Over 500 ‘incels’ completed a survey. This is what researchers learned

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A study that looked at more than 500 members of the “incel” community suggests they are a diverse group that often struggles with mental health issues.

“Incels are often stereotyped in the media as young, white, right-wing men who are not in employment, education, or training,” lead author Andrew G. Thomas, a senior psychology lecturer at Swansea University in the U.K., said in a news release. “When we tested the accuracy of these stereotypes using primary data collection, we discovered misconceptions.”

In what they claim to be the largest incel community survey to date, the study showed that participants came from different backgrounds and had varied political beliefs.

“If we had to point to their most consistent characteristics, it would be incredibly poor mental health and their feelings of bitterness, frustration, and distain towards women – though even these show variation within the sample,” Thomas said.

‘An extremely hard to reach group’​

Led by researchers from Swansea University and the University of Texas at Austin, and published in the journal Archives of Sexual Behaviour, the study is based on an online questionnaire completed by 561 members of “the internet’s largest incel forum.” Incel is short for involuntary celibacy, and the controversial online subculture of men is united by their perceived inability to form romantic or sexual relationships.


“The community is an outlet for misogynistic hostility, and incels’ ideology includes the belief that most women are attracted to a small number of men, who monopolize sexual encounters with women,” the study explained. “Central to the incel belief system is the ‘black-pill’ philosophy that there is nothing they can do to improve their romantic prospects.”

A small, but growing number of violent attacks have also been attributed to self-described incels, including the 2018 Toronto van attack that killed 11 people.

“The community has been labeled as an emerging domestic terrorism concern by counterterrorism authorities in Canada, the U.S.A., and the U.K.,” the study noted. “Incels are considered an extremely hard to reach group who are cynical of the motives of academic researchers.”

‘Extraordinarily high rates of suicidal ideation’​

In terms of mental health, the researchers found that 37 per cent of participants reported daily suicidal thoughts, 48 per cent reported high levels of loneliness and 86 per cent reported experiencing bullying. Thirty per cent of participants also met the criteria for an autism assessment, compared with one per cent of the general population.

“The extraordinarily high rates of suicidal ideation in our sample were among the most alarming findings and demand urgent attention,” study co-author William Costello, a researcher in psychology at the University of Texas at Austin, said. “Likewise, the prevalence of autism traits was much higher than in the general population, pointing to the need for greater clinical attention to neurodiversity within this group.”

When it came to ethnic diversity, political orientation, socioeconomic background, employment, education and age, the participants were a varied group.

Just over half the respondents were white at 58 per cent while 42 per cent identified as people of colour. Many identified as middle class at 40.6 per cent, followed by lower-middle class at 27.1 per cent; 42.4 per cent were employed full-time and 16.4 per cent were in full-time education. The average age of participants was 26 and the oldest was 73. In terms of political orientation, on average, incels were slightly left of centre.

“Incels with right-wing leanings may be more predisposed to harmful attitudes and beliefs than those leaning left, as right-wing radical acts are generally more violent,” the study warned.

The study was conducted in collaboration with the U.K. government’s Commission for Countering Extremism. Anonymous participants came from the U.K. and U.S. and were paid UK£20 or C$37 for their responses.

“Our study is one of the first that takes a deep dive into a large sample of incels,” co-author Joe Whittaker, a senior criminology lecturer at Swansea University, said. “Our findings will help to inform policy and practice within the sphere of counter-extremism and help stakeholders to develop effective and appropriate responses.”

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I really want to know what 73 years of no pussy does to a mother fucker
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The type of shit gramps is on.
 
While I think incel is GROSSLY overused as a term (and retards obsess about not getting laid too much on both ends) Someone who CALLS themselves an incel bodes very, very, very badly
disagreeable worthless pieces of shit.
SOME are but frankly simps AND incels are both opposite ends of the (sexual) horseshoe. Both utterly fucking fail but for different reasons. Women who are truly intolerable you just tell them are intolerable, and remove them from your life, find better. They exist, and aren't unicorns

and if you notice men who genuinely seem happy with """intolerable""" women, ask yourself if its really so bad.

