AI Art Seething General

[AmpleApricots]

That could've been a common sentiment back when digital art first started among artists used to traditional media

It was, I was around when digital art became a thing (as opposed to traditional media) and while there was no social media and therefore you didn't hear the opinion of every single retard on this matter it was generally not taken all that seriously by many and seen as a fad that will pass, just like "computers at home" in general. Definitively lots of "If you need a computer to do X, you are no true master of X" commenting though. The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

I think that's because of "social media" that is always available 24-7 on "smartphones", which could be the root cause of Clown World.

 

[Lovely Kin]

The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

Because the smartphones gave every village idiot a megaphone, now they can spam everywhere, and the average person falls for the baiting and begins raging at everything.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Because the smartphones gave every village idiot a megaphone, now they can spam everywhere, and the average person falls for the baiting and begins raging at everything.

I honestly think this is one of those causation/correlation things. The average person has always fallen for bait and that sort of bullshit, they've always raged at things. One of the main things I remember as a kid was those fucking 'take me out' tier gossip magazines. People would get pissed off because some random celebrity half the way around the world said something about some other celebrity that no one knew about until last week. They also fell for the 'benefit scrounger' lie that was the basis of all ragebait over here for a decade or more, all because the government wanted a way to cut public spending and increase their pay cheque and have the people applaud them as they did so. Even on here. There's people on this site that get pissed off at similarly pointless things, raging at some paedo or tranny online realistically won't do anything. Outside of things that should be reported to police, if you meet this site with anything other than indifference or jest you have already lost. This site is basically just the evolution of those drama magazines anyway. This is an obscure thread in a small subsection of a forum a fraction of a percentage of even the most dedicated internet drama fans know about. We are not anything close to the 'average' person, none of the people talked about here are either, most actually normal people are completely unaware this 'deate' even exists. Just for reference mr beast videos get the same amount of views that twitter has daily users. Sure maybe every mentalcase in the country now has a megaphone, but so do all the people with normal lives and opinions, after a while you just get used to the noise level of that constant megaphone and everyone might as well not have one. The entirety of society has become bipartizanal, happened way before the internet when it was just the news pushing the them vs us mindset.

It's easy to point at the internet and say that it ruined society, while it does have a shit tonne of flaws many of the things that people point to predate the internet, it's just that now they're visible when they weren't before. The reality is is that if you put down the phone and go outside and talk to anyone, like you would before the internet, then they will most likely be the same. I can go down the local and ask the bartender there about his opinion on AI and he will probably reply with something similar to if it was 20 years ago and I asked him about his opinion on Kyle Minogue and what she said about Brittney's belly button. People have always been vitriolic about art, from the people that would go around trying to vandalise photography exhibits (don't quote me on that though) to the people that would call you the absolute scum of the earth for even considering using something as blashphemous as a computer to draw, even to the historical shit of oil painters and their opinions on watercolour painters and that shit, there have always been people that get irrationally angry over absolute nothingness, that's just how some people are. It's just that instead of being printed in some niche magazine or convention or just shouted at a wall in their house, instead now they do it on twitter. The vast majority of people fucking hate it when you shout at them and demand you believe in their beliefs, it will hurt your cause if you do that, cough cough transgenderism. I have yet to meet a single person in my private life who will say anything with the vitriol that online people do. Spoken to people who say they love playing around with it, people who think it's a cool novelty, people that dislike what it makes, even people that think it's a waste of time and a shit technology. I have never met anyone who will do everything short of letting out a genuine reeeeeeee at me. I can find someone like that in seconds online.

People haven't changed; the way you see them has.

 

[weirdMcGee]

The vitriol was nowhere on this level though, but I think that's just society in general now.

You still needed to draw digital art with your own hands compared to ai. That didn't stop elist from sperging about it. Compare to now, more and more people gained empathy for digital artist once they realize the computer wasn't doing all the work and it still takes a lot of skill to draw regardless of medium. Photography also requires skill, and with photoshop making it easy to edit photos, it became a artform in itself.

