DarksydePhil / TheyCallMeDSP / Phil Burnell: General Discussion #2

[Brother Wind]

Do you believe dsp play another gacha mobile game actually ? Everyone talk only about WWEC but what if he kept secret another game ?

Its an interesting thing. When he announced he played games, like when he was shilling his guilds and friend codes. He was playing a lot of them. He has said he has played a lot of them.

But the weird thing is, I am not sure if the bank leaks support him playing multiple games. My two biggest question marks are, I think we can line up spending estimates really well to the days on the leaks. And if prices are different then things get a little confusing. E.g. $16.51. Because I remember the bank leaks having the same number a loooot. Very little divergence between like the small packs being bought as well as the large packs. If that makes sense.

The former point does also get interesting with current day. Because he is spending more than he makes on what we track. Once again as an example he dropped 3k. And only made 2k. Proof he has credit cards. But, what if he is spending on other games? He is already a grand in the hole. Any other game is just icing on his second bankruptcy.

In short, how could he play other games? But, no way he isn't.

 

[neger psykolog]

Its an interesting thing. When he announced he played games, like when he was shilling his guilds and friend codes. He was playing a lot of them. He has said he has played a lot of them.

But the weird thing is, I am not sure if the bank leaks support him playing multiple games. My two biggest question marks are, I think we can line up spending estimates really well to the days on the leaks. And if prices are different then things get a little confusing. E.g. $16.51. Because I remember the bank leaks having the same number a loooot. Very little divergence between like the small packs being bought as well as the large packs. If that makes sense.

The former point does also get interesting with current day. Because he is spending more than he makes on what we track. Once again as an example he dropped 3k. And only made 2k. Proof he has credit cards. But, what if he is spending on other games? He is already a grand in the hole. Any other game is just icing on his second bankruptcy.

In short, how could he play other games? But, no way he isn't.

It's an interesting thought but keep in mind the DSP tips tracker isn't even updated anymore - it was proven to be like 95%+ accurate by the bankruptcy.

Once the bank leaks hit and once DSP actually admitted to the account being his it proved the general notion that "DSP lies about his finances and spends his money wastefully not just on WWE Champions but also on Door Dash, Total Wine and a bunch of other shit"

Without the tips tracker (which I think stopped being updated like a year ago) it's hard to know how much money he actually has coming in and his income streams have become more complex with the addition of Kick.

People say he's spending more than he is making, but they don't know this because of the addition of Kick income. I think they're just looking at the tip amounts he is getting and nothing else. For all anyone knows DSP is probably using the Kick income (which I believe comes once a month) as disposable income just like tip money. One thing we can be certain on is that he's not paying off his taxes or doing anything meaningful with the extra income.

Anyway, it's proven that he's lied about all this at this point and that is all that matters. Sure if someone finds a whale account on another game that is very obviously him it would be interesting but since the evidence has already proven he is a liar and the WWE Champions account has been known about for ages a second or third game he's fucking around in wouldn't really be adding much to something that has already been proven true.

 

[Brother Wind]

Without the tips tracker (which I think stopped being updated like a year ago) it's hard to know how much money he actually has coming in and his income streams have become more complex with the addition of Kick.

He fucking posts a running tally of how much he makes every fucking day. I'm not auditing every cent he makes. We have a rough idea. Would you say something worth reading for fucking once around here

Edit: Because I had a further thought. He can really only be making less than he posts on his stream because now he counts everything. Even shit that has fees taken out. The only way it can be more is if he is flat out hiding money he gets in. And I just doubt that in a world where he keeps crying about goals and momentum.

 

[QwahlityKahntent]

Is it because he's too stupid

yes. the answer is always yes

 

[00R-Gundam]

The only time ive seen him be genuinely happy and invested in a game was where he was gambling in Yakuza. Aside that he always look miserable and forced when he plays games.

 

[A Piece of Coal]

He’s 100% playing something else. I think he’s already submitted to himself, in his own dented way, that he can do a second bankruptcy to clean the slate again.

