Goonclown Steven Bonnell II / Destiny / Destiny.gg - Emotionally Unstable Manchild, Creeps on Teenagers, Incest Supporter, Degenerate Foot Sniffer, Cum Felcher, Gooner

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Destiny said:
No, I was talking to a friend trying to convince them not to kill themselves but I thought it would be a massive violation of their autonomy to turn them over to the police. I'm still not sure what the correct answer is, there. If both people are adults, and one person wants to commit suicide, do you have a right to remove that person's autonomy and forcibly "commit" them to an institution to prevent them from taking their own life?
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Would you think the same way if Nathan ever contemplated suicide once he is an adult?
 
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1) I have no fucking idea. In some countries it's like 13 or 14, in others it's like 18. On one hand, I want to say that a 16 year old is too young/stupid to consent to sex, but as I get older now and approach 30 I honestly think 20 year olds are too fucking stupid to consent to fuck all as well. The idea that an 18 year old is an "adult" is laughable to me, and seeing how even some 22-23 year olds act....fuck mate, I have no fucking idea. I don't like the idea of a hard line "age of consent" thing because it betrays what informed consent actually means. It's possible to conceive of scenarios where 25 year olds can take extreme advantage of 18 year olds and where 22 year olds and 17 year olds can be on even ground.

The way that I view "relationships" in my life is a "life stages" kind of thing. I've dated a girl who was 26 while I was 27 who was in a totally different "life stage" than me. She hadn't lived on her own yet, really, and wasn't used to holding down her own job. So while we were technically both "of age" it still felt like I was dating a child.

2) Consent to sexual activity? tbh, if you haven't held a job and lived on your own I still view you as a child, so I have no idea how to really answer this question.

3) Any time I see adults hardcore pushing to normalize sex with children, it comes off to me as a group of people who are trying to rationalize why it should be okay for them to exploit people who don't know any better. If someone isn't even in fucking high school there's absolutely no way they can have any idea what the fuck is going on in a sexual relationship. I don't know how young NAMBLA pushes for but if it's below that age then I'd be highly suspect. If it's just for high school shit then I have no fucking idea, I don't have any strong opinions one way or another.
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What about posting nudes of a 18+ girl in a chat without her consent and also making fun of her?
 
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Fougaro said:
Would you think the same way if Nathan ever contemplated suicide once he is an adult?
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Yes, of course. If he's an adult I have no control over what he does, you can't compel a person to act or live in a certain way (as long as they aren't hurting anyone else). You just do your best to make sure they don't head down that road, I suppose.

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What about posting nudes of a 18+ girl in a chat without her consent and also making fun of her?
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No clue, never done the former since they were already somewhat publicly posted (but that's not included in your fanfic :( ), and making fun of her was a shitty thing to do. I already admitted that like, 5 years ago, though. Any newer stories? :biggrin:
 
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Destiny said:
Yes, of course. If he's an adult I have no control over what he does, you can't compel a person to act or live in a certain way (as long as they aren't hurting anyone else). You just do your best to make sure they don't head down that road, I suppose.
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I'm pretty sure talking a person to keep from killing themselves is "compelling them to act".


People have agency, yes, but they can also be influenced no matter what age. This is why we have suicide prevention, so we keep people from making up their mind.
 
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Let's get the first-few-pages shit out of the way.
What was your thought process behind the DMCAs a while back? I think you've said something along the lines of 'context' before, but is that the entire justification?
Did you bang the 15-year-old who sent pics, or keep the pics?
Do you have any particular regrets about how you behaved or things you said while poking the centre-right hornets nest?
Do you have anything you want to say about the brief animator-tweet shitstorm, or twitter in general considering circumstances?
Are you, in fact, a Yorkshire Terrier?
 
X-Shaped Weeaboo said:
I'm pretty sure talking a person to keep from killing themselves is "compelling them to act".


People have agency, yes, but they can also be influenced no matter what age. This is why we have suicide prevention, so we keep people from making up their mind.
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...this is a super retarded take, I mean, if you want to redefine words we can do that, but is this really a productive way to have a conversation?

