Official Kiwi Farms Man-Hate Thread - Gorl Tawk's very own DMZ (De-Moidified Zone)

[Mamimi]

Post on the cruise subreddit with a woman asking if her boyfriend will be ok on the cruise because "he is a picky eater and basically only eats spaghetti, chicken fingers, french fries and hamburgers." Ppl correctly started making fun of her boyfriend for being an overgrown retard and for placing the responsibility of feeding himself on his girlfriend.

Only for there to be a huge controversy in the community about "ableism". Men cannot be expected to perform basic adult tasks. That's ableism.

Edit here’s some of what I’m talking about:

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Presumably he's been a picky eater all his life. Shouldn't navigating his preferences be something he's used to at this point? Why can't he call the company or even make a reddit thread himself? I'm guessing he never bothers doing his own research or making arrangements when they go out, so his girlfriend has resigned herself to doing it for him because otherwise he won't eat anything and be grumpy the entire time.

I can't stand picky eaters and they almost always seem to be men. It's fucking obnoxious trying to cook for them or go out to eat because there's so much stuff they won't even touch. I'm not a foodie or anything (and my own diet is somewhat limited because I don't eat meat) but I can't imagine spending my life with someone like that. I lucked out with my Nigel because he'll eat anything you put in front of him and he's perfectly happy to have veggie burgers and tofu.

 

[Catman from cat town]

Moid being a picky eater never had a parent tell them to eat their veggies or their going to bed with dessert.

 

[Tram Fan]

The only way education is remotely "too feminized" is the extreme empathetic response a teacher is expected to have regarding any problem student. As others described, when males dictated education, these kids just got their shit kicked in and/or expelled.

I'm jealous then because in Poland education is still masculine mostly. You just get bullied till you "behave". Egh.

What kind of a rough time? Does he drink, is he a drug user, other "sensitive" issues he doesn't want to talk about? I guess you're at the point it doesn't matter anymore if you're broken up but three years is still a large time + money investment into another person.

JUNKIE not drug user. We women are too empathetic. If somebody can stand injections/inhaling they can stand being called a junkie.

To me forgiveness naturally leads to reconciliation. I've had two relationships that ended in unamicable breakups. Each situation was me being cheated on. Ultimately these were relationships in my early 20s and what I learned about both those experiences was picking better partners and picking up warning signs early on in people, although I learned that in different ways, but what I do agree with in relation to @Synovial Relic's situation is finality. If you make a decision or have a principle then stick to it. "Makeup sex" or trying to rekindle something has never made sense to me.

Yes agreed you girls seem to be thinking of multiple meanings of "forgiveness". In Poland we're taught that it's basically kinda resetting the relationship. So I'm against that approach. Just reach the place in which you're not thinking much of the moid and if you think of him you don't dwell on the thoughts. You may look at his facebook page and scroll further down without over analyzing what you see. Thoughts of the relationship don't trigger you and you don't have to calm down after seeing him in the downtown randomly.

Post on the cruise subreddit with a woman asking if her boyfriend will be ok on the cruise because "he is a picky eater and basically only eats spaghetti, chicken fingers, french fries and hamburgers." Ppl correctly started making fun of her boyfriend for being an overgrown retard and for placing the responsibility of feeding himself on his girlfriend.

Only for there to be a huge controversy in the community about "ableism". Men cannot be expected to perform basic adult tasks. That's ableism.

Waaait we have Chubbyemu's opinion on that already.

This moid is fucked so yeah being mean to him at this point is probably actually ableist.

A lot of autism diagnoses are just males refusing to grow up.

Not men, but women and nonbinaries too. Shrinks should get their shit together and stop this.

A sitting US state governor refused to sign a law banning child marriage.
35 out of 36 (97%) of no votes were from men. So of course there's two sides to this issue

No, it's a very good thread for that.

