Interests FB UPDATE 3/9/2014 - Chris Boycotts Sonic Boom (Again)

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Sonic is Poochie. Fast Poochie.

At least Poochie had the decency to leave when his time was up. Sonic is well into his second decade of total irrelevance as anything but an icon of autism.

You guys ever wonder if we're doing Chris a disservice by discussing him on this site and reinforcing the worldview he has of people giving a shit about what he does?

Well, he thought he had a billion-strong fanbase long before the CWCki ever came along, so I'm guessing his narcissism is not and never has been remotely grounded in anything close to reality. At best, the fact that a forum dedicated to him exists merely boosts his already formidable confirmation bias.
 
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I've never fully figured out why Sonic is tardnip. I really want like a deep and scientific analysis performed by experts, cause shits weird.

I've heard that it's cause he's 'edgy' but like only in the most tamest way possible. Why this one character? The 90s were filled with bullshit "attitude" but family friendly material.

My guess is the bright colors, twinkly noises, and characters with basic, easily understood character traits- that are non-human enough in appearance to allow anyone to identify with them. I've read before that all of these things have appeal to the autistic.

MLP is very similar in this regard.
 
My guess is the bright colors, twinkly noises, and characters with basic, easily understood character traits- that are non-human enough in appearance to allow anyone to identify with them. I've read before that all of these things have appeal to the autistic.

MLP is very similar in this regard.
I know I've got the terminology wrong but MLP seems to have tapped the same kind of male fanbase of the "Moe" (mostly) all girl anime shows like Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh, I don't think it's intentional though. (Although you never know)
 
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That's it. I'm not playing Sonichu Boom anymore. :mad:
 
Well, he thought he had a billion-strong fanbase long before the CWCki ever came along, so I'm guessing his narcissism is not and never has been remotely grounded in anything close to reality. At best, the fact that a forum dedicated to him exists merely boosts his already formidable confirmation bias.

A forum where he's slowly being eclipsed by a future retired SEALS Marine rape survivor who keeps getting kicked out of his own house...and a manchild who is so much more fucking detested than Chris that this very forum is producing an amazing colab project to have a reanimated cyborg cat kick the shit out of its ignorant former master.

Even the ONE place on the internet dedicated to discussing Chris is starting to forget him.
 
You guys ever wonder if we're doing Chris a disservice by discussing him on this site and reinforcing the worldview he has of people giving a shit about what he does?

Chris is so far beyond helping that we may as well not even bother with this crap. Make fun of him or don't, it makes no difference.
 
Chris is so far beyond helping that we may as well not even bother with this crap. Make fun of him or don't, it makes no difference.

You don't even have to speak in vague references, because any facts he doesn't like are immediately discarded. For instance: Chris's girlfriend is fake and he is being manipulated once again. And... nothing.
 
I've never fully figured out why Sonic is tardnip. I really want like a deep and scientific analysis performed by experts, cause shits weird.

I've heard that it's cause he's 'edgy' but like only in the most tamest way possible. Why this one character? The 90s were filled with bullshit "attitude" but family friendly material.
Personally, I think it's the way the character's sold. He had a huge marketing campaign all about how cool he was; every kid wants to be cool. Of course, most of us realized how hackneyed and ridiculous it was, but autistic children have a tendency to take things very literally. If something is said to be the coolest, well then it must be the coolest, right?
 
Personally, I think it's the way the character's sold. He had a huge marketing campaign all about how cool he was; every kid wants to be cool. Of course, most of us realized how hackneyed and ridiculous it was, but autistic children have a tendency to take things very literally. If something is said to be the coolest, well then it must be the coolest, right?
Yeah, but what people are saying is that all the characters around then went for a similar route, and didn't end up as atsimually successful as Sonic.
 
Yeah, but what people are saying is that all the characters around then went for a similar route, and didn't end up as atsimually successful as Sonic.
Well, once he won that sweepstakes there was no going back. That was his identity. I'm sure he was big on Sonic before that due to how autism-friendly he was, but I think his diehard attachment to Sonic really started the day that he felt special for liking Sonic.
 
I think its been said but why are sonic fans so vocal about minor changes but won't say shit about the quality of the games? I dont think chris gave any sonic game a negative opinion

Because Sonic is a keystone of their identity. To change Sonic is to change a part of them.