"He made that guy murder the dude!"

"Oh shit, really? Did he hold a gun to his head and force him to do it?"

"Well, no, but he said it'd be a good idea to do it!"

"Oh wow, those are the same thing!!!!!!"

snore

Autopsy said:
Let's get the first-few-pages shit out of the way.
What was your thought process behind the DMCAs a while back? I think you've said something along the lines of 'context' before, but is that the entire justification?
Did you bang the 15-year-old who sent pics, or keep the pics?
Do you have any particular regrets about how you behaved or things you said while poking the centre-right hornets nest?
Do you have anything you want to say about the brief animator-tweet shitstorm, or twitter in general considering circumstances?
Are you, in fact, a Yorkshire Terrier?
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1) People who steal my content and re-upload it onto their platforms (that inevitably lead to monetization) for the purposes of slandering me get the DMCA bullet. I'm generally pretty chill with people using my content, just not if people are blatantly ripping my shit (violating my IP) and only doing it to make me look bad. If someone wants to go through some effort and put together an actual, new work, without just straight ripping my stuff, even if it's slanderous etc...I won't touch it. That's why I never DMCA'd NakedApe's video.

2) I've only fucked two underage chicks and that's while I was in high school. First girlfriend and ex-wife. I have no pics of anything people sent me a long time ago, I've reformated/changed HDD's a ton of times. If I found out someone was underage I generally stopped talking to them, if for no other reason because it could be some dude trying to catfish you (which people do like crazy).

3) I have no regrets, I've learned a ton. Obviously it'd be nice to say "I wish I did everything perfectly the first time around" but I think building your life around your experiences gives you a much more solid foundation from which to make decisions/understand things. I can also empathize with a much wider range of people than most due to how extreme I've been on both sides of so many positions now.

4) Not really, Psychicpebbles was just ass-pained that I blew his little white nationalist friend out of the water and found a way to bring all of his little art buddies on board with it.

5) No comment.
 
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LordKaT said:
You are a lying sack of shit that needs to go suckstart a shotgun, sir. We didn't "use" your content, only commented on it and you had your faggot horde going apeshit over it.
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Uhh, I don't know what you're saying here? I'm talking about DMCAs, I have no fucking idea what you're on about. Control your autism in my presence, boi.
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Morally what was your take on the relationship JF Gariepy had with the autistic girl?
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Insanely immoral. All the classic signs of an abuser were there.

1) Isolate person from family. He told her to leave her family without a word.

2) Isolate person from the rest of the world. He told her he would help her make a YT so she would never leave the house.

3) Make the person reliant on you, and only you. He wanted to put a baby in her IMMEDIATELY.

This chick was still a kid. inb4 "WELL SHE CULD DRIVE THOOOO" year fucking 10 year olds on farms can drive cars. She was 19, had never had a boyfriend before, had never worked a job before, couldn't dress/clean herself properly, and was evaluated by two independent professionals who both agreed that she needed assistance to live a normal life. JF was absolutely preying on her and taking advantage of her when he tried to get her to flee her family and move cross country to put a baby in her.
 
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Destiny said:
Yes, of course. If he's an adult I have no control over what he does, you can't compel a person to act or live in a certain way (as long as they aren't hurting anyone else). You just do your best to make sure they don't head down that road, I suppose.
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Nathan grows up and realizes what kind of a Dad he has and wants to kill himself.

Destiny: "Son I'd appreciate if you didn't do it but you're old enough to make your own decisions. So if you really want to kill yourself go for it!"

Nathan actually kills himself.

Destiny: "Well, his life his choice. Shit happens!"

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LordKaT said:
This resulted in enough reports by Destiny's fans that I had to write an appeal to Google to explain why my account shouldn't be locked.

Destiny is cool with you, as long as you're kissing his ass. Anything else and he's an absolute prick.
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You might want to clarify, that it resulted in reports after destiny told his stream to report all content critical of him, and get his detractors deplatformed, and his reddit mods put your stream on a hit list.
 
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