Presumably he's been a picky eater all his life. Shouldn't navigating his preferences be something he's used to at this point? Why can't he call the company or even make a reddit thread himself? I'm guessing he never bothers doing his own research or making arrangements when they go out, so his girlfriend has resigned herself to doing it for him because otherwise he won't eat anything and be grumpy the entire time.

Ok, imma explain this to you. Firstly his mother was cooking for him till he was 20 something, then his girlfriend. And of course restaurants and other food meetings were handled by the mother. In Poland family meetings have multiple dishes some of which could be just spaghetti though not necessarily. A later part of the meeting is just cakes. So no, he didn't necessarily have to navigate his preferences or something. Oh my.... I just reminded myself of one of the boys I knew when I was a child. He was given like a pound of candy to school when others were given just sandwiches. Ok I don't know how often this would happen but still. Don't feel sorry for him he was a bully. We women should stop spoiling moids. They can cook for themselves. They sometimes meme that the best cooks are men so I'm like if you're better than us in cooking cook yourself.

 

[Safir]

you don't hate libertarian guys enough

Opponents like Representative JJ Humphrey argued that a flat ban eliminates a parent's legal right to guide their child. They maintained that deciding if a 16- or 17-year-old is mature enough to marry should be left entirely to the family, not dictated by the government

The opposite is true, as the fuck above in your screenshot says: a 16- or 17-year old court-emancipated "young woman" can* be argued to have the right to marry, but parents should have no right whatsoever to "guide their [dependent -S] child" to marriage, this is practically the definition of being unable to consent.

* she shouldn't, teen pregnancies are dangerous and they don't become less dangerous just because the girl is really good at dropshipping / number theory / field surgery.

(They should've raised the age of consent to 18, too.)

 

[DeeNaMeeTay]

Presumably he's been a picky eater all his life. Shouldn't navigating his preferences be something he's used to at this point? Why can't he call the company or even make a reddit thread himself? I'm guessing he never bothers doing his own research or making arrangements when they go out, so his girlfriend has resigned herself to doing it for him because otherwise he won't eat anything and be grumpy the entire time.

I can't stand picky eaters and they almost always seem to be men. It's fucking obnoxious trying to cook for them or go out to eat because there's so much stuff they won't even touch. I'm not a foodie or anything (and my own diet is somewhat limited because I don't eat meat) but I can't imagine spending my life with someone like that. I lucked out with my Nigel because he'll eat anything you put in front of him and he's perfectly happy to have veggie burgers and tofu.

Moid being a picky eater never had a parent tell them to eat their veggies or their going to bed with dessert.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

it's interesting to see the parallel between western men idolizing foreign (usually asian) women for being traditional and feminine when we have the same thing going just the opposite direction for these guys here.

They're both confusing "happy to escape poverty" with "happy to marry some foreign retard."

Sorry if this is the wrong thread but
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A sitting US state governor refused to sign a law banning child marriage.
35 out of 36 (97%) of no votes were from men. So of course there's two sides to this issue

you don't hate libertarian guys enough

The opposite is true, as the fuck above in your screenshot says: a 16- or 17-year old court-emancipated "young woman" can* be argued to have the right to marry, but parents should have no right whatsoever to "guide their [dependent -S] child" to marriage, this is practically the definition of being unable to consent.

* she shouldn't, teen pregnancies are dangerous and they don't become less dangerous just because the girl is really good at dropshipping / number theory / field surgery.

(They should've raised the age of consent to 18, too.)

They should have done this long ago at a federal level instead of leaving it up to the states. We don't let states individually decide the age of consent; statutory rape is statutory rape. So why do we allow states to define exceptions for statutory rape if the child's parents consent to marry their kid to the rapist? It's insane that we claim the age of consent is 18, but pedophiles can bypass that by grooming the entire family rather than just the child. (I'm using grooming loosely here; the parents still have a duty to protect their child, and being manipulated doesn't absolve them of that responsibility.) Do we think a pedophile won't just hop state lines and do what he wants where it's legal?

