Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[meniche]

I downloaded all the Ubuntu IRC logs, to grep through them locally.
I didn't find anything relevant yet, there is barely any casual talk going on.
When he got jailed, he simply vanished, and only once was asked about him, and only one guy seems to have known more:

[08:23] <darkxst> gone, as in 'retired' from ubuntu community

https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/12/18/%23ubuntu-gnome.html

Similarly, when he came back, he just suddenly appeared, with a release announcement being his first post on IRC (so i assume that he stayed away from the IRC at first). And again, nobody cared.

Honestly, the only thing i learned here, is just how much linux communities declined in the past years. In the year 2020, their IRC activity was 80% less than in 2010.
I remember how active distribution specific IRCs used to be. It was super hard to keep track of #gentoo , because they were soo busy and there were constantly 10 people writing at once. Nowadays it's all just dead. And their irc-replacement matrix rooms are dead as well.

 

[Ferryman]

Idt this got posted about in the wake of the Canonical nonce, but Lunduke has a new video kvetching about a FreeBSD dev:

TLDR a tenured FreeBSD dev with over 18 years worth of contributions posted some faggot shit about how israel is a nazi state on the official wiki, then Lunduke kvetched until it got shoah'd and the dev got (temporarily(?)) suspended from being able to commit to the project. On one hand politisperging in project documentation is as gay as it gets, yet on the other, I can't help but feel like Lunduke is a bit of a faggot for ostensibly trying to throw the CoC book at this guy. A specific quote Lunduke shows in his email correspondence with the FreeBSD team goes

"Does FreeBSD plan any response to this? Any comment you'd like to make? / I plan to publish a story around this in roughly 5 hours - if you would like to provide any details, clarifications, or comments simply send them over before then."

Jesus Christ the arrogance. Just goes to show that jouros are faggots regardless of what political camp they belong to. Lunspook apologists can tongue my ass, this is faggot behavior to the bone. I get removing this guy's sperging from the FreeBSD wiki, but spamming them for "comments" and whether they've removed him from the project is exactly the kidna shit nobody in FOSS should support. FreeBSD ended up closing all convos on the matter and warns against starting it again under threat of forum suspension.

Just faggot shit across the board, but moreso from Loonspook's side than the other. I find their decision to 'temporarily' suspend the dev somewhat questionable, but also kind of understandable given that he misused project documentation in a very similar way to what Jeremy Bicha did (only he is not a convicted child rapist, just a politisperg). Their subsequent pruning of sperging on this topic is also probably a good choice. Shitflinging like this should have no place in technical discussion forums, so that's a + for FreeBSD in my book.

 

[Cuckoman]

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Source: https://lucyllewy.com/post-conference-report-las-2023/

Kiwifrens, you disappoint me.
I was told kiwifarms was immensly transphobic, but I have not seen any derogatory comments, or any comments at all, about that he is also a crossdresser.

Anyone surprised that this degenerate is also a crossdresser, i.e. troon?
Absolutely zero chance that Canonical will fire him. He has the troon shield.

EDIT: no wait, I got them wrong. He is the faggot that is third from the left. The troon is first from the left but he looks almost exactly like him.
Why does the troon in the picture look like a dead-ringer for the child raper?

 

[Itchy Hemorrhoids]

I mean, Lunduke has a point. If you're going to go through and do purity tests because you don't want a "Nazi bar" and then do this, you have a "pedo bar."

This is all so exhausting because if you just held to the social norms of like 20 years ago everyone could get along and quit purging each other and try to focus on the product.

Reductio ad absurdum doesn't even fucking capture it when you have a company that has all of this fluffy DEI shit willingly, knowingly employing a convicted sex offender who raped his own sister.

 

[KingFrampt]

Kiwifrens, you disappoint me.
I was told kiwifarms was immensly transphobic, but I have not seen any derogatory comments, or any comments at all, about that he is also a crossdresser.

Anyone surprised that this degenerate is also a crossdresser, i.e. troon?
Absolutely zero chance that Canonical will fire him. He has the troon shield.

EDIT: no wait, I got them wrong. He is the faggot that is third from the left. The troon is first from the left but he looks almost exactly like him.
Why does the troon in the picture look like a dead-ringer for the child raper?

The comparison is really uncanny isn't it?

 

[SCV]

Does Canonical only hire childless fags and trannies? I ask this because, one reason not to have a chomo in your company is because if you ever wanted to host say a family day where people bring their kids to the office or a retreat somewhere. Having a chomo makes that 100% less safe and a logistical nightmare.

I get the sentiment but where the fuck do you live with companies that do family events? As if you expected to work anywhere for more than 5 years let alone try to get the next generation interested in what dad does for a living. Do they have full height cubicles there?

 

[KingFrampt]

I get the sentiment but where the fuck do you live with companies that do family events? As if you expected to work anywhere for more than 5 years let alone try to get the next generation interested in what dad does for a living. Do they have full height cubicles there?

My previous employment used to throw huge summer fairs every year with carnival type games like hook-a-duck, bbq food etc.