The actual content of the game is irrelevant. It has Sonic in it, it is therefore by definition good. Chris went on about this once, about how fans must stay loyal and buy everything associated with a brand or they are not TRUE AND HONEST fans. Quality of the merchandise simply doesn't matter.
 
I've never fully figured out why Sonic is tardnip. I really want like a deep and scientific analysis performed by experts, cause shits weird.

You know, I wish that I knew the answer to that. If I did, I'd be marketing my own crappy products towards autistic manchildren and I'd probably be a multimillionaire by now. Or at least have enough money to pay off my student loans.

I've heard that it's cause he's 'edgy' but like only in the most tamest way possible. Why this one character? The 90s were filled with bullshit "attitude" but family friendly material.

I think that's part of it, yes, but as you said, there were tons of "hip" and "edgy" characters in the 90s, and few of them attracted the sort of fanbase that Sonic did. Of course, it could just be that Sonic fans are more vocal about their obsession, but I suspect it has to do with several factors, including distribution, how aggressively its marketed, and perhaps even timing. After all, coming out first might make a big difference once kids like Chris imprint on it. Then again, who knows. It might be something more retarded, like the right mix of colors or something.

I know I've got the terminology wrong but MLP seems to have tapped the same kind of male fanbase of the "Moe" (mostly) all girl anime shows like Lucky Star and Azumanga Daioh, I don't think it's intentional though. (Although you never know)

Yeah, I'll admit that I've watched a couple episodes of it, and its a pretty cute show. I can see how people could get sucked into watching it. But then, I'm also a grown ass man, so I've got better things to watch. And better things to do than sit on my couch all day watching cartoons.

Personally, I think it's the way the character's sold. He had a huge marketing campaign all about how cool he was; every kid wants to be cool. Of course, most of us realized how hackneyed and ridiculous it was, but autistic children have a tendency to take things very literally. If something is said to be the coolest, well then it must be the coolest, right?

Yeah, but as Marvin said, there has to be more to it than just that because the 90s were full of those sorts of characters.
 
I posted this in another thread - my thoughts on Sonic and autism, as an aspie.

I'm an Aspie, but I was never a Sonic fan since my first exposure to video games was by way of N64 and GBA. (I did pick up Sonic Colors about a year back to see what all the hype was, I actually really liked what I played but I haven't finished yet.)

But I am an MLP sperg, and I think one of the reasons I like MLP can also explain kind of what the attraction is to Sonic.

I don't watch "adult" shows except Arrested Development and Seinfeld, and a big part of that is because of something that a lot of autistics tend to have at least in part: face blindness. I legitimately have trouble keeping multiple characters straight in live-action TV shows and movies because I can't distinguish them, and this detracts from my enjoyment of them because I can't just sit and enjoy, I have to ask whoever's with me "who's that guy again?" or whatever and it just results in me getting unnecessarily confused. By comparison, MLP and Sonic are both super-colorful, cartoonish and feature animals instead of people - nobody who was paying attention to a Sonic game or an MLP episode would ever have trouble keeping the characters straight from one another, when the designs are very much intended to differentiate them. Especially given that lighting changes are never an issue in cartoons like that. It's easy to just watch an MLP ep/play a Sonic game without having to worry about trying to keep characters straight, which is how both those things differ from more mature series that depict humans that can be hard to distinguish from one another for an autist.

I also think that animal-based media in general tends to attract more autistics than otherwise. I mean, anyone who knows anything about Temple Grandin knows that her contributions to society took the form of understanding how cows might be thinking and the problems they might be facing when people are herding them around man-made things. I think it's legitimately easier for autistic people to connect to animals - see: Chris caring more about Patti than anyone else, except perhaps when Bob died; see: my best friend who has mild Asperger's really hating interacting with people but having a ton of animals; see: my feeling like my now-deceased cat was my friend. I think autistics find it so hard to relate to people that it's easier to relate to animals, because animals never hide their feelings the way humans do. Social norms are the most obvious thing that autistics fail to grasp because a lot of the time they're counter-intuitive (why the hell do we ask "How are you?" if we don't expect an honest answer?) when autistics tend toward honesty. Animals are honest. And even if they act like humans, I think that autistics still kind of feel the connection to them moreso than humans. At any rate, it might explain the excessive number of spergs in the Sonic, MLP, Pokémon, and Warrior Cats communities (Chris being the former three; myself being the latter three; my best friend being the latter two - we actually met over a Warrior Cats forum).

