Off-Topic Losing people to transgenderism support thread - Support group for trans widows and other people who lost loved ones to troonism

[Kerry Benton]

Am I a piece of shit transphobe? (And will these friends drop me/put our friendship on ice because of it? What has our friendship been this far then?)

Real talk, as someone who has recently gone through this, if you wanna keep the friendship, just drop all troon discussions. It sucks and it’s annoying, but the cultists will drop you if you push too hard.

 

[blanketdog]

As of tonight I'm down to a singular male friend who isn't going trans or dating a trans woman and it's time for me to take a harsh look at myself and the company I keep. If you come out as trans and immediately bring up your lesbianism, congratulations, you've outed yourself as a sex pest.

Fuck, that sounds rough. I'll be your friend

 

[Jerry1337]

When I was a young lad, I had a nerdy friend group in middle school. We used to play vidya and just do stupid shit all day; typical kid stuff. After all of us graduated, everyone went their separate ways, and we promptly lost contact with each other. I only ever had a chance to talk to them when I met some of them on the street or public transit but that was very rare.

Years and years later, I regained contact with few people from that group, now as a young adult. Everyone seems to be doing great from what I can hear. However, one of the guys we used to hang out with; turned into a basement dweller and that's not even the worst part. He turned into a tranny sexual deviant of a basement dweller. Every person that had anything to do with that person keeps telling me that he's sharing some kind of puppyplay fetish shit on the Internet. It's ridiculous.

I couldn't believe what I was hearing, so I asked my parents (who knew the parents of that guy) if something was up with him, and they confirmed that guy is definitely acting weird. He still lives with his parents and almost never leaves his own room.

This kind of thing never happened to me in my entire life. And the fact that he's not only delusional but also a pervert makes this whole thing just appalling.

 

[De-Sexing Stick]

I was fortunate in that I almost lost a friend to the tranny menace (pooner in her case) but came back to the light. She figured out she was a lesbian in college, we attended a highly religious school and gay or lesbian relationships were strictly forbidden. She didn't exactly come from a great household all things considered, so she ended up dropping and I felt terrible for her. She started exploring her new sexuality and I was fine with it, though she did confess she was in love with me and I gently let her down and said I loved her still but not romantically. Suddenly, she's in a new relationship on Facebook and wants me to meet her new "gf." I did some snooping but her profile pics had the whole filters and even scarves to hide that jawline, go figure. I clocked this guy as soon as I saw him, but was polite. Friend was also married at this time, I think she married him to escape her household. So she was basically cucking her long suffering husband but was cool with him fucking other people, thank God he divorced her eventually. Anyways, I at one point went out to stay a weekend in their shitty sundown town in the desert, which I was fine with, I'm white so no big deal. However, troon made a huge show of being afraid for his life as he was Hispanic, and was just... attention seeking and got offended at being misgendered at a diner. Anywho, I slept on the couch so I was chilling one night while friend took a shower and troon came up to me and straight up asked me if I would wanna participate in a threesome with him and friend. Mind you, this is the first night I was staying in their house so I was pretty shocked at how brazen he was. I was polite and declined and gave the excuse I had zero sexual experience and was saving myself for marriage (which was true). Troon accepted but I could see the disappointment in his eyes. Last night I was there, troon had the audacity to approach me again with the same fucking offer of a threesome with him and my friend. I was more terse this time and said no and to not ask me again. I left first thing in the morning. Good riddance. Anyways, a few years later, friend tells me maybe she's FTM, oh brother. I began distancing myself, but eventually she broke up with troon and detransitioned. She admitted troon was abusive (go figure) and was very against transgenderism in all forms now (based). She revealed troon did weird sexual shit to her, like fucking her with a popsicle (gross), and other weird BDSM stuff all the while whining about feeling dysphoric while he gleefully topped her. Friend went on to move out of state, joined a roller derby team and at her second event, refused to participate with some giga hon on another team. She got removed, though some teammates expressed their support but not enough to go against the league as of course some troons were in power. That said, she's very anti trans now, and I'm so fucking glad as I think it would have ended so poorly for her. Trannies: not even once.

 

[Bill's Due]

Real talk, as someone who has recently gone through this, if you wanna keep the friendship, just drop all troon discussions. It sucks and it’s annoying, but the cultists will drop you if you push too hard.