 

[AmpleApricots]

That didn't stop elist from sperging about it.

Back in the day, and I don't know if many people know this or remember this anymore, the thing that gave artists existential angst was undo/saving of versions. Yes really, what art people got really riled up about digital art was that you could correct mistakes, which is not always possible in traditional mediums, and certainly not endlessly. With digital art, you can try over and over again until you get something right. How often can you objectively correct a pencil drawing? Correcting your mistakes/going back to earlier versions of the same piece was then making the art "soulless" because it had no character and was "too perfect", "cookie cutter" and so on. This was a big thing. It's funny because it sounds so alien to most ears now and even all these "100% humanely and naturally raised art" artists wouldn't even consider their undo function as tool of the devil. Wouldn't even cross their mind. That's how views can change over time. People basically develop a fantasy of a "good old time" that frankly never existed. Tbh, even back then this was basically just grasping at straws of people who did not want to change their ways, just as it is now.

A lot of the early pixel/cracktro scene art was people painstakingly digitizing movie frames, advert art, album covers and the like, violating all sorts of copyrights. Even in videogames you'd find things that were clearly from completely unrelated media, like movies. Nobody cared because nobody knew, computers were sort of a lawless area in general and law enforcement/courts didn't really know what to do, over- and under-reacting to crimes in these areas, depending on personality. Anyways - for example there was no rule or system to pixel art, everyone just did whatever with whatever the limitations of the system in question did let you get away with. Now you google how to draw pixel art and there all sorts of autistic rules to do Objectively Correct Pixel Art (tm) and it's all garbage because it lacks any sort of creative thought.

tl;dr people decide by feels about things, not objectively.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Right so first I can't go on my silly little internet drama forum, then they ban all the sexy diaper shitting smegma loras, now I can't even fucking go on the site at all?

Fucking hell. What a lovely country. The biggest seethe is me right now. I am the ai art seether. I've said before, keep meaning to upgrade gpu, I've been planning to do so for years now, I was going to just do it when windows 10 support stops and switch from chrome and windows to firefox/tor and linux. I guess I need to start looking at gpus even harder now then? I mean at least tor is basically the same speed as my actual internet on non onion links nowadays.

Between this, the previous censorship and the steam shit. Government fucking hates fun. Banks hate fun. Society hates fun. Fucking world hates fun. "Let's pass a law to protect kids from bad people online" - the group of people that covered up for gang rapists and are currently importing thousands of rapists into the country. Starting to think I should drop the current job and make that sidestep into carpentry, those French fucks I hear they made some good inventions a couple hundred years ago. Yea ttd tnd tpd tid all that shit, but most importantly. Total politician death. Now.

Used to rule the world, seas would rise when we gave the word type shit. Inventors of industry and the most powerful empire in history. Now a sad shithole filled with rapists and, even worse, politicians. Used to be able to leave the house and go buy an entire island and enslave the whole population, now I can't even Asuka penis jar/vase transformation nipple eyes ai image generation without fucking doxing yourself to the government that will throw you in jail for 3 years for saying 'wow there sure do seem to be a lot of rapists on them boats'. I'm calling it now, 10 years from here at most and we will have our own Chinese firewall. Can't even say I wish that people would do something about it, half the people here aren't even English, they don't give a shit as long as they get tax payer money and white women to rape. I hope that the sun doesn't set on the british empire, I hope it fucking crashes on it, specifically right into london and all the people there get evaporated in an instant.