Whether pigroach luck will kick in, who knows? But I think Phil is perfectly happy skating by until that 7-year window opens again.

He fucking posts a running tally of how much he makes every fucking day. I'm not auditing every cent he makes. We have a rough idea. Would you say something worth reading for fucking once around here

Neger the Nigger. There’s several people on twitter who do breakdowns of what he makes. Plus the tips tracker doesn’t matter anymore.

 

[neger psykolog]

He fucking posts a running tally of how much he makes every fucking day. I'm not auditing every cent he makes. We have a rough idea. Would you say something worth reading for fucking once around here

Edit: Because I had a further thought. He can really only be making less than he posts on his stream because now he counts everything. Even shit that has fees taken out. The only way it can be more is if he is flat out hiding money he gets in. And I just doubt that in a world where he keeps crying about goals and momentum.

How much he makes each day≠his current cashflow. Particularly the case with Kick subs where he gets the money later on.

Does he really count everything? I thought kick subs and resubs on YouTube were counted separately? I've heard different stories about what he counts on his stream.

Neger the Nigger. There’s several people on twitter who do breakdowns of what he makes. Plus the tips tracker doesn’t matter anymore.

I am but a German WW2, midget class submarine, definitely not a "nigger" as your snide remark seems to try and imply.

The tips tracker was the most accurate thing that I think even took into account his YouTube adsense income (which has steadily been decreasing but is still a significant amount) and yeah I have seen the accounts that offer breakdowns, but its still not insight into actual cashflow (which the tips tracker didn't even offer). It was always presumed (and probably accurate) that tips were his spending money while the monthly YouTube paycheck was for bills.

The thing with WWEC events is that they seem sporadic, so when he had the most recent one (around April 5th-7th) people chirp up and say "omg he didn't make $3000 but he spent $3000" negating (sorry - neger-ating) the fact that the event before that was on March 22nd. So anyone saying "he didn't earn $3000" is maybe wrong (or he does indeed have access to credit).

He’s 100% playing something else. I think he’s already submitted to himself, in his own dented way, that he can do a second bankruptcy to clean the slate again.

It's definitely possible and even somewhat likely given that he had played several gacha-style shitty games before WWE Champions was uncovered. I think he can declare bankruptcy again in 2 years and there is also a theory running around that he somehow managed to refinance his house or got a 2nd mortgage on it (which seems very unlikely given the state it is allegedly in)

 

[Pargon]

He doesn't like any games and has never liked any games. He likes "gambling aspect". Period.

That’s not true. He likes them when he wins.

 

[Brother Wind]

I am but a German WW2, midget class submarine, definitely not a "nigger" as your snide remark seems to try and imply.

Oh thats whats going on, youre on your sixth year in middle school.

 

[neger psykolog]

Oh thats whats going on, youre on your sixth year in middle school.

My 6th year in middle school and my 16,000th page of the DSP megathread, as we all are.

 

[TheGreatWhiteNorth]

On the plus side, Phil did give us his best Ethan Ralph impression last night.

 

[AGoodBrazilian]

I’m glad Phil stopped begging for money to buy groceries or pay the internet bill and is now doing pahsitive reinforcement begs like: “Now that you won’t give me $150 to eat Little Caesars, my wife will have to cook dinner and she’s tired from work.”

 

[Lord_Point]

The only time ive seen him be genuinely happy and invested in a game was where he was gambling in Yakuza. Aside that he always look miserable and forced when he plays games.

Even the joy of gambling pales in comparison to the ecstatic joy he shows when there is a homo erotic yakuza scene or a swinging ball sack in southpark.

Personally I like fat and happy phil, thats when hes feeling himself and peak toxic, calling people retards and flexing on the poors. Broke phil hermits up and does the gamer safe space where we are chill and meaningful and boring.

 

[neger psykolog]

I’m glad Phil stopped begging for money to buy groceries or pay the internet bill and is now doing pahsitive reinforcement begs like: “Now that you won’t give me $150 to eat Little Caesars, my wife will have to cook dinner and she’s tired from work.”