I had a post about a friend I've known of 15+ years who trooned out.

I only learned this a few months ago. I tried to tolerate it but the retards in the server still address this faggot as a "she" and uses his new troon name.

It was tempting as fuck to power level and just tell people they're all fucking idiots for entertaining his delusions, but I just hit a breaking point and promptly and silently left the Discord server. They're almost never talking about the games I play and they're all leftists, so at this point there's nothing productive to be there.

I'll check on him in 5 years and see if he regrets it and if he's still with that Chilean illegal "girlfriend". Maybe he'll have his head screwed on straight then.

 

[De-Sexing Stick]

Sorry to post so soon, but I do recall someone I actually did lose to the troon menace. There was this nerdy guy in college who liked me and being shy, nerdy, and weird, I figured I'd give it a shot. He asked me out and we went on a few dates, but I wasn't feeling it, and I told him as such, but we remained friends. Quickly lost track after college and I kind of wondered what happened to him. I looked him up about two years back and not only is he a tranny, he is now also a furry and simply added one letter to his name making it one of the laziest troon names I have ever seen. He now lives in Portland (of fucking course he does) and draws very weird furry art, I think it's almost like psychedelic? Don't know how to describe it really. I felt really bad because I remembered his mom's Christian blog as she was in ministry and around the time he transitioned she was posting about heartbreak and how to love someone even when they make wrong and poor choices. About broke my heart too. Serves me right for dating someone who was teaching me to wavedash for competitive Smash Bros. RIP

 

[LinkinParkxNaruto[AMV]]

Serves me right for dating someone who was teaching me to wavedash for competitive Smash Bros. RIP

its ok, If someone tried explaining all this shit to me 10 years thought they were schizophrenic.

 

[ActualLurkingAccount]

Alright, fuck this. I'm gonna vent here (and stop lurking for once)

I feel like another guy friend(?) I've known for years (we used to work for the same company) used me to justify him trooning out even though he was aware I didn't care for trans people. I feel just a bit used but honestly it was also my fault for enabling it in the first place so I wouldn't feel too sorry for myself.

As a backdrop, I'm fine with like, gender nonconformity and crossdressing and shit, and over the course of IDK, 6-7 years he managed to get me to pity him and his mental issues enough to "assist" him in sissy play/submission/findom to help with his emotional hangups. He was obsessed with me 'blackmailing' him into wearing sissy stuff (I ended up drawing a hard line against that despite his attempts to guilt trip) in order to help find himself emotionally and I honestly should never have started. It never crossed any irl boundaries and I'm glad I eventually drew a hard line about discussing sexual things (like the boners he wanted to tell me about) but I feel like I was emotionally cheating on the boyfriends I was with.

He was sort of conservative which I thought would have helped (he was antivax and had some wild jewish conspiracies) but we didn't talk casually all that much and never dwelled on it for long, it felt like he was constantly waiting for me to get back to the "other stuff" instead of treating me like an actual friend. I just wanted to help him break down his boundaries and hangups and help him get to a better place mentally since he was suffering despite visiting therapists for years. He seemed to me to be in some weird toxic masculinity trap brought on by a shitty childhood and my thought at the time was that I could help him escape it. I brushed aside any doubts and concerns I had to that end, when I should have listened to them especially after he would rage out on me for various reasons. I realize looking back that it was fairly unhealthy and somewhat codependent. I had some minor mental issues at the time myself, not enough to be a serious issue IRL but enough that I could get drawn into what he was doing somewhat. I genuinely felt like I was helping him explore and find new aspects of himself and I was doing him good. He'd talk about how his brain was melting and how happy he felt as more 'walls' would crumble etc etc. Just some really strong positivity stuff that I could feel good about helping him reach you know? He'd also talk about feeling frozen and not being able to do things in his apartment and dealing with mental issues which I wanted to try and help with--usually after I would try and reject an idea he had for 'continuing' the journey. He would send me logs from ChatGPT where the bot would affirm him and say he was suffering gender dysphoria.

