Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Fandom Pulse made a coverage on this predator recently.

Jeremy Bicha - A Child Sexual Predator Built Your Desktop​

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The more media that report these facts, the better.

#NotMyDesktop

 

[AnOminous]

Granted. I would too. I was just being somewhat charitable in saying that my first instinct wouldn't be something as horrifically awful as what he did.

I'm not terribly inclined to be charitable. If they can manage to dig up that someone said faggot on Twitter 15 years ago, they can certainly Google someone and notice the first hit on them is they're a registered sex predator (a classification that can have you locked up in the irl version of Arkham Asylum for life) guilty of hundreds of sadistic rapes against prepubescent children.

The only real conclusion is they don't give a shit. It's totally fine with them.

 

[volatile puar]

I don't know about you but if I saw that I would dig further and look at the court documents for myself. There's no reason to assume it's just "horny teens being dumb" or whatever.

You don't need to look further, "Juvenile sexual predator raped a child under the age of 12" is sufficient knowledge. Being a juvie doesn't suddenly make this an understandable oopsie, any more than if it was "juveniles lure their friend innawoods and sacrifice her to Slenderman" or "juvenile scams people on pump dot fun and then does it again while pretending to apologize". Children are moral agents from the age of seven, and some things are extremely obvious even to the dumbest niggers, one of which is that prebuscent children are not sexual objects.

 

[Room Temp Shrimp]

You know, you'd think a guy who raped his little sisters and cannot hide that fact from any opsec osint due to being on a registry would keep his head low due to the fact that anyone could dig up his past in 5 minutes. Perhaps keep his political opinions to himself even. But no, I guess fucking not. The fact is that this man felt so comfortable in his own skin, and if he didn't do what he did then nobody would really even know anything about him right now.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Some Reddit takes courtesy of Lunduke:
https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/1lzrawr/why_is_debian_allowing_a_serial_abuser_of/ (archive)

The fact is that this man felt so comfortable in his own skin, and if he didn't do what he did then nobody would really even know anything about him right now.

Extreme comfiness is one reason he would dare to rail against "Nazis". Or maybe it was an example of someone prone to impulsive behavior.

 

[Overly Serious]

You know, you'd think a guy who raped his little sisters and cannot hide that fact from any opsec osint due to being on a registry would keep his head low due to the fact that anyone could dig up his past in 5 minutes. Perhaps keep his political opinions to himself even. But no, I guess fucking not. The fact is that this man felt so comfortable in his own skin, and if he didn't do what he did then nobody would really even know anything about him right now.

He's apparently been in an environment where nobody cares for some years now, and where so long as he makes the correct political indications such as defacing someone's Github page by calling them a Nazi, all is forgiven. He simply forgot there was a world outside the cult.

 

[filthypenguin]

Hot take:

I think Canonical's initial hiring of the guy is fine. He's unfortunately not been shot or imprisoned, and Canonical doesn't have the authority to execute him, so refusing to hire him just means he's going to have to work for some other company, or live off our taxes, or commit robbery. I personally don't think that Ubuntu's code is worse if a pedophile wrote it, or a tranny, or a communist, or a Nazi, or whatever; and I wouldn't care if my co-worker was a pedo tranny in a fursuit if all I have to do is look at their code and not their face. If you're going to make a pedophile have a job, working on code where they never have to interact with a child or the general public is probably one of the best ones you could give him from a child safety standpoint. As long as he's not put on a stage or making decisions that involve morality, it's probably fine.

Now, he's gone and decided to make judgements on people and try to get other projects fucked up based on some kind of moral reasons despite being more veritably evil than almost everyone who's ever lived. If he hadn't been trying to do that, no one would have ever looked into him, and he'd presumably still be employed.

It makes me wonder if Canonical fired him solely to save face for hiring a pedophile, or if they fired him for creating political drama where there didn't need to be. I would fire him for the second reason, the same as I would fire anyone else who tried to insert politics, religion, or sex into their job. But either way, I don't think Canonical did anything wrong by hiring him to begin with. Maybe they should have kept a closer eye on him and told him to knock it off early on, but that's about it.

 

[meniche]

Charitably if I saw a line item for a sexual offence from someone when they were 14 I might assume it wasn't anywhere near as bad as his actually is. Largely because for a while now you've been able to get on the register for simply saying the wrong thing online or someone changing their mind the next week

In that case, they do have the opportunity to admit this.
It doesn't hurt them to say: "We checked him, he told us, but we didn't realize the magnitude of this crime, so we let go of him now. We will do better in the future".

But i wouldn't do this best-case assumption here anyway. Reading that report of how incredibly nosy Canonical is in their interviews, there is no chance that they didn't know what this case was about..

 

[AnOminous]

If you're going to make a pedophile have a job, working on code where they never have to interact with a child or the general public is probably one of the best ones you could give him from a child safety standpoint. As long as he's not put on a stage or making decisions that involve morality, it's probably fine.