I say this without any form of neither genuine or performative hyperbole, I mean this 1:1 and genuinely, I fucking hope that all of these companies send the uk the same 'fuck off you authoritarian faggots you have no jurisdiction over us' letters that null sent for this same shit. As much as I fucking love this country (the country, not the people that live in the south) and as much as I fucking despise americans and consider them to be the some of the worst people I have ever had to interact with. Can you guys do another one of those revolutionary wars please? I just want london to get it's shit pushed in again. Is that really too much to ask for? Like can you guys just go full 180 on london and go from a colony of ours to the other way around. All I ask for is that our 'cultural enrichment' is being able to own guns and freedom of speech absolutism instead of a nigger cock in your 10 year old daughter.

 

[Two Dollars]

Time Extension writer Damien McFerran has gone from passive-aggressive smugposting to full-on REEEEEEing, complete with paragraphs of screeching about muh AI bros, talking about how easily they get scammed (even though the content of the article doesn’t mention anything being sold), the death of human creativity, and some whining about Elon Musk for good measure.

What could have invoked this wrathful response, you may ask? It may not be for the faint of heart:


Yes, those are the correct screenshots. He lost his shit over some guy typing “lord of the rings super nintendo game” into Grok.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Time Extension writer Damien McFerran has gone from passive-aggressive smugposting to full-on REEEEEEing, complete with paragraphs of screeching about muh AI bros, talking about how easily they get scammed (even though the content of the article doesn’t mention anything being sold), the death of human creativity, and some whining about Elon Musk for good measure.

What could have invoked this wrathful response, you may ask? It may not be for the faint of heart:
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Yes, those are the correct screenshots. He lost his shit over some guy typing “lord of the rings super nintendo game” into Grok.

Wow, what a fucking niggerkike. And why is it always these dipshits that go from the smuggie.jpg into the RAGE.jpg?

 

[Runescape Sperg]

Uh-oh, art xisters.
An AI generated video went viral and people are enjoying it


(Link)
Does that mean that AI is actually able to make something good? Fuck no. It means it's time to cope and seethe pretending it's actually bad because, choose one:
1. There's some minor mistakes
2. It's slop because it just is okay?
3. Actually this is exactly the same as (some game that doesn't look like this)
4. All AI art is stolen so this isn't cool
5. Slop this slop that slop all I can do is say slop when I see AI content

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These retards force themselves to pretend to not enjoy any shit perceived as haram by their faggot community

 

[The Ultimate Ramotith]

Slop this slop that slop all I can do is say slop when I see AI content

THANK YOU!
Because of anti-AI people, the word ‘slop’ goes down salty to me.

 

[KYSing myself brb]

Does that mean that AI is actually able to make something good?

It's always telling when people change their opinion to the polar opposite after they found out who made it. They can't admit to anything that would mean that AI in 5% of cases doesn't produce slop, no, it has to be in 100% of cases totally garbage, otherwise they'd have to admit that their side is flawed and not 100% right with everything. Either total victory for their stupid camp they side with or nothing, but certainly not a non-absolute position, and it's such an infantile thinking really.

 

[Diesel Boogaloo]

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Yes, those are the correct screenshots. He lost his shit over some guy typing “lord of the rings super nintendo game” into Grok.

Nigga could have typed it into Google to find out there actually was a Lord of the Rings game for SNES:

In fact, there was a shitton of retro Tolkien video games: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Middle-earth_video_games
The accurate information is out there, at your fingertips, but AI faggots just prefer to consume hallucinated slop.

 

[Coolio55]

Time Extension writer Damien McFerran has gone from passive-aggressive smugposting to full-on REEEEEEing, complete with paragraphs of screeching about muh AI bros, talking about how easily they get scammed (even though the content of the article doesn’t mention anything being sold), the death of human creativity, and some whining about Elon Musk for good measure.

What could have invoked this wrathful response, you may ask? It may not be for the faint of heart:
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Yes, those are the correct screenshots. He lost his shit over some guy typing “lord of the rings super nintendo game” into Grok.

Personally I can't wait until I can generate Bart Simpson Castlevania for PC ENGINE.