People think child marriage in the US doesn't happen, or that it's usually two teenagers. It does, and it's not. Any law which allows a pedophile to marry his victim should be destroyed, no matter how important pedophile supporters think it is for pregnant teenagers to get married.

https://www.unchainedatlast.org/

https://equalitynow.org/what-we-do/womens-rights-around-the-world/womens-rights-in-north-america/child_marriage_us/

 

[Lain The Tranny Beater]

Forgiveness just means letting go of your anger and resentment toward that person. Forgetting what they did and letting them hurt you again is foolishness. But staying awake at night seething over their behavior changes nothing and isn't mentally healthy.

I think using the word ‘acceptance’ is more fitting to what you’re saying. Like you said, you’re accepting what happened and moving on. You certainly aren’t going to forget, but, I strongly believe, you don’t have to forgive either.

To use the word ‘forgiveness’ implies an intent to absolve the person that slighted you out of piousness. You aren’t just forgiving them for their actions, but absolving them of the burden (and guilt) that come with it. Many religious people, and those influenced by proxy, treat it like you’re cleansing your soul/consciousness from a kind of damnation. But in actuality, it’s aimed to benefit the other party and their enablers much more. Your forgiveness is essentially their golden ticket to stay in everyone’s good graces.

Obviously that’s not how it should go, but people are full of surprises.

Sorry for the mini religious sperg, but it goes hand-in-hand a lot in my culture.

 

[Billy Hargrove]

"Am I Wrong for "training" a guy "like a dog"? I (23F) have recently started seeing this guy (26M). he’s super pretty, but he’s kind of emotionally unavailable and he’s alluded to an unstable/ unhealthy childhood.

for context, i also work w socializing abused and neglected dogs at a local shelter and i think how much time i spend w the dogs is impacting the way i interact w ppl.

when we were on a date i started subconsciously making mental notes abt him like the notes id make abt a dog. for example, i noticed when we went out to dinner i noticed he ate really quickly and was very anti-sharing (resource guarding) but when i offered to pay and suggested dessert it seemed to make him really happy and a little calmer (food-motivated); he’s really particular about his car (territorial/ crate aggression); he likes when i pick where we go/ what we do (eager to please), etc. so, ive started using the tactics id use on a dog w similar problems.

recently a friend (22F) pointed out that it’s weird that i keep peanut M&Ms on me w the specific purpose of offering the guy one when i see him, and offering them again whenever i can tell he feels vulnerable. she said that im being an asshole bc he’s a person, not a dog so i shouldn’t be “training him like one.”

i don’t think that’s fair, im not trying to control him or anything, i just want him to feel comfortable w me the same way i need the animals im helping to be comfortable w me. humans and animals aren’t THAT diff after all, we all just want to feel safe and cared for. the guy hasn’t noticed yet as far as i can tell. the problem is, my “technique” is yielding really positive results."

 

[LimeRikki]

"Am I Wrong for "training" a guy "like a dog"? I (23F) have recently started seeing this guy (26M). he’s super pretty, but he’s kind of emotionally unavailable and he’s alluded to an unstable/ unhealthy childhood.

for context, i also work w socializing abused and neglected dogs at a local shelter and i think how much time i spend w the dogs is impacting the way i interact w ppl.

when we were on a date i started subconsciously making mental notes abt him like the notes id make abt a dog. for example, i noticed when we went out to dinner i noticed he ate really quickly and was very anti-sharing (resource guarding) but when i offered to pay and suggested dessert it seemed to make him really happy and a little calmer (food-motivated); he’s really particular about his car (territorial/ crate aggression); he likes when i pick where we go/ what we do (eager to please), etc. so, ive started using the tactics id use on a dog w similar problems.

recently a friend (22F) pointed out that it’s weird that i keep peanut M&Ms on me w the specific purpose of offering the guy one when i see him, and offering them again whenever i can tell he feels vulnerable. she said that im being an asshole bc he’s a person, not a dog so i shouldn’t be “training him like one.”

i don’t think that’s fair, im not trying to control him or anything, i just want him to feel comfortable w me the same way i need the animals im helping to be comfortable w me. humans and animals aren’t THAT diff after all, we all just want to feel safe and cared for. the guy hasn’t noticed yet as far as i can tell. the problem is, my “technique” is yielding really positive results."