 

[cybertoaster]

Being far left is irrelevant when he just sounds like a terrible person to be around in all areas.

Thing is this happens a lot with the far left, not just the ones on tech but all those groups seem to harbor literal criminals and said assholes instead of again STFU and enjoy the fact they are making good money instead of rotting in a halfway house they go and start shit thus bringing attention to their sketchy past.

It has to be some kind of mental condition, a narcissistic disorder...

 

[SCV]

A long time ago, Linux/FOSS used to be mostly libertarians, Ron Paul types.

Where the FUCK are they?

They tried to warn you. You didn't listen.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

There are lots of IRC logs that might have some gems hidden

https://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/10/15/%23edubuntu.html#t17:08

Archived the two you posted:

https://archive.ph/GRU5n

https://archive.ph/R2s8E

Idt this got posted about in the wake of the Canonical nonce, but Lunduke has a new video kvetching about a FreeBSD dev:

What is that thud noise at 2:04, 6:34, 7:47? Is this nigga playing Morrowind?

I will Jew it up at Lunduke's house and play some OpenMW, because they got dozens of emails about it and obviously had to choose between being professional or not.

 

[Zeftax]

"Many eyes make all bugs shallow!" - Eric S. Raymond, retard at large

 

[SCV]

Ah! Artix was the one I was thinking off. How bad is the poz on that one (politically, not technologically)?

I've posted these before but

Spoiler

I LITERALLY JUST SWITCHED FROM MINT TO UBUNTU LAST WEEK FML

yah but it has wayland and i wanted to try it out on my main rig bc my laptop uses arch and hyprland. I noticed i didnt have the same issues related to x as i did on wayland.

This is a legitimate question. Who the fuck uses nigbutu? Every time I hear someone say they use it or they're surprised it's pozzed I wonder if they're serious or not. Like just read the name and you should be informed. And if you want braindead simple use PopOs or something.

what richard stallman did was obviously small potatoes compared to this.

What did stallman do?

Caring about the politics of people who make your software is about as relevant as their favourite colour. Whatever happened to using the best software for your use case?

I've never understood this take. Ideological zealots can and will put traps in their code to fuck with you. If that sounds ridiculous then you're a moron because it's already happened. Node-IPC put out a version that would try to wipe your comp if you had a russian IP.

In the year 2020, their IRC activity was 80% less than in 2010.

They probably moved to pedocord.

 

[moocow]

What did stallman do?

If memory serves, he responded in an email thread in his usual autistic manner with an autistic reply that could be loosely misconstrued as support for reducing the age of consent in the US. Naturally this isn't what he actually said, and that doesn't matter, because the faggots pounced on it anyway and convinced MIT to drum him out. It was disgusting, especially since most of them actually want to touch kids.

 

[SCV]

If memory serves, he responded in an email thread in his usual autistic manner with an autistic reply that could be loosely misconstrued as support for reducing the age of consent in the US. Naturally this isn't what he actually said, and that doesn't matter, because the faggots pounced on it anyway and convinced MIT to drum him out. It was disgusting, especially since most of them actually want to touch kids.

Stop being so helpful goddamnit. I already knew that. I was just trying to get this guy to try and give an actual answer so he would realize it's literally just smear campaign so he would stop going around saying RMS "did" anything.

 

[i440BX]

What did stallman do?

This is a "Pot calling the kettle nigger" situation. Stallman autistically talked about ethics of sex with minors (not that he wants to do that, but he was autistic about if any harm is done)

But trannies and other cockroaches twisted RMS's words and accused him of pedophilia, while they actually are pedophiles\enjoy lolicon toddler porn\trooning kids\grooming kids with pozz.

I am trying to not be MATI but there is this popular linux tuber named The Linux Experiment and it is a pretty big channel. He presents news regarsing Linux and FOSS.

This fucking French turd signed the letter that condemned RMS. He attacked any non orthodox projects like Hyperland, Xlibre and he defends the trannies from RedHat. I want this fucker to get BTFO the same as DrewDeVault, Marcan, Bicha etc.

 

[meniche]

Jesus Christ the arrogance. Just goes to show that jouros are faggots regardless of what political camp they belong to. Lunspook apologists can tongue my ass, this is faggot behavior to the bone. I get removing this guy's sperging from the FreeBSD wiki, but spamming them for "comments" and whether they've removed him from the project is exactly the kidna shit nobody in FOSS should support

Lunduke killed all the goodwill he got from reporting about the child rapist on the very next day.
It would have been smart to wait a bit. But well, here we are.... putting someone, who makes a political statement on a wiki, into the same drawer as a multi-year child rapist.

