was introduced there was an entire meta bit with Rainbow and Pinkie where they made fun of the concept of derailing a parody series with a "super stronk donut steal!!1" character and it was very funny. Now it's happened unironically like 2 more times.

Earlier in the thread, there was some parasocial retard that has attached himself to Tamers I think at this post (https://kiwifarms.net/threads/tamers12345.17056/post-20737398) so I wouldn't be shocked that these faggots are inserting their gay pony OC

 

[No Bitches Syndrome(NBS)]

Spoiler: episode sperging

The "Flawless, but now it's a depressed a gay clown" shit is pretty stupid. He looks dumb, there's more magic creation bullshit that I don't want to think about. I don't care about Apple Bottom, his voice is annoying, he's annoying. Care Package's backstory and whole deal is carrying the whole faggot plotline along, otherwise I want to go back to seeing Rarity being broke and Twilight being a sperg. I rewatched Sonic takes Bartleby to the Goodwill the other day and I got whiplash at how tiring the faggot melodrama is compared to seeing Flora getting spanked. I like the smoker dad that was introduced in the backstory, hope this isn't the last we see of him. Overall way better than the disorienting mess that was death of trixie

The fanmade song was so fucking godawful, like not even in a charming way.

Hearing dBPony(?)'s voice was easily the worst part of the whole thing, he sounds like ass how does he have fans

 

[ASeabear8952]

Surprise, surprise. It was fucking awful. Care Package(?) watching Boobah was like the only good part. That’s classic Tamers. These ponies are literally only gay for the sake of being gay.

And now for some funny shit from Tamers in the chat before the premiere:

 

[Enig]

Cybershell was right, letting tamers get exposure just made him go full uppity retard. They're not even good "tab in every few minutes in some random cytube room to check" videos any more, it's just straight up gay anime soap opera fart porn with less and less humor as it goes on.

 

[No Bitches Syndrome(NBS)]

letting tamers get exposure just made him go full uppity retard.

His paid patreon subscribers multiplied several fold over the span of a couple months. Suddenly he goes from "a small creator that makes a little bit of money and a few people enjoy online" to what most likely amounts to a six figure salary and a community which is very friendly towards people who share their autistic obsession with cartoon horses. A stack of cash and friends is enough to change just about anyone. I wouldn't make it out to be a personal failing.

 

[Sneak 'n' Snore]

Anybody else noticing the amount of OCs are slowly outnumbering the "canon" characters in these? Is that a staple of Tamers in the Sonic series too?

In Sonic Underground Tamers kept it almost entirely to characters from that show, no matter how brief or obscure their original appearance was, or occasionally characters from entirely different media.
Not counting human background or one-off characters, the only OCs he created are extensions for pre-existing characters like Bartleby's parents or Kevin the Hedgehog.

 

[Dickinson's Real Deal]

Anyone else think about how this nigga's now 30 and he's making this shit? I don't mean SU because that's ageless and timeless, but it says something that his MLP stuff has sparked speculation ITT that he has a fujo ghostwriter. Get it together, Tamers

 

[Treatlerite]

Uhh bros???
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It's been very funny (though also depressing) going back in the thread to find the ground zero of when the ponies started. Everybody was so open minded back then, lmao

Also to answer the question @The Cringe Connoisseur asked a bit back, I think Tamers works best with "simple" cartoons that have easily recognizable characters and open ended worldbuilding. I could see a few Looney Tunes based shorts (or Tiny Toons, though I get the heebie jeebies from it) working great in his style.

EDIT: And the Super Mario Bros. cartoon. Can't believe that didn't come to mind first.

 

[LuminescentFart]

what most likely amounts to a six figure salary

Eh I doubt it's anywhere close to that high. Even with how many patrons he has now the vast majority are going to be on the lowest tier of $3, and of the just under 4000 people on his patreon, only about a fourth are actually paying members. That's still a good fucking chunk of money, but nowhere close to 6 figures. He'll probably make like $30-40k a year at the absolute most.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

I saw this meme on 4chan's /lit/ board recently and it made me think of Tamers. In fact I think he's used at least three of these in this SU videos.