Sonic I think is especially a symbol for autistics because of what people mentioned before: he's "cool" and yet at the same time he does not go against autistics' tendency to follow the rules to the letter. I think there's a similar reverence in the MLP community for Rainbow Dash, who is essentially a female pegasus version of Sonic. I actually kind of look up to Rainbow Dash - despite being a 19-year-old girl who's not super autistic either - because she kind of represents the personality I wish I could be: bold, brave, fearless, and above all not shunned by society, and I think the same thing might apply with Sonic to some autistics who don't have any friends but desire them.

I think the fact that Sonic's whole gimmick is "gotta go fast" is extremely appealing, though for what reason I couldn't tell you.
 
I posted this in another thread - my thoughts on Sonic and autism, as an aspie.

I'm an Aspie, but I was never a Sonic fan since my first exposure to video games was by way of N64 and GBA. (I did pick up Sonic Colors about a year back to see what all the hype was, I actually really liked what I played but I haven't finished yet.)

But I am an MLP sperg, and I think one of the reasons I like MLP can also explain kind of what the attraction is to Sonic.

I don't watch "adult" shows except Arrested Development and Seinfeld, and a big part of that is because of something that a lot of autistics tend to have at least in part: face blindness. I legitimately have trouble keeping multiple characters straight in live-action TV shows and movies because I can't distinguish them, and this detracts from my enjoyment of them because I can't just sit and enjoy, I have to ask whoever's with me "who's that guy again?" or whatever and it just results in me getting unnecessarily confused. By comparison, MLP and Sonic are both super-colorful, cartoonish and feature animals instead of people - nobody who was paying attention to a Sonic game or an MLP episode would ever have trouble keeping the characters straight from one another, when the designs are very much intended to differentiate them. Especially given that lighting changes are never an issue in cartoons like that. It's easy to just watch an MLP ep/play a Sonic game without having to worry about trying to keep characters straight, which is how both those things differ from more mature series that depict humans that can be hard to distinguish from one another for an autist.

I also think that animal-based media in general tends to attract more autistics than otherwise. I mean, anyone who knows anything about Temple Grandin knows that her contributions to society took the form of understanding how cows might be thinking and the problems they might be facing when people are herding them around man-made things. I think it's legitimately easier for autistic people to connect to animals - see: Chris caring more about Patti than anyone else, except perhaps when Bob died; see: my best friend who has mild Asperger's really hating interacting with people but having a ton of animals; see: my feeling like my now-deceased cat was my friend. I think autistics find it so hard to relate to people that it's easier to relate to animals, because animals never hide their feelings the way humans do. Social norms are the most obvious thing that autistics fail to grasp because a lot of the time they're counter-intuitive (why the hell do we ask "How are you?" if we don't expect an honest answer?) when autistics tend toward honesty. Animals are honest. And even if they act like humans, I think that autistics still kind of feel the connection to them moreso than humans. At any rate, it might explain the excessive number of spergs in the Sonic, MLP, Pokémon, and Warrior Cats communities (Chris being the former three; myself being the latter three; my best friend being the latter two - we actually met over a Warrior Cats forum).

Sonic I think is especially a symbol for autistics because of what people mentioned before: he's "cool" and yet at the same time he does not go against autistics' tendency to follow the rules to the letter. I think there's a similar reverence in the MLP community for Rainbow Dash, who is essentially a female pegasus version of Sonic. I actually kind of look up to Rainbow Dash - despite being a 19-year-old girl who's not super autistic either - because she kind of represents the personality I wish I could be: bold, brave, fearless, and above all not shunned by society, and I think the same thing might apply with Sonic to some autistics who don't have any friends but desire them.

I think the fact that Sonic's whole gimmick is "gotta go fast" is extremely appealing, though for what reason I couldn't tell you.

Yeah, I remember reading that post and as a non-autist, I found it extremely informative. Thank you so much for re-posting it.
 
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