Your Nigel's a dog
Train him with treats and whistles
Amerimutt man

 

[Pickman's Modeling Agency]

Your Nigel's a dog
Train him with treats and whistles
Amerimutt man

Even your haikus are great, goddammit

 

[lego racers]

i'm as anti-government as they come (i consider myself an anarchist), but i'm so sick of people dying on the hill of sex and marriage with children. no, you actually don't have to be against regulating that to hate the government. i despise those in power and wish they had no authority to enforce their will, but i don't complain when they jail or execute a serial killer. so sick of this heeing and hawing over pedos getting prosecuted for sexualizing kids, over age of consent laws, or underage marriage, because retards with black and white thinking have co-opted anti-government sentiment to normalize beating your shit to kids.
"b-but muh romeo and julliet!"
if you took hating the government seriously, you would understand the concept of prosecutorial discretion. if a prosecutor did try to charge a 19-year old for marrying a 17-year old, it would most likely never get past a probable cause hearing without there being harmful circumstances. i highly doubt ANYONE is getting imprisoned for this alone. and personally, i don't see what geniune harm is being made from that couple needing to wait an extra year to marry. marriage is not make or break at that young of an age. sorry, hating the government is cool, but allowing kids to get raped to spite the government is retarded and autistic. until there is a genuine case of this law being misused, i will not care about the whining of banning this islamic shit.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

and personally, i don't see what geniune harm is being made from that couple needing to wait an extra year to marry. marriage is not make or break at that young of an age.

It's based on some old social stigma, where it's seen as preferable to force your pregnant 17-year-old to get married rather than have the neighbors gossip about her having a child out of wedlock. As if gossipy neighbors can't do math and notice that the kid was born 6 months after the wedding. If it's truly that big of a deal to you what people think of your family, you can hold a wedding ceremony for your daughter and her boyfriend without actually getting the legal paperwork until she's 18. It's a nonsense concern.

 

[crazedaze]

Friendly reminder that y chromes evolved for the sole purpose of ensuring reproduction so their general stance on such things as pedophilia, child marriage, abortion, dating, things generally related to sex and reproduction are logical but should be ignored. Quality over quantity as far as the selectors are concerned.

 

[S@credC]

Quality over quantity as far as the selectors are concerned.

Friendly reminder that y chromes evolved for the sole purpose of ensuring reproduction .

As a result, you can't expect the Y chromosomes to show you any loyalty or have any standards. Whatever they can get, they'll take. And if they think they can get better, they will.

 

[Billy Hargrove]

“AITAH for putting a bedtime pause on the WiFi because my girlfriend’s 28 year old brother has spent nearly a decade rotting in our house playing video games?

Around 8 years ago, my girlfriend’s younger brother moved back into our house with his wife after leaving the Marines. After high school he enlisted, spent a few years mostly doing support and base related work, then got out. His plan was to use his GI Bill, pursue a real education, and figure out a long term career path while staying with us temporarily.

We fully supported them. No rent, free housing, utilities, internet, food, and we constantly cooked meals for them. We also helped with job opportunities, resources, and encouragement.

The problem is that “temporary” slowly became years.

He never committed to school, never held a serious job, and slowly spent almost all his time gaming. He stays up until sunrise, wakes up around 3 PM, and avoids people whenever guests come over.

Meanwhile his wife worked full time as a cashier supporting both of them. Eventually she cheated and left him, saying she no longer felt anything for someone who had lost all ambition and passion for life. Cheating is wrong, but I understood how resentment could build after years of carrying someone.

After the divorce he admitted he had wasted years of his life and promised he wanted to change. We supported him through that too.

Then my girlfriend’s parents moved back onto the property to emotionally support him as well. The house was originally bought by them years ago before being transferred into our names, so technically it’s ours now but there’s still family attachment involved.