Spoiler: The Anti-Bechdel-Wallace Test

 

[No Bitches Syndrome(NBS)]

Eh I doubt it's anywhere close to that high. Even with how many patrons he has now the vast majority are going to be on the lowest tier of $3, and of the just under 4000 people on his patreon, only about a fourth are actually paying members. That's still a good fucking chunk of money, but nowhere close to 6 figures. He'll probably make like $30-40k a year at the absolute most.

You just pinned "everyone is on the lowest possible paid tier" as the absolute most at 30k a year, which isn't even possible(927 * 3 * 12 = ~33000). He only needs a small proportion of higher-tier patrons to bump that way higher, which he probably has given that he doesn't lock (much) content behind his patreon. People who donate are only donating because they want to, not for a reward, which implies a willingness to give more than the bare minimum.

 

[COME ON OUT YOU RAPIST]

People who donate are only donating because they want to, not for a reward

Technically you need to donate if you want to appear in the credit reel. This wasn't always the case. It probably explains why there's suddenly so many paying subscribers.

 

[LuminescentFart]

You just pinned "everyone is on the lowest possible paid tier" as the absolute most at 30k a year, which isn't even possible(927 * 3 * 12 = ~33000). He only needs a small proportion of higher-tier patrons to bump that way higher, which he probably has given that he doesn't lock (much) content behind his patreon. People who donate are only donating because they want to, not for a reward, which implies a willingness to give more than the bare minimum.

I said 30-40k as in somewhere between those two not a specific number. 33k is between 30k and 40k. There's definitely going to be some willing to donate more, I know I was, but the majority of people just want to be in the credits.

I'd also like to add this isn't taking into account how much Patreon takes as a cut. I can't get an exact amount since I don't fully know how it works for creators and they can choose from different plans I guess? But from what I've seen they can take 8-12% or possibly even more.

 

[The Cringe Connoisseur]

I hope Bartleby is just randomly there with no explanation given.

Scowling ominously in a the background.

 

[No Bitches Syndrome(NBS)]

I said 30-40k as in somewhere between those two not a specific number. 33k is between 30k and 40k. There's definitely going to be some willing to donate more, I know I was, but the majority of people just want to be in the credits.

Fair enough. To clarify, I was saying the absolute minimum he could possibly be getting is around 33 gross, and you're right patreon does take a significant cut. Six figures is likely an exaggeration, assuming he doesn't have a small pool of high-tier patrons pushing that number way up. I assumed tamers likely has a couple, based on my past knowledge of another patreon earner that mentioned he had 3 people on his highest tier. Anyways, the money and attention is obviously affecting him.

I had a conversation with a friend of mine who is an SU watcher dating back four years or so, and he mentioned many of the videos leading up and including WW3 were story heavy, so he's likely running through another plot heavy phase and will probably come out of it in time, as that's happened before.

Picrel is a minor poi getting worked up over a mention. He should be honored

 

[LuminescentFart]

Picrel is a minor poi getting worked up over a mention. He should be honored

Lmao.
>They didn't even cite any evidence saying you did anything bad.
What were they accused of doing again? Threatening to kill themselves constantly? I think there's plenty proof of that.

 

[GluttonousManSlob]

It was so nice when Tamers was just doing his own thing and we didn't have brony autists and orbiters to worry about. Even if you don't mind the pony shit and he does return to Sonic Underground some day, I don't think things will ever be the same.

 

[Helarctos]

Even if you don't mind the pony shit and he does return to Sonic Underground some day, I don't think things will ever be the same.

I thought it was funny at first, I was even happy that he was getting more support. I've always had my own problems with Tamers' past content, for example the explicit and sometimes graphic depictions of pedophilia he writes, but at least there was some sort of crude tongue in cheek sense of humor to everything.
This modern pony era to me has been the total opposite of why I even liked Tamers in the first place and I personally couldn't see him ever going back to making the same sort of content either, even if it somehow was true to the old ones there would still be a bad taste in my mouth. Tranny community rot is real and it will come for any social group, fandom or personal friend circle that isn't strictly walled off to the public and vetted.

 

[Billy_Sama!]

MLP is equivalent of crack on black communities for autists. Tamers is now a dime a dozen brony when he was an interesting zealot of some forgotten Sonic cartoon.