Diseased Open Source Software Community - it's about ethics in Code of Conducts

[guiltyspark85]

Ctrl+f: child

I can only assume he reads the sexualassualt subreddit for his own sexual gratification.

 

[AnOminous]

Umm, my crimes don't count because I wasn't 18 yet!!1

In most cases, this is literally the rule. You broke some glass. You shoplifted some cigarettes. Maybe you punched someone.

This guy did shit in his teens that has him with a lifelong sex predator registration. That's not even sex offender. That's reserved for the vilest and most depraved of offenses, and apparently, his crimes (delinated in nauseating detail on this thread) were severe enough that even despite being juvenile, he's still registered as a sex PREDATOR, not a mere offender.

Hiring people who “have done their time” means hire blacks who can’t not get thrown into jail.

Considering it seems most sentences these days involve some period of probation or supervision after release, anyone of any race who has "done their time" has also managed to not get thrown in jail for a certain period of time after the initial release.

This particular dude has done shit so heinous that no matter when he did it, he should be under intense supervision forever. I mean frankly I don't think he should be allowed to breathe, that shit should be illegal too, but that's not the world we're living in.

 

[Nozo-miko]

This guy did shit in his teens that has him with a lifelong sex predator registration. That's not even sex offender. That's reserved for the vilest and most depraved of offenses, and apparently, his crimes (delinated in nauseating detail on this thread) were severe enough that even despite being juvenile, he's still registered as a sex PREDATOR, not a mere offender.

If he had been prosecuted in time he would have been tried as an adult for his crimes anyway, the protection that his environment provides to rapists benefited him a lot, unfortunately.

And we still don't know if he's still reoffending.

 

[Unimaginative Username]

The purpose of blanket tolerance + large-scale censorship on Reddit is to normalize pedophilia.

And it's not just Reddit, all the big tech companies are trying to normalize it by forcing the use of the term "CSAM" instead of "child pornography", using a variety of disingenuous arguments. The main effect is to (1) make offenses sound less severe than they are by replacing a term everybody knows with an acronym that sounds like either a database format like ISAM or VSAM, or maybe a sequel to CSGO, and (2) to subtly indoctrinate the public with the idea that the biggest problem with child pornography isn't that it involves children, it's that it involves abuse (phase 2 will be introducing the idea of "non-abusive" child pornography that should be legal to possess).

 

[Vincent Faith]

Jeremy Bicha has apparently been fired from Canonical

 

[Dr. Butt]

the use of the term "CSAM" instead of "child pornography", using a variety of disingenuous arguments.

Umm, Ackychually the reason for CSAM vs. "child porn" is that the word "pornography" technically refers to a consensual act involving informed and legally able to consent paid performers. "Child sexual abuse material" is more accurate and doesn't create any implications that could be used to exonerate pedos in court. Normies are actually more receptive to working to eradicate it now, compared to when "lol kiddie porn" was the comon term. The phrase "child pornography" already implies the lack of abuse you express concern about in your post.

 

[AnOminous]

Umm, Ackychually the reason for CSAM vs. "child porn" is that the word "pornography" technically refers to a consensual act involving informed and legally able to consent paid performers.

It was literally invented by federal prosecutors as a way to increase convictions.

 

[HootersMcBoobies]

And it's not just Reddit, all the big tech companies are trying to normalize it by forcing the use of the term "CSAM" instead of "child pornography", using a variety of disingenuous arguments.

Umm, Ackychually the reason for CSAM vs. "child porn" is that the word "pornography" technically refers to a consensual act involving informed and legally able to consent paid performers. "Child sexual abuse material" is more accurate and doesn't create any implications that could be used to exonerate pedos in court.

Gotta disagree on this one. I think that's the argument people might use for the world change, but we know from the past decade that language choices are intentional ways to change the way we think about meanings and words. It's literally why Orwell came up with the terms Doublespeak and Newspeak.

Child Pornography has a very big impact on people. It sounds disgusting. It probably wouldn't be in another century, but western society has spent a lot of time developing the concept that children should be allowed some years of protection where they are not forced to contend to the harsh realities of life. That probably started around the time of Dr. Spock (child development psychologist) in the 1920/30s. Before that, only children of nobles would have "children's clothing." The serfs, peasants, working class .. their kids dressed in outfits that just look like bigger versions of what they'd wear. Child labor was common. You can argue we overprotect kids to their determent (like in the book The Coddling of the American Mind), but if you don't take it too far, it does seem like giving kids a less stressful environment where we allow some level of innocence has helped develop better adults.