We had a falling out after I told him I could never see him as a woman and I thought (and would always think) transitioning and trans women were weird and creepy, speaking as a cis woman. He seemed to feel like he could change my mind somehow since it was really important to him that I thought none of the stuff he was doing was weird, although I tried to compromise with "I'll use the pronouns you want me to use and stop talking about trans stuff with you". He seemed to accept that but then talks with him just dropped off a cliff. He hasn't messaged me for 4 months and this is after he was talking with me daily/hourly for the aforementioned affirmational sissy/trans stuff.

I should have just cut him off and stopped this whole mess before he fell off the edge...Then again we didn't talk much about things unrelated to the sissy stuff and the unrelated things we did talk about were fairly surface level. I don't think he was consciously manipulating me honestly. I think he was mentally ill, and sadly I've always been a serious pushover.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Then again we didn't talk much about things unrelated to the sissy stuff and the unrelated things we did talk about were fairly surface level.

A troon is nothing without attention. Even these personal revelations had to have an audience.

I remember a friend who had just decided to poon out; she'd started monopolizing the IRC channel, just typing about her plans and observations about herself. Once she got me one-on-one for more all-about-me chat, and actually noticed I was barely responding.

She said, with the condescension of the new believer, that she could tell I wasn't comfortable talking about this. I was still trying to make a go of things, and told her that this wasn't anything new; she seemed to be going through the same stages as Person A and Person B had (previous pooners in our group) so I was pretty used to it by now.

Not the right thing to say, but it did get me out of the conversation.

 

[Lovely Kin]

Sorry to post so soon, but I do recall someone I actually did lose to the troon menace. There was this nerdy guy in college who liked me and being shy, nerdy, and weird, I figured I'd give it a shot. He asked me out and we went on a few dates, but I wasn't feeling it, and I told him as such, but we remained friends. Quickly lost track after college and I kind of wondered what happened to him. I looked him up about two years back and not only is he a tranny, he is now also a furry and simply added one letter to his name making it one of the laziest troon names I have ever seen. He now lives in Portland (of fucking course he does) and draws very weird furry art, I think it's almost like psychedelic? Don't know how to describe it really. I felt really bad because I remembered his mom's Christian blog as she was in ministry and around the time he transitioned she was posting about heartbreak and how to love someone even when they make wrong and poor choices. About broke my heart too. Serves me right for dating someone who was teaching me to wavedash for competitive Smash Bros. RIP

Many nerds get sucked into the troon culture as with many spergy hobbyists. Furries tend to attract the most degenerate too, so it makes sense why he trooned out and embraced the furfag community. My condolences go to you, and his mother. Even the parents who are the most "supportive" there is still a heartbreak in them with what could have been for their sons and daughters who troon out.

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I only wonder how many are going to troon out with how chatbots say what the user wants to hear. As much I enjoy fucking with chatbots and ai, it makes me question how many are going to troon out because of it. Were they already lost? I suppose so. Cutting off someone, or being cut off by someone, isn't the easiest thing to do, but we all learn from somewhere that it's best to cut a troon off, or expect to be cut off by one as they are soulsucking creatures. They bask in misery and attention seeking, while trying to drag others down with them. I'm sorry you had to go through him talking about his kinks nonstop.

 

[Jean d'Arc]

A close friend got a they/them girlfriend and has since shaved his beard and changed his pronouns on discord to he/they. I don't get it, the girlfriend is probably the dumbest person I've ever met, I don't mean this as a diss, she just seems to not 'get it' a lot of the time, and my friend is a smart guy, but he's been a lot more sad lately. I'm trying to figure out the right method to nudge him away from this without seeming insensitive. If he were to fully troon out it would be a tragedy. I know that at his core he's a good person, but there's a lot pulling him down.

I don't even know where to begin but it got worse. I think he came out but I don't know as what, he never said, he just announced that he's going by a woman's name now. He posted a picture of himself with (poorly applied) makeup on, a selfie trying to be cutesy, captioned how he was buying ladies swimwear. Why would you announce this?? I feel this disgusting, uncanny pit in my stomach thinking about him now. He's being pedantic and, like, tantrum-y about the pronouns thing too, even though he doesn't have the guts to come out and actually say what he identifies as.
I could try to talk to him one on one about why this isn't right but at this point I would likely end up losing him as a friend along with other people too. He's in so so deep and I didn't even realize. I could peace out of the group slowly and quietly if I wanted. I don't know how long I can stomach the nodding and smiling and tiptoeing around pronouns and hearing about "gender euphoria". It's usually little trouble dealing with other people of gender because they're just unexceptionable faggots, while I thought this friend was above that. It hurts to see the downfall of someone who used to be cool, interesting, and respectable.
Sorry for the rambling, this is weighing heavy on me. It would be so much easier to care less about gender stuff but I can't force myself to see the emperor's clothes anymore.