Also, ask yourself if YOU are tolerable. No woman will treat you that well if YOU are intolerable because YOU need to have something to bring to the table too. And no, this doesn't mean a millionare, or 6pack, or even college educated. Just nice, hardworking, and dedicated. You do that, gaurentee you can find a girl.

Also brade, since you've mentioned you have like a whole TB of porn IIRC, maybe just remove using that for a month or some shit. If you are being used to cranking it to a heavily curated porn collection, your standards are unnecessarily inflated, and any girl whos even semi average won't get to you. That would help in many ways too.

You might not believe it, but seriously, going without for even a WEEK will make you more attracted to just normal girls. Which makes the emotional stuff a lot easier. And women WILL like your attitude better for it overtime, in ways that are subconscious on both ends

But serously, consider setting aside the porn. I don't judge too much since porn in men is as prolific as crack to blacks in the 80s, but its not really worth it. YES it might be difficult for a bit, but its well worth it.

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I mean nobody can browse reddit for a significant length of time or read all the stories of leftwing influencers outed as sex pests and honestly claim that inceldom is a 'right wing' phenomenon. Who do they think they're fooling when they try to connect it to the right? Its really telling with how biased they are they are still forced to concede that incels lean left. Guessing if the survey was expanded and everybody was forced to be honest it would be even more lopsided in the left camp.
Their original sin is being male. Any mistake a man makes for any reason at all, even in service of the approved ideology, will be purity-spiraled as some failure to purge their toxicity and heaped as proof the entire male race must be muzzled.
 
Unless his dick really is busted, maybe Elon is an incel due to broken penis, this would explain him DMing women and asking them to let him artificially inseminate them which is weird, like why doesn't he want to fuck them he just wants a doctor to inject them with his semen? very weird.
Bro, elon was in a relationship with Amber Heard. Then in one with Grimes right after that, and then was in another relationship with a third woman that ended last year. Like, I'd be fucking tired of women too if my past relationships were like this.
 
While I think incel is GROSSLY overused as a term (and retards obsess about not getting laid too much on both ends) Someone who CALLS themselves an incel bodes very, very, very badly

SOME are but frankly simps AND incels are both opposite ends of the (sexual) horseshoe. Both utterly fucking fail but for different reasons. Women who are truly intolerable you just tell them are intolerable, and remove them from your life, find better. They exist, and aren't unicorns

and if you notice men who genuinely seem happy with """intolerable""" women, ask yourself if its really so bad.

Also, ask yourself if YOU are tolerable. No woman will treat you that well if YOU are intolerable because YOU need to have something to bring to the table too. And no, this doesn't mean a millionare, or 6pack, or even college educated. Just nice, hardworking, and dedicated. You do that, gaurentee you can find a girl.

Also brade, since you've mentioned you have like a whole TB of porn IIRC, maybe just remove using that for a month or some shit. If you are being used to cranking it to a heavily curated porn collection, your standards are unnecessarily inflated, and any girl whos even semi average won't get to you. That would help in many ways too.

You might not believe it, but seriously, going without for even a WEEK will make you more attracted to just normal girls. Which makes the emotional stuff a lot easier. And women WILL like your attitude better for it overtime, in ways that are subconscious on both ends

But serously, consider setting aside the porn. I don't judge too much since porn in men is as prolific as crack to blacks in the 80s, but its not really worth it. YES it might be difficult for a bit, but its well worth it.
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There are no incels without porn.
 
Bro, elon was in a relationship with Amber Heard. Then in one with Grimes right after that, and then was in another relationship with a third woman that ended last year. Like, I'd be fucking tired of women too if my past relationships were like this.
Not to mention that he married and divorced Tallulah Riley twice. Yeah, Elon has poor taste in women
 
simps AND incels are both opposite ends of the (sexual) horseshoe.
Now this is where I have to disagree, neither simps nor incels really understand women. And they get laid and in relationships about as much. Neither do women understand themselves when it comes to subcontious drives. Neither do I completely, but it has been a wild ride of learning.