That isn't to say kids are inherently good and not little hellions, but that parents are expected to be stewards of helping them develop in a relatively peaceful environment before they are in the adult world. Child pornography combines the idea of little humans in their protected years where parents try to instill goodness and values, and juxtaposes it to an adult vice. It's suppose to sound bad, because society has grown in a way where it is bad.

I also hate that people like Lunduke keep mixing loli and child porn. Drew DeVault is a fuckhead asshole, but he was caught with a loli addiction. It's still gross. But it's not child porn. Something you draw is a thought crime. Creating child porn literally involves fucking up a real child's entire perceptions of the world. Words matter.

CSAM reduced the very hard hitting disgust of that term into some letters. An acronym. You'll hear YouTubers use terms like "corn," "childcorn," and "potatophiles" to not get demonetized. It's as stupid as "unalive" for suicide and I think it literally reduces the impact of those terms. I don't like saying "pedophile" because the world itself has disgust attached. I've never even had an adult try anything with me as a child, so I honestly don't even know how bad it is. But I've had people close to me who have, and it sounds awful and really fucked them up. So no ... don't use the letters to belittle the world. It's meant to make you feel bad about it.

 

[x10r4]

GENTOOMEN HOW DO WE KEEP WINNING WITHOUT APPEARING SMUG?

SUFFAH SHUTTLEWORTHLESS
Source (Youtube) Made in pure FFmpeg.

 

[SCV]

This slide just appeared on stream

View attachment 7642893

Hey kids, build a forky with the convicted sadistic child rapist!

Eagerly awaiting the screenshot of the promo material about how welcoming DebConf '25 is to young coders.

 

[Ed Special]

Debconf is sponsored by Lenovo. It would be a shame if anyone so inclined informed Lenovo that they're sponsoring a talk given by a child rapist.

I'm conflicted on this. On one hand, no gayops and no pozloading my neghole. On the other hand, I absolutely guarantee that Bicha and at least half the staff at this event have done this exact thing to people they disagree with on gay idpol shit and as such they, if anyone, deserve it.

 

[emergenigger]

GENTOOMEN HOW DO WE KEEP WINNING WITHOUT APPEARING SMUG?

I keep on programming instead of calling my enemies "nazis".


my JS code is still shit

 

[Max Weber]

my JS code is still shit

You repeat yourself.

 

[alphabetnigger]

In most cases, this is literally the rule. You broke some glass. You shoplifted some cigarettes. Maybe you punched someone.

This guy did shit in his teens that has him with a lifelong sex predator registration. That's not even sex offender. That's reserved for the vilest and most depraved of offenses, and apparently, his crimes (delinated in nauseating detail on this thread) were severe enough that even despite being juvenile, he's still registered as a sex PREDATOR, not a mere offender.

Considering it seems most sentences these days involve some period of probation or supervision after release, anyone of any race who has "done their time" has also managed to not get thrown in jail for a certain period of time after the initial release.

This particular dude has done shit so heinous that no matter when he did it, he should be under intense supervision forever. I mean frankly I don't think he should be allowed to breathe, that shit should be illegal too, but that's not the world we're living in.

At 14, I was a fucking retard, but I knew exactly what I was doing. He knew he was a monster. There's no redemption for this fucking guy. I'm not super in tune with the open source community but I hope that broadcast they did earlier got them squirming at least a little with people bringing attention to this guys bullshit in the irc chat. Maybe someone at the venue even said something, but I doubt it.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

I also hate that people like Lunduke keep mixing loli and child porn. Drew DeVault is a fuckhead asshole, but he was caught with a loli addiction. It's still gross. But it's not child porn. Something you draw is a thought crime. Creating child porn literally involves fucking up a real child's entire perceptions of the world. Words matter.

Federally speaking, lolicon is considered child porn, they usually only charge it though when you get caught in addition to CP or they catch you masturbating to it. In theory, lolicon fails the miller test and is obscene before some chomo jerks to it.
No prosecutor wants to try this though due to the feds wanting to fry bigger, easier fish and a possible can of worms legalizing lolicon permanently since the Miller test is a jury question. It is much easier to convince a jury that the displayed evidence of actual child porn images are harmful, versus 2d images.

 

[Eulersnumber]

Hiring people who “have done their time” means hire blacks who can’t not get thrown into jail. Canonical is too retarded to understand that the whole trend of hiring those people was supposed to be yet another affirmative action program, not a license to feed and clothe pedo rapists.

They sure put their thumb on that scale for some reason. Really gets the cortex cantering.

