General Discussion for Virtual Youtubers / Vtubers / Chuubas - it's okay to be a simp for 2D, just don't thirstpost.

[Buzz Killington]

Here's the question: How do you address the loli problem now? It clearly sells at 200k live viewers. I've seen at least 3 threads on reddit with crying emojis fawning over the model. Here's some choice screencaps from one of them.

And if you speak out against this, you're downvoted by the plebbit army coping "b-but she's like this IRL i swear!!!"

Spoiler: More screencaps

Here's a link to the thread. (ARCHIVE)

 

[Nicholas Gurrmann]

I'm with Null on this one. Not!Gura knows what the fuck she's doing and who she's catering too.

Nigga she's a lolipedo too.

 

[electronic elephant]

Doki killing herself while attempting to leave troll advice.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

Am I crazy or have there been several old-but-unused accounts posting in this forum ever since Null showed up?

 

[Tactical Wizard]

Nigga she's a lolipedo too.

Yeah, that's why I'm with Null.

 

[Scarthew]

I'm with Null on this one. Not!Gura knows what the fuck she's doing and who she's catering too.

So did Gura...

If it's that bad then call the cops and fbi on Saba since its CP according to how you see it.

No I just think the people who find it appealing are pedophiles. Why do these retards always go to legal arguments?

 

[Burnt Fish]

Counter point. Take Suisei as an exemple. She isn't lewd, doesnt make lewd jokes and actively despise being sexualised. Yet she's one of the most sexualised talent in hololive if not vtubing as a whole. Vtubing/anime at its core is poisoned with gooners. You can't escape it, just gotta learn to ignore them.

I don't think suisei has the volume of viewers that do that that someone like Marine or Okayu do.

But those that do,, take it to 110% the suipiss posters are in a level of hell of their own.

However what I would say Suisei has achieved is that that shit is kept out of her streams and appearances a lot more than other talents which I think is what her ultimate goal is with pushing back on it. People are always gonna fuck off and be degenerates on their own, but she keeps it out of her stream better than I think anyone else in holo.

 

[dick brain]

Counter point. Take Suisei as an exemple. She isn't lewd, doesnt make lewd jokes and actively despise being sexualised. Yet she's one of the most sexualised talent in hololive if not vtubing as a whole. Vtubing/anime at its core is poisoned with gooners. You can't escape it, just gotta learn to ignore them.

I'm able to watch Mari and Doki without anybody making it weird and horny. I'm sure somebody is jacking off to them but it's happening where I don't see it. It can be done.

Here's the question: How do you address the loli problem now?

By making a list.

Why do these retards always go to legal arguments?

They have no internal moral framework or sense of right and wrong, their behavior is self-serving and only tempered by the threat of consequence, so to them morality and legality are one and the same. They cannot conceptualize the difference or even that there is a difference, having no theory of mind.

 

[TheMonkeyMan]

Oh Christ Biboo is trying to describe duck mating without using dirty words or the word "rape".

 

[ToroidalBoat]

"First Time Reacting to GrayStillPlays (HE'S INSANE)"

- Mari

 

[Null]

Am I crazy or have there been several old-but-unused accounts posting in this forum ever since Null showed up?

they post on the asylum and watch this thread. when I post and shit talk vtubers they share screenshots and talk about how insane I am. this prompts some of them to come back to join the argument.

Here's the question: How do you address the loli problem now? It clearly sells at 200k live viewers. I've seen at least 3 threads on reddit with crying emojis fawning over the model. Here's some choice screencaps from one of them.

There's no fix. I'm convinced my life would be easier and I'd make a ton more money if I just hated women and let people be pro-lolicon like before ~2020. It's really clear I'm in the minority now.

 

[blackjack101]

the debut could portray Saba is intentionally creating a honeypot for pedos
or
intentionally doing it for shit posting reasons like maybe video related.

I am sure I don't have to go scroll through this entire thread to know that kiwifarms had a phase about the loligod anthem a particular Vtuber sang saying it attracted pedos (could be true) while the intention behind it according to that vtuber was using the song as a stupid inside joke between her and her fans.