This is a legitimate question. Who the fuck uses nigbutu? Every time I hear someone say they use it or they're surprised it's pozzed I wonder if they're serious or not

I use it on all my servers. Not because i want to, but because i ended up with it. Whenever i tried something else, it eventually caused some annoyance that i didn't like. Ubuntu is a very good server os in my opinion. You can forget about it for years, then apt-get update and be certain that it will be fine..
It also blows RedHat out of the water. RedHats "community" distros rugpull you (CentOS), and their Enterprise distro is full of quirks and specific retardation (XFS file system) and you need a PhD in quantum physics to write SELinux policies and they constantly attempt to jew you:

We don't have this in RHEL repos, just get it from rpmfusion or as flatpack or docker - WHOOP WHOOP WHOOP no enterprise support on this third party repo! One of our own packages is crap? Bad luck! You enabled this unrelated repo, so its none of our business!

Using Ubuntu on Desktop however, in *the current year*, is objectively stupid. Canonical has no game in Desktop development anymore. They feast on the vomit that RedHat tards in GNOME produce, with slight modifications. You don't get any benefits from having a company run distribution. You get the big huge corpo cock up your ass for no tangible benefits, but with obvious downsides (snaps shilling). Might just go for any random Community distro instead.

This is a "Pot calling the kettle nigger" situation. Stallman autistically talked about ethics of sex with minors (not that he wants to do that, but he was autistic about if any harm is done)

Specifically, Stallman emphasized that "child" means "prepubescent". So some teenagers doing things at 17yo, should not be treated the same as child rape.

Troons sperged out about that, and then digged out a case where Stallman was cringe to an adult post-wall woman decades ago.

I do agree with Stallmans stance. Equalizing child porn with "teenagers having sex" is downplaying the utter depravity and harm that an actual pedophile does.... also makes sense that troons are angry at people who acknowledge that difference.

 

[CEO of Gay]

Least privilege is good when it's the least amount of privilege needed to do your job not the least amount of privilege possible so that nothing fucking works. And I bet the "security" of all the workarounds you mention in your edit which are re-implemented independently several times (meaning each implementation will have it's own fun and exciting vulnerabilities) is awful. There's no meaningful security to be gained once you're running untrusted code. If some app is willing to key log you the people who made it aren't going to just say "well shucks, this guy is running wayland. guess we can't keylog them. oh well".

At best if wayland was a step towards good sandboxing it is putting the cart WAY before the horse. In reality it's a shit pile pushed by redhat for hostile ends by useful idiot trannies who get off on making people suffer. This whole thing is literally just "security comes at the expense of convenience which comes at the expense of security" spread over 15 years but with corpos + trannies.

This "least privilege needed to do your job" being truncated to "least privilege" and then interpreted literally is a very mid-wit take on the concept. Security folks are their own worst enemy when they push excess measures that get in the way of people doing their job. You can give a person all the security training in the world, and teach them the importance of following procedure, never sharing passwords, and all that other shit. But if all the the security controls put into place keep someone from doing their job, that person will find a way to defeat those controls. All too often, the result is even less secure than if you had just left the person alone, with all security controls being defeated or ripped out wholesale, even those controls that were useful and appropriate, and not just the ones that would have prevented getting work done.

Wayland's autistic over-focus on "least privilege" reminds me of mid-wit security folks in this way.

It is better than a community of troons. Fuck Linux. At least Microsoft gave us Xbox and Halo.

Without Linux and other open source projects, not only would Null not be able to provide us this comfy webzone where we can point and laugh at retarded drama, there very likely wouldn't be an Internet to be excommunicated from for wrongthink.

Theo de Raadt being kicked out of FreeBSD, causing the birth of OpenBSD, many such cases!

Small autistic point of order: Theo was booted from NetBSD, of which he was one of the founding devs. FreeBSD is it its own branch of the family tree. Both NetBSD and FreeBSD were forked from 386BSD.

 

[i440BX]

dt this got posted about in the wake of the Canonical nonce, but Lunduke has a new video kvetching about a FreeBSD dev:

Yeah, that's a black marble for Lunduke. He let his obsession about IDF/Israel cloud his judgement. He did the same shit as trannies from FreeDesktop.
I still think he will present useful stuff, but this video left a sour taste in my mouth.

 

[meniche]

I want to upload the total of Ubuntu IRC logs, which has 2.1 GB of text files.
What service do you usually use for that?

 

[The Mat Harris]

A long time ago, Linux/FOSS used to be mostly libertarians, Ron Paul types.

Where the FUCK are they?

I think it's a combination of various things. I also don't think it was libertarians but mostly techno anarchists which can be pushed in various directions politically.

For one thing the companies that funded linux desktop development changed. RedHat is now full of H-1Bs for example. Canonical completely abandonned the desktop.

The the young desktop developer groups themselves are sometimes full of Europeans and typically big city Europeans which tend to be just communist. This can also be applied to various young American devs that live in big cities.

Another factor is the money. There is effectively no money to be made in the Linux desktop right now. And every attempt to make money is met with shrieking retard commies that claim it's no longer free software.

The smart libertarian ex linux users are now on Twitter promoting their new software that they sell. Or they made their own smaller Linux companies.

We completely ignored the fact that 10 to 15 years ago all the new devs coming into linux were a bunch of liberals and commies were actively indoctrinating them.