They have job programs in my city for "justice involved" people now. took me a bit to realize that just means ex-con and not that they've done anything just or worked in the justice system or whatever. its bullshit. Can people just not commit fucking crimes?

 

[Overly Serious]

Here's also an archive i've made from the IRC.

Stellar work in grabbing that. They were really quick on banning people, weren't they? Like they were waiting for it. This line annoys me:

[16:16] <ansgar> Ah, the Xlibre/Lunduke fan group is visiting...

A guy sexually tortured his little sisters and other girls and they treat it like the people who have a problem with this are some sort of petty trolls. What mindset thinks like that?

This dude's username straight and to the point:

[17:45] == Bicha_is_a_pedo was kicked from #debconf by pkern [Bicha_is_a_pedo]

All in all, I did a quick search and found 14 matches for "was kicked". Most of them no visible post so auto-kicking based on keywords, I'm guessing? Which heightens their complicity even more if they were downright configuring IRC to block people alerting others about this.

 

[Frederica Bernkastel]

A guy sexually tortured his little sisters and other girls and they treat it like the people who have a problem with this are some sort of petty trolls. What mindset thinks like that?

Libera Chat is filled to the brim with unironic leftypol, /r/communism, Drew Devault and Hector Martin types. It's the mindset of a bunch of nigger faggots.

 

[PeachDream]

Gotta disagree on this one. I think that's the argument people might use for the world change, but we know from the past decade that language choices are intentional ways to change the way we think about meanings and words. It's literally why Orwell came up with the terms Doublespeak and Newspeak.

The term change didn't make child abuse sound worse (because it can't really sound any worse than it already does) rather it helped separate all the nasty stuff from the word 'pornography.' Helped clean up it's image, by artificially separating the dark sides to porn into an entirely different category, because porn is incredibly mainstream now.

 

[CEO of Gay]

We either have a utilitarian society that accepts code from all walks of life, a moralistic society with an agreeable sense of right and wrong, or no society at all. You can't say everybody you disagree with is a Nazi and that Nazis don't get to code, then hire a child rapist. I don't want to live in that world and will contribute to its ruin if I am forced to live in it.

In my own projects, I will continue to accept code from anyone whose contribution, on the whole, furthers the goals of the project. And I do mean, "on the whole". It must work and be useful to the project's goals, fixing a bug, adding a relevant feature, or improving performance. It can't contain its own bugs or backdoors. It must come free of strings preventing me or other users using it however we feel appropriate. Code that adds a useful feature but wrecks performance won't be accepted. Code that fixes a performance issue, but comes with a condition that it can't be used by ICE won't be accepted.

If the offered code can meet that above criteria which makes it useful on the whole, I will accept it, regardless of how much of a sperg the author is. It doesn't matter if that code comes from a mustachioed master race sperg, a sperg with an anime avatar, or a sperg who is on all levels accept physical, a wolf. Even if the sperg personally hates me and preferred that I died horribly, I will still accept his code.

Even with ChatGPT or Copilot now making "vibe coding" possible, writing and contributing actually useful code is non-trivial work. Time spent contributing useful code is time spent not grooming sexually confused teenagers into taking cross-sex hormones and mutilating their genitals, time spent not raping young children, or time spent not waging a war so fucking retardedly that your own generals plot to assassinate you.

I might even accept code from Liz Fong Jones or Corey Barnhill.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't scrutinize the ever-loving fuck out it to prove it was free of malicous bugs, anti-features, or performance regressions. It does not mean I would accept their code if they started trying to use their contributions to socially infiltrate the project. It does not mean that I would trust them at all, about anything else, in any other venue. I certainly wouldn't allow them any status in my project beyond the polite the acceptance of their code, and nothing more. Anyone with any knowledge of their past behavior would know that to do so would lead to the ruin of the project. And I value my project more than I value any fleeting social standing I might gain from trusting them.

This was years before the Kiwi Farms taught me the importance of archiving, so I can't find it again, but I remember reading that at one point, an editor for the Oxford English Dictionary went to visit a man who had been writing letters with useful citations of historic usage. The man turned out to be a violent criminal, locked away in an insane asylum. Afterward, this editor continued to accept the crazy criminal's contributions where they proved correct and useful, and the criminal stayed locked up.

This kind of utilitarian distinction between the flaws of an author and the quality of their contributions used to be more common. I lament the loss of that old hacker culture, and loathe those who have worked to destroy it. May they find themselves ousted from their own projects by the very means they have used to oust the competent.