The sad thing about incels is that they are right on many points. Some men will never even get laid even by a drunk girl on horny-drugs, no matter what they do. But most could get someone if they just maxx everything. ChrisChan has a girlfriend, even if he is too autistic to understand what he is doing. That should be an inspiration for everyone.
 
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using the term "incel" to mean someone they dislike/disagree with
I mean, they were doing that to people who didn't like She-Hulk. Not even kidding.

In the wake of the show being released, there were ads put up on Facebook saying, "Sorry Incels, this isn't for you", which, putting aside the idea that you're using a fluffy television show to address a group that society acknowledges are radical extremists, it's a fine way of Marvel to say, "oh hey, we're under no obligation to be relevant to the fanbase that built this studio or anything like that."
 
Now this is where I have to disagree
neither simps nor incels really understand women. And they get laid and in relationships about as much.
sounds like you disagree yet made my point for me

Point is "incels" (the stereotype of bitter angry men) and simps (men who faun over and have no backbone towards women) both are IN FACT incels (don't get laid)

you need a spine, AND you need to be nice. Hence horseshoe
There are no incels without porn.
for "self proclaimed" incels maybe. But simply "not laid in 6 months+" I think there PLENTY of guys like that, which is why I KINDA dislike the term.

I always think of it like if a guy got his dick blown off by an IED, hes now CATEGORICALLY an incel in the sense he cannot get laid, but no sane person would think he was a bad person for that. Or even a guy WITH his dick who just hasn't had sex in a while. Being bitter and jaded at the world is the only real problem there

mean, they were doing that to people who didn't like She-Hulk. Not even kidding.
Yeah, this is why its such a loaded word. Sometimes its referring to married men who hate she hulk, or men who haven't gotten laid recently, OR the bitter hateful forum dudes who are black pilled. But those are 3 different things entirely.
 
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Yeah, this is why its such a loaded word. Sometimes its referring to married men who hate she hulk, or men who haven't gotten laid recently, OR the bitter hateful forum dudes who are black pilled. But those are 3 different things entirely.
It's a tell of cultural Marxists to overload words so they can shift the goalposts on anything they need to.

It's like if you criticize "Black Lives Matter" the organization, it means you don't think black lives matter and can therefore brand you as a racist without further discussion.

Or how Trump is a fascist authoritarian dictator, but no one is afraid enough to leave the country or even posting their hatred for Trump on social media, but any minute now, he's going to put the entire country on lockdown...any minute.

Words don't mean anything to these people, so if you disagree with feminism or you hate a female-led TV show, well, it means you're a radical woman-hater (who coincidentally also can't get laid, even if said incel is provably married and has a couple of kids...)
 
sounds like you disagree yet made my point for me

Point is "incels" (the stereotype of bitter angry men) and simps (men who faun over and have no backbone towards women) both are IN FACT incels (don't get laid)

you need a spine, AND you need to be nice. Hence horseshoe

for "self proclaimed" incels maybe. But simply "not laid in 6 months+" I think there PLENTY of guys like that, which is why I KINDA dislike the term.

I always think of it like if a guy got his dick blown off by an IED, hes now CATEGORICALLY an "incel" in the sense he cannot get laid, but no sane person would think he was a bad person for that. Or even a guy WITH his dick who just hasn't had sex in a while. Being bitter and jaded at the world is the only real problem there


Yeah, this is why its such a loaded word. Sometimes its referring to married men who hate she hulk, or men who haven't gotten laid recently, OR the bitter hateful forum dudes who are black pilled. But those are 3 different things entirely.

Ok, so we are on the same page.
The thing is, you can still be bitter and jaded at the world and still get laid a lot, as long as you are not physically unattractive. It just makes you mysterious and dark and exciting if you play it right. Many women will just try to fix you. True inceldom needs a conbination of bitter and ugly. And that leads us to where I think the incels have a point, you can get away with anything if you are just good looking enough, but unlike the incels, I think this is true for both sexes. And maybe even worse for women, who if they are pretty get simped for from a very early age, and then it stops sooner. Good looking men at least have a bit of a starting track to go through, and the end of the good years is not as sudden.
 