 

[Outer Space Traveller]

Uh-oh, art xisters.
An AI generated video went viral and people are enjoying it
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(Link)
Does that mean that AI is actually able to make something good? Fuck no. It means it's time to cope and seethe pretending it's actually bad because, choose one:
1. There's some minor mistakes
2. It's slop because it just is okay?
3. Actually this is exactly the same as (some game that doesn't look like this)
4. All AI art is stolen so this isn't cool
5. Slop this slop that slop all I can do is say slop when I see AI content

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These retards force themselves to pretend to not enjoy any shit perceived as haram by their faggot community

I seriously hate these faggots. They refuse to accept that - with the correct treatment and inputs from a user who wants to generate something good; akin to a chef who wants to prepare a good dish, is willing to produce something good.
YET! Solely because a "machine" does it, it's "le bad". "Also because im an insufferable tranny shitlib btw"

Some people really should just focus on getting better at their craft, and see in the machine as an ally.

 

[rosecig]

Some people really should just focus on getting better at their craft, and see in the machine as an ally.

Most of these tranny $50 commission to help me escape my toxic roommate accounts on Twitter are shit artists that couldn't incorporate AI into their designs even if they wanted to while still being something people would pay for. They were people who would draw your profile pic or furry art or something like that, but their style was generic Tumblr shit, and they weren't coming up with their own ideas, so once people can generate that stuff on their own, they have nothing people want anymore. They have little to no skill to build off of to use the machine as an ally, which is why they are mortally offended by its use.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

These retards force themselves to pretend to not enjoy any shit perceived as haram by their faggot community

I love when they admit to themselves that most people don't give a shit. Even without realising what that means exactly. I love when it sets in that fucking no one cares about their online crusade and that the general public are entirely unaware of the years they have spent going on and on and on and on and on about. All those words they've said and not one has been heard by anyone outside your little online circlejerk. That's the real art from that post.

Also I fucking despise gimmick accounts. They all have this fucking ego that because they got a few thousand people to follow them for that gimmick they think that it means that those thousands of people must be interested in their own opinions. They see big follower number and assume that it's there for them instead of the content they freebooted. So they get this ego that tells them to slag off the gimmick part and just start politisperging on that account. Also the fucking irony of an account which would have screenshotted or even freebooted content all for their own personal gain being against AI is beautiful. You are 'guilty' of the exact same 'crimes' that AI has 'done', with gimmick accounts normally much worse than AI. But no please tell me about how AI is bad and use the platform you built from other people's posts to shill a game because that's more ethical.

 

[Runescape Sperg]

I love when they admit to themselves that most people don't give a shit. I love when it sets in that fucking no one cares about their online crusade and that the general public are entirely unaware of the years they have spent going on and on and on and on and on about. All those words they've said and not one has been heard by anyone outside your little online circlejerk. That's the real art from that post.

They never learn from it. They never learn that the average person just wants to watch or play whatever looks cool. That's why they can think that J.K Rowling is the second coming of Hitler, yet anything with the name Harry Potter slapped on it sells out immediately because normal people love that shit.

Same with AI stuff. People think it's neat that you can get a program to make something funny or cool looking. It's nice that you can just get a decent drawing of something you thought of without the insane skill floor required to draw it yourself. No real person thinks chatGPT accelerates climate change and steals people's art and jobs every time you use it or whateverthefuck.

They will just keep seething and then being shocked when people don't fucking care

 

[xertruglia]

It pisses me off when people at work show me something they made with ai. It's always someone borderline retarded showing me their little fictional world and roleplay profiles they made for all their imaginary friends. Just slop junk. Looks like crap too. You can always tell.

 

[Coolio55]

It pisses me off when people at work show me something they made with ai. It's always someone borderline retarded showing me their little fictional world and roleplay profiles they made for all their imaginary friends. Just slop junk. Looks like crap too. You can always tell.

That actually sounds really fun. I wish that my coworkers were more creative (although I still like them and enjoy working with them)