Did the begging for bill money stop immediately following the bankruptcy or was that a more recent thing?

 

[Cyber Bowling]

The only time ive seen him be genuinely happy and invested in a game was where he was gambling in Yakuza. Aside that he always look miserable and forced when he plays games.

I think he hates like, 95% of all games, especially the majority of which came out after like the mid 2000's. But DSP has a weird nostalgia for a few games, just like how he has a weird nostalgia for a tiny handful of older shows/movies. And even then, I'd argue his enjoyment of them isn't necessarily "normal" gaming enjoyment and very much has to do with Phil's obsession with chasing progress in games for a dopamine hit. That's why he can't really recall anything about the game itself, he just has a positive association with it. It's kinda funny because at least a few of the older games he likes are RPGs. Normally, when people talk about RPGs, they'll discuss the story or go in depth with the builds they used to use, but I think for Phil, the enjoyment was being able to grind and mash attack to get through those games. Or maybe using a strategy guide to just spam a boss weakness or get the most OP items or whatever.

There's probably a handful of others I've forgotten, but the only modernish game I can remember Phil consistently enjoying in recent years is Bugsnax. I'd say the same logic applies, it's an easy game that he feels like he can constantly make progress in, but for whatever reason, Phil seemed to enjoy the story. He claims to like Yakuza, but he snoozes through all those streams and never seems to talk about the story/rarely recognizes reoccurring characters/cameos. It's still something at least, since he really seems to openly hate/rage quit everything else he forces himself to play.

As for other mobile games...I wouldn't be surprised if he has others he plays, but I think Champions is his main focus/the only one he whales in. I feel like he named a few other mobile games a few years ago. It's possible that was just Phil trying to throw us off the Champions scent, but Phil isn't exactly known for thinking ahead. If I had to guess, it could be something where he gets pissy if he didn't get a Champions pull, jumps to play another game, quickly gets bored and then goes back to Champions. Or maybe he tried to play the same game as Khet or something but didn't care enough to get invested. I think because he's such a creature of habit, he's really only comfortable with one main game.

 

[neger psykolog]

He claims to like Yakuza, but he snoozes through all those streams and never seems to talk about the story/rarely recognizes reoccurring characters/cameos. It's still something at least, since he really seems to openly hate/rage quit everything else he forces himself to play.

alottapeepul said when he played the gambling minigames in Yakuza games that his eyes lit up and he was suddenly all alert and having fun. Maybe that's the only reason he "enjoys" them.

 

[Pattern Noticer]

He said he is playing blue prince Thursday, it's a rouge like puzzle game where you have to use observation and strategy to uncover secrets so that'll be interesting, until he makes it boring.

"What am I supposed to do?" "Where do I go?" "This is boring" repeated 100x

 

[EmpGulcasa]

Do you believe dsp play another gacha mobile game actually ? Everyone talk only about WWEC but what if he kept secret another game ?

He does. 100%. Nobody who whales out on one gacha only plays that one gacha.

 

[Coke Zero]

Yakuza was one of the games kat played on the chaos realm channel so I've always wondered if phil's obsession with those games comes from that. Maybe when phil first started talking to her he watched her yakuza videos and they bonded over talking about those games.

Other than that I really don't get it. The yakuza games are long and boring, he falls asleep during them and they get low views and money, but he autistically plays them all to the very end. Any other series would have been ragequit after 1 stream if they received the same results as the yakuza games, but he doesn't ever threaten to quit them.

Also when he brought the fat verison of kat back to the streams, it was to play a yakuza game.

Maybe this is all a coincidence but I don't really believe in coincidences so I suspect phil and kat have some autisitc, sentimental attachment to the yakuza games and it's one of the very few common interests they share.

 

[Martys_not_smarty]

Did the begging for bill money stop immediately following the bankruptcy or was that a more recent thing?

If you're talking about the beg tweets I think it was when Charlie pointed it out once in a video of his that he stopped.