Hazbin Hotel / Helluva Boss Thread - Now a Griefing Thread

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Re(Runner)48 said:
Fair point where is his merch?
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He got a pin of his head, a cartoony keychain dangler and this print:
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It looks stylish, though I wouldn’t wear it, because I don’t want to be confused with a school shooter.
 
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InJailOutSoon said:
So since the new HB short is going to come out soon, I have one question to ask my fellow kiwis: Did anyone else think that the shorts for this show were going to be more on the side characters and their plots instead of IMP going on missions?
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Not at all. They made that very clear when 75% of shorts were about missions while the main series focused on intepersonal relationships. Morgana likely wanted his self insert to have some time in the sun which is why we weren’t 4 for 4.
 
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InJailOutSoon said:
So since the new HB short is going to come out soon, I have one question to ask my fellow kiwis: Did anyone else think that the shorts for this show were going to be more on the side characters and their plots instead of IMP going on missions?
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I cannot wait for all the pople who said "The shorts will be about IMP missions and comedy so you can shut about the show not having those" to suddendly change minds and gaslight again me with "The shorts were NEVER about IMP and were always meant to give depth to side characters who really need it, not my fault you're toxic hater and couldn't see that!"
 
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ssaneenah said:
He got a pin of his head, a cartoony keychain dangler and this print:
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It looks stylish, though I wouldn’t wear it, because I don’t want to be confused with a school shooter.
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Given how cheaply made the rest of the merch is, I would bet the collage wouldn't be able to go through any more than a dozen rounds through the laundry before large parts of it are peeled off and would already be showing damage after a small handful of rounds.
 
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LucasSomething said:
I cannot wait for all the pople who said "The shorts will be about IMP missions and comedy so you can shut about the show not having those" to suddendly change minds and gaslight again me with "The shorts were NEVER about IMP and were always meant to give depth to side characters who really need it, not my fault you're toxic hater and couldn't see that!"
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Bonus points if they do "The earlier shorts were NEVER canon" like how the first ones of both these things now "never" were due to increasingly conflicting lore with the earlier stuff beyond just the actual first pilot episodes.

I said it before, I'll keep saying it, but it's genuinely fucking something else how quickly both of these "shows" devolved into the same badly written melodrama wearing the skinsuit of a comedy thing. It took hazbin a bit longer and shorter due to there being fucking nothing aside from the episode 1/pilot for years but the entire reason that got popular was the comedic aspect and the interesting concept of "oh yeah what if you tried to redeem people that were literally fucking irredeemable to the point they were sent to HELL". Hellova boss got popular initially due to similar funny concept as the pitch . Flash forwards a few years it's turned into the same sludge as everything else and there's a trail of people being abandoned for broadway and hollywood people to take their places, and vivziepop now looks like amy schumer and though I said it before it's not going to stop bugging me how she animorphed into amy shcumer once everything started becoming shitty melodrama. I don't care if I'm looping here I have a fucking headache and I don't think people are gonna check every god damn page of this thread just to see the last time I talked about it lmao.
ssaneenah said:
Paimon merch?
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Yeah we uh... got those...
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The Lawgiver said:
I said it before, I'll keep saying it, but it's genuinely fucking something else how quickly both of these "shows" devolved into the same badly written melodrama wearing the skinsuit of a comedy thing. It took hazbin a bit longer and shorter due to there being fucking nothing aside from the episode 1/pilot for years but the entire reason that got popular was the comedic aspect and the interesting concept of "oh yeah what if you tried to redeem people that were literally fucking irredeemable to the point they were sent to HELL". Hellova boss got popular initially due to similar funny concept as the pitch . Flash forwards a few years it's turned into the same sludge as everything else and there's a trail of people being abandoned for broadway and hollywood people to take their places, and vivziepop now looks like amy schumer and though I said it before it's not going to stop bugging me how she animorphed into amy shcumer once everything started becoming shitty melodrama. I don't care if I'm looping here I have a fucking headache and I don't think people are gonna check every god damn page of this thread just to see the last time I talked about it lmao.
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Part of the reasons why I'm more forgiving towards Helluva over Hazbin is that the writers are least admitting the former is about relationships and class, but Hazbin is still apparently about redemption. Despite what others suggest or thought, I didn't think Hazbin needed to be a "monster of the week" kind of situation, as Angel Dust alone would've been enough to serve the narrative. I don't want to repeat the things I said about him since I felt like I've already done so recently, so I'm going to provide a link to a reddit post where one particular comment thread highlights my issue with him, and the show as a whole.

 
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Papa stink said:
It's been memed to death but Viv accidenlty portraying gay people through rapist and drug addicts that have been sent to hell is the funniest thing about this franchise. Did she really not think through the implications of having pride merch with a rapist on it?
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I'm pretty sure St. Peter is meant to be gay or at least bi. That dude is fruity as hell.
 
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Strawberry Kiwi Propel said:
Part of the reasons why I'm more forgiving towards Helluva over Hazbin is that the writers are least admitting the former is about relationships and class, but Hazbin is still apparently about redemption. Despite what others suggest or thought, I didn't think Hazbin needed to be a "monster of the week" kind of situation, as Angel Dust alone would've been enough to serve the narrative. I don't want to repeat the things I said about him since I felt like I've already done so recently, so I'm going to provide a link to a reddit post where one particular comment thread highlights my issue with him, and the show as a whole.

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Viziepop's dialogue and "comedy:"

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Some are excusing Alastor's cuss saying it was "impactful" because it shows he finally got very pissed. Nah. Everyone in the show cusses so much and references sex a lot, that the moment someone swears in the show, even if it's someone who doesn't swear,it falls so flat. An argument against this may be "oh you are not watching and listening very closely." People mostly watch to have fun, not to absorb tiny details like Alastor not cursing.
 
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Mad Hunter said:
Viziepop's dialogue and "comedy:"

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Some are excusing Alastor's cuss saying it was "impactful" because it shows he finally got very pissed. Nah. Everyone in the show cusses so much and references sex a lot, that the moment someone swears in the show, even if it's someone who doesn't swear,it falls so flat. An argument against this may be "oh you are not watching and listening very closely." People mostly watch to have fun, not to absorb tiny details like Alastor not cursing.
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I'd say the times when the swearing takes me out of it the most are during the song numbers. Hell is Forever is an exception since it's Adam, and that's just in-character, but I always roll my eyes at "Happy fuckin' day in Hell." It's just so unnecessary and completely ruins the flow.
 
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Mad Hunter said:
Viziepop's dialogue and "comedy:"

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Some are excusing Alastor's cuss saying it was "impactful" because it shows he finally got very pissed. Nah. Everyone in the show cusses so much and references sex a lot, that the moment someone swears in the show, even if it's someone who doesn't swear,it falls so flat. An argument against this may be "oh you are not watching and listening very closely." People mostly watch to have fun, not to absorb tiny details like Alastor not cursing.
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Maybe if it was only used when Alastor got his staff broken by Adam I would agree. That simple "Oh shit" made sense because he realized that he was screwed now. But the earlier swears ruined that moment. Especially when he went "Fuck you" to Lucifer in their petty argument.
 
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