The Economic Collapse of 2025 - Are you tired of winning yet?

[George Lucas]

Stocks going down doesn’t bother me. However, we may inadvertently cause a liquidity crisis if people start running on the banks.

 

[Dawdler]

Please, never stop winning amerimutts.

I left stockmarket a year ago and can't stop laughing since.

 

[Swingletonthesimpleton]

Anybody who based their life in imaginary money from shitass wall Street deserves whatever happens to em.

Get a real job and make money you can actually hold.

 

[FatalTater]

I am reminded of a line from Alabama's Song Of The South -
Well somebody told us Wall Street fell
But we were so poor that we couldn't tell

https://genius.com/Alabama-song-of-the-south-lyrics

 

[Amerikaner Teddybär]

The economy is built on bullshit.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

You retards surrendered your guns to your government. You are a country of cucked niggercattle whose opinions do not matter. Your whole continent is just Britain's most convenient prison.

You also seem to care about this a lot, which is pretty funny.

There's really no scenario in which America does not win here. Even if we lose, we'll be the last to lose, and we'll probably find a pretty good source of revenue in shoveling the starved corpses of the 200+ countries that thought they could somehow function in the modern world without America.

I mean what are you gonna do, shoot me?

I love reading Burgers bloviating about their guns. 250 million guns, and what have you used them for? Did you use them to stop the Kosher takeover of your insitutions? To drive out the street gangs in your cities? Did you use them to end the mexican immivasion? To end DEI? To stop Blackrock? You were conquered by jews, bankers, blacks, faggots and trannies w/o firing a single shot. Your guns are just funkopops for rightwingers, and its going to be funny when they are taken from you w/o resistance.

 

[Hungry Wes Borland]

I love reading Burgers bloviating about their guns. 250 million guns, and what have you used them for? Did you use them to stop the Kosher takeover of your insitutions? To drive out the street gangs in your cities? Did you use them to end the mexican immivasion? To end DEI? To stop Blackrock? You were conquered by jews, bankers, blacks, faggots and trannies w/o firing a single shot. Your guns are just funkopops for rightwingers, and its going to be funny when they are taken from you w/o resistance.

Burger gun culture is pathetic, you are right on every single point except one - I don't think they will ever take burger guns, as it is exactly that placation and fixation on guns as the "trigger" to fighting back, the single red line that cant be crossed, that makes it so powerful a panacea for the pathetic impotent burger psyche.

You're right that if they tried to take them most would fall in line, but why bother? Look how well letting these retards buy more has worked out.

 

[PrimeRadiant]

Burger gun culture is pathetic, you are right on every single point except one - I don't think they will ever take burger guns, as it is exactly that placation and fixation on guns as the "trigger" to fighting back, the single red line that cant be crossed, that makes it so powerful a panacea for the pathetic impotent burger psyche.

You're right that if they tried to take them most would fall in line, but why bother? Look how well letting these retards buy more has worked out.

Thats true. The gun is the great pacifier, the excuse for never doing anything.

"Muh 1776" yells the Burger while trannies groom his child.

 

[greatUncleShitHeel]

Uncle Sam has spoiled his fair-weather "allies" rotten. It's high time you were reminded who is in charge. You better bend down and suck our star-spangled ballsacks, before you become a colonial possession of all the Chinamen you're importing.

I wonder how many of the people shidding in farding any of these threads were aware of tariff rates before hand. I'm willing to wager it was literal or none.

We had to suffer MacArthur's being a useless cunt during ww2, and refusing needed logistics.

Why are the Americans obliged to give you money? If you're from one of the countries in the 10% group, I'm annoyed you weren't fucked harder.

Well this has aged well.

It's been a week champ. Give it time.

Bros, just think of all those crying oligarchs and boomers with wiped 401ks. Hilarious.

This was a good post.

 

[khaine]

Why are the Americans obliged to give you money? If you're from one of the countries in the 10% group, I'm annoyed you weren't fucked harder.

What the fuck are you talking about? America doesn't give us money. If you are upset that your shitty beef farmers can't uphold the same standards you expect of us, then I don't know what is wrong with you.

Meeting baseline biosecurity such as born, raised and processed in country of origin have shown to be a stumbling block for the US, albeit this is a fundamental requirement imposed by the US on Australian exporters.