Fast forward to now and nothing has changed. He’s 28 and still spends nearly all day in his room gaming.

I’ve brought this issue up to my girlfriend multiple times over the years. Almost every time she either gets angry at me for bringing it up or says he’s “working on a study program” or “figuring things out,” but those plans never actually happen. Her parents have also admitted they’re tired of talking to him because nothing changes. At this point I honestly feel like I’m stuck in an echo chamber where everyone recognizes the problem but nobody wants to confront it anymore.

Two weeks ago I quietly set a WiFi bedtime pause from 12 AM to 6 AM since me and my girlfriend pay basically all utilities including internet. Honestly I thought it would affect nobody except him because everyone else sleeps like normal adults.

My girlfriend got upset because I did it without telling her. She said she couldn’t sleep knowing there was tension in the house because of the WiFi pause. She also explained that growing up, her grandparents controlled things in the house in ways that made her feel like she had no freedom, so the WiFi situation brought back bad memories.

I told her I understood that and agreed what her grandparents did was unfair. But I also told her she isn’t a child anymore, and neither is her brother.

This isn’t parents punishing teenagers. This is a 28 year old grown man spending nearly a decade avoiding adulthood while everyone around him financially cushions the consequences.

I finally told her something that came from years of frustration: somehow everyone can sleep peacefully while watching her brother waste his life isolated in a bedroom gaming all night, but pausing the internet for 6 hours suddenly becomes the unbearable problem.

She thinks I’m being cruel toward someone who may be depressed. I think everyone has spent years enabling self destruction because nobody wants to be the bad guy.

AITAH”

 

[S@credC]

I think everyone has spent years enabling self destruction because nobody wants to be the bad guy.

He's right. This whole family uprooted and rearranged their lives for this little twerp. Why did the parents need to move in to "emotionally support him???

Then my girlfriend’s parents moved back onto the property to emotionally support him as well.

They created a monster. Glad the wife of the slacker got out, at least.

 

[Billy Hargrove]

Yes the family is clearly very dysfunctional and have found the path of least resistance is just to continue to enable the fail brother. In these situations the complainer always gets turned into the bad guy. I can even think of ways they could enforce boundaries without going straight to 100 but often with dysfunctional families like this (esp with the the parents being so nearby) they will turn OP into a villain and kick him out of the family before they change.

In the comments section people are discussing being in this very situation and the parents died so the older sister (funny how it’s always the female family members who have to do this) took over enabling the fail brother who is now mid 50’s and does nothing but sit around all day.

Idgi, I have had depression etc etc all the stuff. But I would literally rather kill myself than be a NEET sponging off my family. I’m always shocked when I read those posts by men on here talking about “why shouldn’t I be a neet? society has nothing to offer me.”

 

[The Mighty Banth]

b-but muh romeo and julliet!"

Ended in a double suicide, which everyone seems to forget.

On the topic of forgiveness, if you've ever been deeply wounded, especially by some one close, it consumes your thoughts, your feelings, your sleep, everything. Forgiveness is for the victim, so you can get your life back, not for the perpetrator's benefit. You can forgive some one and fully want the to receive a just punishment.

 

[Shakira Flabbergasted]

I’m always shocked when I read those posts by men on here talking about “why shouldn’t I be a neet? society has nothing to offer me.”

I don't know why they don't just kill themselves if that's their mentality. I'd literally rather die than be a permanent burden on everyone around me because I think I'm entitled to a great life without doing anything at all to earn it. People like that make me as angry as addicts who refuse to treat their addiction, and their enablers make me as angry as the families who enable druggies and deathfats. If they were all put out on their asses with no tugboat, they would have to figure their shit out and get a fucking job. They wouldn't die of exposure or starve or whatever their enablers fear. Endless respect for parents, grandparents, and siblings who evict these parasites.

 

[S@credC]

They wouldn't die of exposure or starve or whatever their enablers fear.

Maybe they would, but that's their problem.