He's literally at a conference right now interacting with the general public while Debian desperately tries to conceal the fact that he's a menace to that very public.

 

[Markass the Worst]

refusing to hire him just means he's going to have to work for some other company

Not if everybody refuses to hire him, as they should.

Now, he's gone and decided to make judgements on people and try to get other projects fucked up based on some kind of moral reasons despite being more veritably evil than almost everyone who's ever lived. If he hadn't been trying to do that, no one would have ever looked into him, and he'd presumably still be employed.

You're confusing tactics and morals. From his perspective, the right tactic would be to lay low and not stir up shit, yes. From a moral perspective, he should die.

 

[break these cuffs]

He's literally at a conference right now interacting with the general public while Debian desperately tries to conceal the fact that he's a menace to that very public.

A conference they invite children to. They want a man who's committed thousands of violent sexual assaults against children to represent their company to children.

 

[David Brown]

But either way, I don't think Canonical did anything wrong by hiring him to begin with

Your username is fitting. I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you didn't actually read what that sick freak did.

 

[volatile puar]

People who abuse positions of power should not be employed in positions of power. Being a notable developer in the FOSS world is not in the strictest sense a position of power, but it is a distinguished position among a certain audience, just like being a Youtuber. It is incredibly likely that someone like Bicha could use this position to groom impressionable teenagers into regrettable acts.

 

[Gorton Colu]

Generic loonix request incoming:

Look you queers, I understand that Ubuntu is pozzed and Canonical is retarded and gay.

However, I need an XCFE distro that just werks. If Xubuntu is not a good option due to faggotry, I'm going to need a based distro that I won't have to spend much time keeping up and running on a Laptop.

Is anyone able to recommend some options?

 

[DavidS877]

He's literally at a conference right now interacting with the general public while Debian desperately tries to conceal the fact that he's a menace to that very public.

In the past it certainly seems that families were welcome at DebConf as they mention having child care and day trips for attendees. Seems like the last place you'd send a sexual predator, or maybe the first if you're Canonical.

Generic loonix request incoming:

Look you queers, I understand that Ubuntu is pozzed and Canonical is retarded and gay.

However, I need an XCFE distro that just werks. If Xubuntu is not a good option due to faggotry, I'm going to need a based distro that I won't have to spend much time keeping up and running on a Laptop.

Is anyone able to recommend some options?

You know there's a Linux thread, right? With 7% less Bicha bitching.

 

[meniche]

and Canonical doesn't have the authority to execute him, so refusing to hire him just means he's going to have to work for some other company, or live off our taxes, or commit robbery. I personally don't think that Ubuntu's code is worse if a pedophile wrote it

That would be alright, IF Ubuntu wouldn't be a company on a "moral" agenda.
They do police your moral values if you contribute to FOSS. Not only Bicha does this, but Canonical as a whole as a corporate entity. It is their declared goal as well.
Just get a glimpse of what is going on there:

https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/an-apology/57863

Ubuntu specifically does not want people who hide in a hole and do their own thing, that is unwanted.
And Bicha doesn't do coding, he does packaging. Which is a mostly simple, tiresome and mundane task. But it requires much more social interaction.

 

[Markass the Worst]

In the past it certainly seems that families were welcome at DebConf they mention having child care and day trips for attendees. Seems like the last place you'd send a sexual predator, or maybe the first if you're Canonical.

If children aren't allowed at DebConf then they should make it clear and explain why.

 

[Overly Serious]

and I wouldn't care if my co-worker was a pedo tranny in a fursuit if all I have to do is look at their code and not their face.

I would. Because the sum total of everything I care about doesn't begin and end with somebody's code. There's a place for pure meritocracy. It's actually my default state.

But the world would be better off if he were dead and I stand by that. I imagine his victims do, as well.

 

[reactionary]

Generic loonix request incoming:

Look you queers, I understand that Ubuntu is pozzed and Canonical is retarded and gay.

However, I need an XCFE distro that just werks. If Xubuntu is not a good option due to faggotry, I'm going to need a based distro that I won't have to spend much time keeping up and running on a Laptop.

Is anyone able to recommend some options?

I hear Mint is still pretty decent. It usually comes with Cinnamon, but there's an XFCE edition too. It's Ubuntu-based, though, but I don't think it matters much.

 

[Ferryman]

Its too little too late, the muckrakers can tote this story day and night, the chomo attended the conference and everyone involved will face zero (0) tangible repercussions. Debian will not change, Ubuntu will not change, and big corporations will keep platforming freaks like Bicha, Ariadne, Hector and all the other loony troons. They """"fire"""" him to satisfy the normgroids that won't look too deep into the situation and that will be that. One can only pray for an asteroid to strike RH/IBM headquarters in an act of divine intervention.