From https://www.afr.com/policy/economy/...burgers-cheaper-and-healthier-20250403-p5lot4

These are the same conditions that the US imposes on Australian exporters – reciprocal arrangements are already in place. The US industry has not been able to meet these standards and now wishes to include beef from cattle born in Mexico and Canada

From https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fed...lian-biosecurity-experts-20250404-p5lp4d.html

 

[SilentSouls]

I'm getting a little impatient. I was already fucking done with the Biden administration, and the Trump administration is already fucking things up. I hope this works out in the long run and the economy recovers quickly.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

I'm getting a little impatient. I was already fucking done with the Biden administration, and the Trump administration is already fucking things up. I hope this works out in the long run and the economy recovers quickly.

Let's be real. With the factories?

Construction already takes a long time to do. You have to gather the material, get the machinery, the tools, get the planning done, and get the contractors who will do the construction. That alone takes time and capital.

Then, you need to start construction and given there are various laws including mandatory breaks, time off, sleep, and also certain times they can't work because of local ordnance or whatever the case may be.

That alone can take 3 years. You have to set the foundation, get the electronics work done, pass inspections, and if God forbid something like a natural disaster hits that topples a wall, washes away some equipment, etc? It delays further and that factory may take 4 years to complete. I mean, For a great example of this, look at Interstate 4 in Florida. That shit took 3 years (or 4 iirc) to build back in the 60s. Sure. 60s tech? Maybe it takes some time.

But flash forward to the 90s and those projects they did back then to repair/widen that Interstate? They're still going on TO THIS DAY and are slated to continue on to the foreseeable future.

All in all, that 3 (minimum) year investment is going to be something which may not work purely due to the fact that Trump has caused economic uncertainty as companies don't even know what to expect anymore. That, combined with the fact that if (God knows how they'd even manage that but stay with me here) the Dems get the majority and are able to stop Trump tariffs and reopen trade agreements with other countries, then those companies will see it far more profitable to continue in foreign countries while also riding out the storm for 4 more years.

 

[MadStan]

Let's be real. With the factories?

Construction already takes a long time to do. You have to gather the material, get the machinery, the tools, get the planning done, and get the contractors who will do the construction. That alone takes time and capital.

Then, you need to start construction and given there are various laws including mandatory breaks, time off, sleep, and also certain times they can't work because of local ordnance or whatever the case may be.

That alone can take 3 years. You have to set the foundation, get the electronics work done, pass inspections, and if God forbid something like a natural disaster hits that topples a wall, washes away some equipment, etc? It delays further and that factory may take 4 years to complete. I mean, For a great example of this, look at Interstate 4 in Florida. That shit took 3 years (or 4 iirc) to build back in the 60s. Sure. 60s tech? Maybe it takes some time.

But flash forward to the 90s and those projects they did back then to repair/widen that Interstate? They're still going on TO THIS DAY and are slated to continue on to the foreseeable future.

All in all, that 3 (minimum) year investment is going to be something which may not work purely due to the fact that Trump has caused economic uncertainty as companies don't even know what to expect anymore. That, combined with the fact that if (God knows how they'd even manage that but stay with me here) the Dems get the majority and are able to stop Trump tariffs and reopen trade agreements with other countries, then those companies will see it far more profitable to continue in foreign countries while also riding out the storm for 4 more years.

I agree. Imagine for a moment you wanted to open a nail factory; due to a company abroad with a Global market and you, with the singular US market you won’t be able to compete on scale. And with tariffs sure you can charge more but how long is that factory going to take to build and will trump change his mind in 6 months or 2 years and you’re inventive is gone. Even before the factory is complete let alone operating paying back a factory that today costs 3 times what it would have a decade ago (like the extant competition enjoys).

No one is going to be foolish enough to make that investment.

Right now with the tariffs these goods I import went up. Now I know a guy locally who 2 years ago could produce them for me at the cost I paid back then so I asked him last week what the cost was now (given my cost increases with the tariffs) - it was now greater than the cost to buy the same product even inclusive of the tariffs. Because raw materials; scale and the cost of business was simply greater.

We shouldn’t throw our hands up and say nothing can be made here again because that isn’t true, but the underlaying fairy tale it all can be is disingenuous and while a voter may fall for it, a businessman with capital isn’t.

 

[Major von der Westfront]

No one is going to be foolish enough to make that investment.