 

[GoldenSnake]

so my brother is still causing problems but i had a slight win last night. my best friend knows someone who is trooning out and it peaked her. we went out yesterday and i asked about him, and she started telling me how she thinks he’s so creepy. she asked if i knew who lily tino was and she said she thinks he’s like that. at this point i’m very excited, and i start telling her why i think he’s such a creep. then she says it, i was so damn happy when she did: “i think it’s a fetish for him.”

troon tax: this guy decided to message every one of his female friends telling them he’s trooning out, even me who has never even spent time with him. he has not told any male friend, even ones who are very liberal and accepting. he asked me to take him on a “girls trip” since he knows i holiday a lot, he asked my best friend to do his makeup for him, he went on a political rant to another friend when she posted one of those memes of the US vice president, and he sent random selfies into our DMs in pigtails and twin braids. best friend told me he doesn’t shower and she had to steam clean her couch after he sat on it.

another example of someone being extremely liberal until they encounter a troon.

 

[Feels Badman]

It would be so much easier to care less about gender stuff but I can't force myself to see the emperor's clothes anymore.

Being forced to choose between denying what you know to be true or losing friends/family/career is not something anyone should have to accept. Any sane person who's been in that position will care "more than they should" (read: a normal amount).

 

[ephermeral]

So sorry fren. But it’s better to know handmaiden status sooner rather than later. Her breaking things off with you over it was an indication that she wasn’t open to simply agreeing to disagree either. Bullet dodged. Spin again!

One of my childhood friends dumped me recently because of all the transphobia I’ve been posting, I.e. some gender critical books I’ve liked and a handful of spicy memes. It actually made me really sad until he hit me with, “I can’t tolerate someone demonizing my community.”

“Your community? Nigga you gay and I’m talking trannies. Shut up.”

That is not what I said, he basically left it at we can agree to disagree but I don’t plan on talking to you again. I did mention that lesbians are within “his community” and are having a tough time with having men in their spaces, which of course went unacknowledged. I’m not sure if he is a full blown handmaiden, or if being a white gay dood isn’t special enough anymore, but he’s fully bought into the cult.

Silver lining: Even if some close friends start dropping like flies, maybe it’ll make dating easier? Straight men aren’t totally pozzed when it comes to this afaik. They were the only ones who ever seemed to enjoy the TERF-y memes I’ve posted lol

 

[Anasa Tristis]

but he’s fully bought into the cult.

Many such cases. At least until he gets hit up on irl by a deranged and entitled pooner. That could be a peaking moment.

Don't be so sure about straight men. Especially not if they're single, Lefties, or Libertarians. Sure, they'll laugh at the memes but tranny shit simply doesn't affect them the way it does LG and females.

 

[Lovely Kin]

another example of someone being extremely liberal until they encounter a troon.

That's the magic of troons, they radicalize even the most liberal people against their cause after interacting with one. Once you are around one for prolonged experiences, you start to realize how insufferable they are, and how dangerous their ideology is.

That is not what I said, he basically left it at we can agree to disagree but I don’t plan on talking to you again. I did mention that lesbians are within “his community” and are having a tough time with having men in their spaces, which of course went unacknowledged. I’m not sure if he is a full blown handmaiden, or if being a white gay dood isn’t special enough anymore, but he’s fully bought into the cult.

Lots of fags are still shaming each other, and haven't hit their peaking moment yet compared to how many lesbians and straights are. They enabled it the longest, but I do see at least quite a few resisting more, but it also felt differing by country. Noticed lots of fags in the UK already hit their peak compared to fags here.

 

[ephermeral]

Lots of fags are still shaming each other, and haven't hit their peaking moment yet compared to how many lesbians and straights are. They enabled it the longest, but I do see at least quite a few resisting more, but it also felt differing by country. Noticed lots of fags in the UK already hit their peak compared to fags here.

