Didn't listen to the whole thing, but when I popped in a few hours ago (back when it was still going on) it sounded like they were apologizing to him for declaring him guilty without proof.
Double post, and IDGAF. I started listening to this stream from the beginning, and am now a bit more familiar.
There is no evidence at all against Styx, as of right now. I'm not prepared to say he didn't do anything... because I don't care enough to look into it anymore than this... But I do believe into innocent until proven guilty, and... weird as this guy is, he has not been proven guilty.
Double post, and IDGAF. I started listening to this stream from the beginning, and am now a bit more familiar.
There is no evidence at all against Styx, as of right now. I'm not prepared to say he didn't do anything... because I don't care enough to look into it anymore than this... But I do believe into innocent until proven guilty, and... weird as this guy is, he has not been proven guilty.
Two things, Styx was shown to be a cunt for trying to get the channel flagged, and the guests were the ones to lob this information, not the actual show host himself.
Mostly it was Andy Warski afraid that Tonka Saw would get his channel flagged over this.
I'm only an hour and ten minutes into the stream but it looks like these chuckleheads tried back peddling and saying it was a joke instead of an accusation really brought out the anger in Tonkasaw.
Tonkasaw called Styx out at 1:09:00 for asking Styx's fans to flag the stream.
The guests came on beforehand and presented archived links that suggested Styx was some kinda pedo, even outright offering that they are orbiting young girls or is an actual pedo.
Tonka also blasted them when the guests tried to turn it around on the show for lobbing the accusation. "We only gave you the information and dipped".
EDIT: 1:13:00 Styx agrees to join the google hangout to defend against the accusations against him
1:13:35 Billy the Anti Bully (Jim Metokur's alternative personality) "HERE YOU GO CHAT, SATURDAY EVENING INTERNET BLOODSPORTS!
1:22:00 heavy backpeddling and apology from the guests.
1:30:00 styx accepted their apology. Chat is bored with this internet bloodsporting event
1:37:00 The chat starts to demand everyone sing Styx happy birthday since it was his birthday for real.
1:37:52 everyone (except billy the anti bully) starts singing along to happy birthday for Styx
It seems at that point they all start going their own separate ways.
Summed up:
It was a stream where people who had evidence thought there was something to the evidence and maintained it seemed legit. The show host had internet issues resulting in a split stream but just before the show crashed, these guests came on and gave them links to archives that made Styx look like he was grooming a girl. While they maintained it was a poor joke, they became more convinced that Styx had something to hide by not coming on the stream to address it. Tonka Saw, Billy the Anti Bully, Andi Warski and Sinatra were sceptical at best about the accusation, whereas Ian Miles Chong flip-flopped every other five minutes (according to chat). Styx came into chat and immediately told his fans he'd appreciate it if they flagged the stream; claiming to not know who is spreading the bullshit about him. Warski immediately got aggressive with the guests while making sure to point out who was spreading the allegation. trying to keep Tonka from getting his channel flagged by the dude. Tonka called out Styx for trying to flag channels down instead of settling it on the show. Eventually Styx agreed to come on. The two guests quickly began backpeddling when he saw how serious the guy was about lawsuits. They all smoothed things over, and while Billy didn't get the bloodsports he truly wanted he did hear people shouting at each other which made a funny Saturday for him.
tl;dr, casual stream between friends gets turned into a serious allegation against a pretty big internet persona because some guests thought they had some intel that turned out to be wrong, resulting in shouting matches and an amusing saturday for anyone not involved. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d-CzknjEDo8&t=3086s
More bullshit flinging from these guys named ROTC (revenge of the Ciss) who at this point I believe may earn themselves a thread on the kiwis. It's a YT channel/pair that supposedly focuses on paedophiles and outing them. From what I've seen, these guys are searching for views and try to leech off of bigger channels to promote their brand.
Some of you know already that there's an accusation being thrown at Styx for being a pedo. It's my personal opinion that it's garbage but it's Styx related so here you go.
Going to watch and edit this post as points of interest happen around Styx.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=33m33s - Tonka Show, Failure, the Cohost references that the same guys that came on Saturday were trying to attention whore again with the accusation. "I don't even remember their names" - Failure. I agree it is very hard to remember because it's so stupid like that Keemstar A-logger's podcast name.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=1h19m47s - They talk about how these clowns even got on the show (the ROTC). (Explanation below so I don't clutter the quote). Failure doesn't like "IHippocrite" but he said he thinks its bs people are throwing around the paedo accusations with minimal evidence. That if you come in strong only to leave singing happy birthday to your opponent then you got cucked pretty good.