You are exactly right. A businessman with capital will not make that type of investment willy nilly. For example, the Apple investment in that Houston plant? it is not really into a factory that produces new phones. It is actually for servers that would run AI which does not provide cheaper Iphones that surpass the tariffs. They actually just create more data centers for the AI to work as it needs. While this may be coinciding with a university that will "train the next generation" all it does really is make more people able to run the Data Center and thus, in turn, provide more intelligence to the AI. Those wafer slabs that they already produce and aim to produce? It only pumps out 10K a month which, while that sounds like a lot, is not nearly enough to meet demand which will still keep the price of electronics high even if they were to stay in production and working order. Ultimately in the end, Apple will not be able to successfully outproduce the combination of Taiwan and China with just one plant and just that singular plant alone took 5 years to get into operational order (construction began in 2020 and mass production has only just began this year). They have plans for another to be operational by 2028 however... given these metrics? That would require the second FAB to be built which.. it has not begun construction last I heard.

Ultimately, we are beholden to globalism and the claim that everything can be made is exactly as you put it. A fairy tale. We can hold pride in ourselves being able to build things of advanced quality, but how can we blindly put our faith into it when we do not have the confidence to do that?

 

[NoBueno]

I've been hearing theres a collapse planned. And a move over to the new system

 

[Wax]

I love reading Burgers bloviating about their guns. 250 million guns, and what have you used them for? Did you use them to stop the Kosher takeover of your insitutions? To drive out the street gangs in your cities? Did you use them to end the mexican immivasion? To end DEI? To stop Blackrock? You were conquered by jews, bankers, blacks, faggots and trannies w/o firing a single shot. Your guns are just funkopops for rightwingers, and its going to be funny when they are taken from you w/o resistance.

Burger gun culture is pathetic, you are right on every single point except one - I don't think they will ever take burger guns, as it is exactly that placation and fixation on guns as the "trigger" to fighting back, the single red line that cant be crossed, that makes it so powerful a panacea for the pathetic impotent burger psyche.

You're right that if they tried to take them most would fall in line, but why bother? Look how well letting these retards buy more has worked out.

I always enjoy seeing sour grapes nogunz niggercattle spew this "YOU WON'T DO SHIT" stuff. It's always cowards projecting.

The ironic part is, both of you come from shitholes where you gave up everything without a fight. For the rest of your entire sniveling lives you are going to be under the boot of your authoritarian governments who are going to whip your niggercattle hides into falling in line, you are going to continue to thank them for doing so and it's YOU who hasn't and will never do shit about it.

 

[RandomTwitterGuy]

Frankly, bringing back manufacturing would be a huge boon, it'd be completely worth any economy turbulence from the Tariffs.

And how would that work?
I mean, as someone who does industrial engineering and supports a massive corporation building factories worldwide? How would tariffs like this work in any way, shape, or form?

First of all, these are going to be low-paying shit jobs because those are the only ones worth moving to for low wages. Then you have the issue of the supply line being in the US, only increasing the cost of individual units, making many things unprofitable, and then we have the fact that there is a lack of workers in the US.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Stock goes up 20%: OMG GREATEST ECONOMY IN THE WORLD

Stock goes down 10%: OMG GREATEST DEPRESSION EVER.

pussies b

 

[The Big A]

The problem ultimately with hoping tariffs will onshore manufacturing is that it is difficult to actually do that. The red tape from obstinate bureaucrats, zero growth advocates who have infested various council and supervisory boards, NIMBY retards, etc. I’ve seen shit play out where some smug cunt on a water resources board held up a project for six months because she didn’t want to build a water pipe for a couple blocks because it was near a park. There has not been any measures to stop that kind of bullshit so all you’re going to get is a bunch of announcements about investment into manufacturing but it’ll be 5-10 years before anyone sticks a shovel into the ground if it ever happens.

This is an actual concern that I don't see brought up compared to the usual "NO! WE NEED TEMU TO SURVIVE!" jargon. Now that keeping the economy down and making sure manufacturing never re-shores is a viable way to ensure Republican electoral defeat, I'll expect a horde of politically motivated vexatious litigants arriving at every announcement of a new factory. They will be backed by politically motivated judges who will demolish quality of life of their constituents to "own" Orange Man.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Thats true. The gun is the great pacifier, the excuse for never doing anything.

"Muh 1776" yells the Burger while trannies groom his child.

What has been the last 3 months if not us "doing something". Why resort to Guns when we could use the system? Guns are a last resort when all else fails, and all else hadn't failed yet.