This might be unpopular opinion here, but Europe is ahead of us in certain things, specifically in leftist circles. This might be a little of me, but seeing TERF island stand on business warms the cockles of my black lil heart. Sometimes the US is a little behind on stuff. I mean for fucks sake, I have yet to see a lawn Roomba ANYWHERE here, but every squarehead in Norway seemed to have one and this was several years ago.

Back to trannies and my now former friend… I think his husband might have something to do with it. I’m not trying to pull a “My friend married gay-Anisa and has turned him into gay-cuck-idubz,” but his husband IS a huge Lady Gaga stan and my friend of old would have thought this shit was hilarious. Pre-tranny menace.

It’s been less than a week and my last message wasn’t great. I am tempted to reach out to him, because for a while I too more or less agreed with him, and I know how much it sucks to voice what you think is a mild disagreement and have a bomb go off in your life, it’s lonely. I want him to know he can talk to me but he’s a smart guy and I think he knows the door will always be open, should he ever peak.

If the past year has taught me anything, it’s that the best thing to do in these situations is nothing.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

That's the magic of troons, they radicalize even the most liberal people against their cause after interacting with one. Once you are around one for prolonged experiences, you start to realize how insufferable they are, and how dangerous their ideology is.

Its really a shame. On almost every metric I would be a leftist, but I have experience with these things. So have gone hard anti troon in recent years, which funnily enough has made a pariah politically for nearly everyone.

Had a cousin that pooned out and cut off all of the family instantly (for being too "right leaning", what that means, I don't know). From what I hear about them every once in a while, they are working as a hairdresser for women (so manly, dood!) and has no real friends or family anymore. Jam packed full of mental illness.
Its been long enough now that I've gotten over it, mostly.
Pretended to be coming out as a troon to actually speak to her again. But she is too far gone to go back to sanity unfortunately. Its really a sad thing to see.

 

[Lovely Kin]

This might be unpopular opinion here, but Europe is ahead of us in certain things, specifically in leftist circles. This might be a little of me, but seeing TERF island stand on business warms the cockles of my black lil heart. Sometimes the US is a little behind on stuff. I mean for fucks sake, I have yet to see a lawn Roomba ANYWHERE here, but every squarehead in Norway seemed to have one and this was several years ago.

Ahaha right. I feel that only Canada will be behind us on troon stuff with how much the Canadian government embraces and worships it. Don't know how Quebec feels about the troon stuff, but I know Alberta and Manitoba are more lukewarm on it. No idea how Australia or New Zealand currently feel. I agree on doing nothing, it's best to distance yourself instead of trying to change someone as they are too far gone the second they begin trooning out, or it's best to notice the signs (which are sometimes difficult for me since you don't know what they do online in private).

Had a cousin that pooned out and cut off all of the family instantly (for being too "right leaning", what that means, I don't know). From what I hear about them every once in a while, they are working as a hairdresser for women (so manly, dood!) and has no real friends or family anymore. Jam packed full of mental illness.

I never really paid attention in university to anything, so I never knew any troons outside of the weird sighting I saw in 2019. My assumption is many flee to places like Boston, NYC, Portland, Chicago etc. which doesn't surprise me to be fair. All I know is they are full of mental illness like your cousin and are exhausting to be around.

 

[YoRHa No. 2 Type B]

I never really paid attention in university to anything, so I never knew any troons outside of the weird sighting I saw in 2019. My assumption is many flee to places like Boston, NYC, Portland, Chicago etc. which doesn't surprise me to be fair. All I know is they are full of mental illness like your cousin and are exhausting to be around.

Yeah troons tend to move away from rural conservative areas to left leaning cities, just like the one I'm currently in.
Should be pretty obvious why they consider such moves.
Your assumption is pretty much bang on. There are a few that aren't so bad but most of them are just trying to redeem as many victim points as possible and are very mentally ill.
Usually had problems during childhood, I don't see why else you would want to bin your entire life to be "reborn" as the opposite gender.
People have slowly become less tolerant of LGBT stuff in my city, especially in the last year from what I've noticed. And my city leans left comparable to somewhere like Seattle, so its not looking too good for troons in the long term any way.
Who knows what happens at that point.