They were picking fights with Andy Warski to get on the show on Saturday (or was it sunday?) and they went on to defend themselves for calling out Warski for whatever reason. They dropped the bombshell yesterday and disconnected right around the time Tonka lost connection to the net resulting in the split stream on Saturday. They get roasted by the host after they try throwing the host under the bus for the accusation.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=1h21m40s they reference the twitter that followed Failure and Failure lists two names, but he only lists one and says @Hippojuice something. They locked that account and privated it. They are deleting comments according to Failure. "Hey folks, a lot of people are going to brigading and white knighting on this video so do us a video and counter brigade. Calling out styxenhammer666". "How very Lizz (reptile) of you." - Tonka
These guys apparently are affiliated with an old postcast (ROTC) to something called hippojuice, a podcast that used to get shout outs from a more popular podcast. The second that podcast moved on from giving hippojuice a shoutout, "Those guys are shit now!" Senpai plz notice me level behaviour. Once the more successful podcast heard of this they said go fuck off into obscurity after he helped them out with reference. These guys MO is to drum up shit like that SFTP guy does to Keemstar to hope that someone notices them over controversy
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=1h36m16s - The tonka show at this point starts to watch their (ROTC's) 'aftershow' where they go from saying sorry to styx to bringing on a more 'knowledged' expert on this accusation against styx. It sounds like their 'expert' is some young looking punk. The kid makes an effort to point of Styx's crossdressing history. MUST MEAN HES A pedo!??!! wtf. Kid's name is Alozzio or something.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=1h51m39s - They back peddle again and claim that they never said that Styx was a pedo. That they felt baited into coming into coming back on the show AFTER dropping that archived 'evidence' of styx 'creeping' on a girl. Nevermind that no one tweeted at them. They just lurked in the chat after they dropped the bomb and ran.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=1h55m39s - Alozzio dares Styx to sue him while the hosts of ROTC, who begged for Styx's forgiveness, waited 3 whole minutes after this guy grand stands to say "That's not our stance by the way. We didn't say it!"
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=2h8m10s - Styx joins the live stream
Tl;dr - Turns out ROTC is a rebranded group of chuckleheads that shit talk people that have either helped them in the past or just have a large following like Styxenhammer666. They've been doing this shit since at least 2009.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=2h32m55s - The entire crew is watching the segment where they talk about the evidence against styx. It's totally proof positive that he's a creep because he typed 'first' on a girl's video.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=2h44m8s - Around this time, the ROTC lead guy says "just to play devil's advocate, or a Andy Warski" he then went on to say that Andy also talks to his young fans all the time. I don't know if that's another, more subtle paedo accusation or what but lol everyone's a creepo I guess if that's the case.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=2h59m9s - At this point, it seems really scripted in the ROTC podcast where they had the guest practically speak for them and validate their original outburst on the kumite. They are trying to play devil's advocate while covering and admitting to everything they've floundered on during the podcast while this guy shows his evidence as fact. Styx did say on the podcast that he condones his audience flagging that channel; and I don't blame him at this point.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=3h4m58s - It's interesting that the channel ROTC talks about how strange it is for people to comment on 15-16 year old youtuber's channels, but uploaded a video of themselves claiming to red pill a 12 year old. I wonder if that video is real how many parents would be okay with two grown neckbeards talking to their kids about politics?
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=3h14m28s - Billy the Anti Bully (metokur) joins the stream and comments toward styx that he thinks flagging videos is bitch tier. I normally agree, but these dudes are a clearly deserving it.
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=3h19m4s - Billy and Tonka both advocate to not flag a channel so that you can go back and gather information later for a piece later on. As a result, Styx agrees to say you should just troll instead if your a fan of his. Don't flag. http://hippojuice.com
https://youtu.be/-d5q3TZDeIo?t=3h23m2s - Styx takes off and shortly after, around 3 hr 30 minutes I think it's the last part where they refer to those dudes at ROTC media. That if you want to try this new strategy after 10 years of being nobodies on YouTube, good luck.
tl;dr, they backtracked and in a roundabout way just tried to justify their original claim on the tonkashow after finding out they got 200 subscribers from the ordeal. They don't want to get sued, so they use other mouth pieces to get their point across while playing 'devil's advocate' against their own narrative.
Not saying this thread is inherently bad or anything, or that Styx ain’t a scumbag or a cow, but shouldn’t this belong in the Lolcow forum? Rather than the Multimedia forum?
Not saying this thread is inherently bad or anything, or that Styx ain’t a scumbag or a cow, but shouldn’t this belong in the Lolcow forum? Rather than the Multimedia forum?