But of course there was the bikini, G-string she had for that model which might show the intention behind it might be a little bit different. If she didn't have the Bikini and G-string toggle and had the uohh crab face intro and the kani krabs thing it would have been debatable if the intention behind it was to attract pedos or just to shitpost for humor. The only thing to judge from now on is how much she uses that particular vtuber toggle.

 

[mindlessobserver]

There's no fix. I'm convinced my life would be easier and I'd make a ton more money if I just hated women and let people be pro-lolicon like before ~2020. It's really clear I'm in the minority now.

Confirmation bias. You hang out with internet weirdos all the time. You have a minority opinion...among internet weirdos. Bet if you went down to the American Legion hall closest to your swamp and hung out with the old boomers who don't know what a modem is and they would all agree with you.

 

[Nogg]

Confirmation bias. You hang out with internet weirdos all the time. You have a minority opinion...among internet weirdos. Bet if you went down to the American Legion hall closest to your swamp and hung out with the old boomers who don't know what a modem is and they would all agree with you.

No shit. The majority of people would look at a loli and call you a pedophile for engaging with it. You have to accept that the weirdos who sexualize children are the majority of the community or get out.

 

[J50 Hamwich]

Thank god I watch hags (and men, no homo though).

 

[Faceless Anime Woman]

yeah her viewership did drop off towards the beginning, and although you could chalk it up to some people being weirded out by tummy a more reasonable answer to why the viewers would drop off is that people show up, see the model, hear the voice and then dip. I know people do that for debuts because I do it for myself sometimes. When Advent debuted I checked out Shiori, saw her model, heard her voice, determined she wasn't for me then left the stream within 10 minutes.

That's pretty much me. I was only there to do voice check and got the confirmation that its gura returning before dipping out. I do wanted to stay longer to see the rest of the model but the stream is being unusually laggy to the point that I just gave up and go to sleep.

I'm not really into her even back when she's Gura (beyond liking her original songs), but hey, if she's happy to be back, then good for her. The fans, both good or bad seems to be happy too.

 

[Serbian Peacekeepers]

they post on the asylum and watch this thread. when I post and shit talk vtubers they share screenshots and talk about how insane I am. this prompts some of them to come back to join the argument.

The people I'm noticing are agreeing with you. It's not the usual orbiters that show up when you did, like your posts and negrate anyone disagreeing with you. It's accounts that have existed for months or even years with less than 10 posts suddenly appearing just to agree with you. Only noticing it today.

 

[Burnt Fish]

It's really clear I'm in the minority now.

without powerleveling too much, Weirdly enough in a lot of places that relate to anime fandom and stuff, the last couple years have seen a pretty big uptick in people being against this kind of stuff. Not in places like 4chan or the like as those will always be dens of degeneracy but in the more normie spaces I've been pleasently surprised to see more of an anti-gooner anti-lolicon fanbase forming. Some of it though is from some other shit that isn't necessarily good either (a lot more people in the middle east are becoming active in previously western focused anime communities, which brings with it conservative muslim mindsets about women making them extremely hostile to western gooners) and some of it just from the rise of redpill stuff in recent years.

But at the end of the day what it results in is rather than all the degenerate shit going unchecked like it did 5 or so years ago, I actually see a lot more infighting in anime spaces these days with people disgusted by the degeneracy time will tell how that shift pans out.

 

[dick brain]

Confirmation bias. You hang out with internet weirdos all the time. You have a minority opinion...among internet weirdos. Bet if you went down to the American Legion hall closest to your swamp and hung out with the old boomers who don't know what a modem is and they would all agree with you.

Correct. The Internet is where people retreat to when the world doesn't match their worldview.

 

[Null]

The people I'm noticing are agreeing with you. It's not the usual orbiters that show up when you did, like your posts and negrate anyone disagreeing with you. It's accounts that have existed for months or even years with less than 10 posts suddenly appearing just to agree with you. Only noticing it today.

I'm not saying they're "brigading", I'm just saying they're almost all current or former KF users who might never check the forum nowadays are seeing something they want to reply to.