It's a tell of cultural Marxists to overload words so they can shift the goalposts on anything they need to.
true, but incel is one that actually is used like 3 whole ways
you can still be bitter and jaded at the world and still get laid a lot, as long as you are not physically unattractive.
Yeah, thats why "incel" and incel are different. Like nobody would congradulate an "incel" for no longer being an incel after he raped someone, even though technically, that cured him of being an incel.

I don't really know which one DESERVES quotes around it frankly, its a linguistic mess.

Also I think my post has more replies than reactions, which is funny. I think this shows its a truly controversial post when NONE of the sticker reactions feel a good response, but people reply non the less
 
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Would have been nice if they provided a source for this. It is the same organisation that counts opposition to mass migration as an extremist beleif, untill I see a study I take this as leftist propaganda. Pic related.

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The graph you linked is outdated and an updated version with actual context can be found in the Global Terrorism Index 2025 report:
https://www.economicsandpeace.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/03/Global-Terrorism-Index-2025.pdf

Specifically these are the new graphs and the explanations behind them.
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Figure 2.7 looks at incidents of terrorism and deaths from terrorism by far-left and far-right groups and individuals. It shows that far-left groups were responsible for more terrorist attacks, particularly between 2016 and 2022. The vast majority of far-left terrorism in the West occurred in Western European countries. However, far-right terrorism over the same period was more lethal, with 292 people being killed in far-right attacks from 2017 to 2024, with fatal attacks occurring in Europe, North America, and Asia-Pacific. It should be noted however that almost all of these attacks, across both ideologies, were carried out by individuals who were not affiliated with a particular terrorist group (page 37).
They further extrapolate on the lack of political affiliation with recent terrorism here:
Lone-actor terrorists often construct their own ideologies by piecing together elements from various, and sometimes contradictory, belief systems. This blending of ideologies isn't about strict allegiance to a single group or cause but rather reflects an attempt to justify violent actions. This approach complicates counterterrorism efforts, as it makes these actors unpredictable and harder to profile (page 38

It would seem the bigger take away from the original Incel article is not that they're right or left wing, but that they are such major assholes that they don't even need a proper ideology to kill innocent people.
 

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Specifically these are the new graphs and the explanations behind them.
The fact they call this GLOBAL is....concerning.

Like do they count ISIS killing thousands as far right extremists???

You COULD count them as that, wouldn't call them left.

But thats my point, it muddies the argument a ton. Its hard to sum up the ENTIRE WORLD of thousands of different cultures in 1 graph comparing "right and left"
 
The fact they call this GLOBAL is....concerning. Like do they count ISIS killing thousands as far right extremists??? You COULD count them as that, wouldn't call them left. But thats my point, it muddies the argument a ton. Its hard to sum up the ENTIRE WORLD of thousands of different cultures in 1 graph comparing "right and left"
Islamic States are treated entirely separately. My post is from the section specifically talking about Western trends. I linked the report and it's worth looking at.
 
truly controversial post
I don't think so, we are all just trying to figure out the human condition and searching for the truth and solutions to a clear problem, or at least I am just thinking out loud. The media narrative seems simplistic and like propaganda frankly. The problem is, we don't really know ourselves as humans outside these pre-decided narratives.
 
Islamic States are treated entirely separately. My post is from the section specifically talking about Western trends. I linked the report and it's worth looking at.
That report and that section DOES NOT specify "but not islamic states" , or even "america" or "the west" and parts just before jump all over the place.

and yeah if you counted muslim countries OF COURSE right wings kill more.

I don't think so, we are all just trying to figure out the human condition and searching for the truth and solutions to a clear problem, or at least I am just thinking out loud.
I didn't mean it was a bad or whatever post, just when a post has several replies but few responses, I find it amusing. Like some posts DEFINITELY get peoples attention but going through all the reactions, none seem to fit. I notice that on KF sometimes and find it amusing.
 
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