ContraPoints / William Nicholas Parrott / Natalie Wynn Parrott / Nykytyne2 - GamerGhazi Cannibalism Victim, Youtube "Intellectual"

[Hierophantis]

I would consider Contra to be vastly overrated on how "smart" she supposedly is. She has the type of social intelligence that it takes to play the game and to manipulate people, but is seriously lacking in rational thinking ability. My first exposure to her was her debate with Blaire White, and throughout it I had a hard time processing some of the idiotic things she said (ie. when she told Blaire that conceding the obvious reality that a surgical "vagina" doesn't function the same way as a real one was wrong, because when reality hurts a trans person's feelings it needs to be ignored). I would say that RM and Sargon both make better arguments for their positions, but to each his own I guess.

I'd still put him higher than most is all. And I am not conflating intelligence with rationality but rather how effectively he can rationalize things. And like I said, I agree more with RM and Sargo.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

She also seems to be saying that "internalized transphobia" is a result of trans women feeling insecure about being biologically male, and tearing other trans women down in order to feel better about their masculine features. Again, Contra herself has admitted to having this insecurity, but thinks the solution is to flat out deny it and make a bunch of BS arguments to deny the fact that trans women are biologically male. Every time she talks about this, it's always about how language can be used to influence people rather than about what is objectively true. She seems to think that if she and other trans people receive enough validation from other people, their insecurities will eventually go away, rather than simply get worse.

I will just leave these here for all the dupes who fell for Nyk's narcissistic "grandiose and theatrical" LARP as a transwoman.

originally posted here

Nyk is not a transwoman. Nyk knows exactly what he's doing. It's a LARP. Nyk is just a closeted shy nerd who wanted to break into the gay sex scene but who because of his Presbyterian background cannot bring himself to have sex with a man as a man (he admitted on a Livestream 6 months before his transition when asked about his sexual orientation that he is "pretty much straight" saying "I could put a dick in my mouth, I just wouldn't know what to do with it, I would need a motivation to suck it"), so he declared himself a transwoman so could get girldick and have sex with men without the guilt trip and with his family thinking that he's being weird because of the gender dysphoria rather than his alcoholism and lifelong prescription drug abuse - which he has never been actually diagnosed with; he admitted on another Livestream that he self-diagnosed, ordered black market HRT from the internet, self-medicated for a month and then went to an informed consent clinic and requested HRT from their endocrinologist as harm minimization. Notice how Nyk never talks about seeing his psychiatrist about his transition and only talks about seeing the endo for bloodwork and adjustment of his medication? That's because he was never diagnosed and referred by a psychiatrist. It's all informed consent. Nyk does not have GD. The story he told in the AGP video with his "erotic history" is a whitewash, he didn't even mention any of the prescription drugs -half of which affect sexual functioning as a side effect- or any of the other diagnoses he originally disclosed in the Psychiatry video, and instead only mentioned being diagnosed with OCD, when he originally said he had been diagnosed with several other things as well including bipolar disorder. That video "Gender Dysphoria" he uploaded last year, which was meant to convince everyone that Nyk is really dysphoric, is not a video about gender dysphoria at all. It's a video about Nyk's vanity, narcissism and fear of growing old. In that video you see Nyk worrying about going bald (which is not GD, many cis men worry about it and take steps against it), worrying about bodily hair (is not GD, many cis men get their body hair removed), worrying about getting wrinkles (not GD, cis men get botox nowadays) and projecting himself onto his female date so that he can fantasize about being on a date with himself instead of her (which is narcissism, not dysphoria) and then refusing to have sex with his female date (which is either sexual dysfunction or, more likely, his closeted homosexuality, not GD). Nyk is nothing more than a wolf in sheep's clothing, a chaser who declared himself a trannie so he could no longer be accused of being a chaser, but actual transwomen unlike everyone else on Youtube saw right through his LARP and called him out for the AGP hon he is, so now he's promising to get this and that feminization surgery and gender reassignment surgery to finally prove he's for real. I don't care how much polysurgery Nyk gets to satisfy his narcissism, he's chaser and LARPing faker. Those suicidal tweets from Manning were the last drop in the bucket, because I know those tweets are referring to Nyk amongst others (Micah Lee on Twitter thought they were a reference to Cassandra Fairbanks but he has no clue). Nyk is involved in Manning's Senatorial election campaign in Maryland and has attended Manning's campaign meetings, by his own public admission. Maybe Nyk could spend less time marveling at himself in the mirror and bragging on Twitter about the mouthfeel and his Patreon-funded neovagina while obsessing over every slight imperfection, and maybe he could go and spend more time with his suicidal friend. Or was his friendship with Manning only good for a Livestream? Will Nyk fuck over Manning and dump her just like he and Theryn did with Blaire when they booted her from their event in Vancouver after using her to promote the event? #truscummyfriends

And here is some vintage Nykytyne2 for those of you who badly miss Nick:

This video shows what being in a relationship with such a LARPing alcoholic is really like. It's having to listen to their incoherent paranoid babble about drowning in the bathttp://archive.is/wflSxhtub and having to nurse them after their binge-drinking and vomiting session. All Nyk wants is a bunch of slaves to be his personal nurses and caretakers, like his nanny Sabrina @sa8oteur who was seen on Livestreams ordering food for him when Nyk was too drunk to do so himself.

More videos from the same event, you will see just how narcissistic Nyk really is and what legacy he is trying to run away from by LARPing that he is trans:

Nyk lied when he said he began crossdressing because of his girlfriends. He was already crossdressing when he first got on Youtube, out of his own free will but he blames his behaviour on women and that last Tiffany Tumbles video, which is just one extended hate-fuck of Blaire White is more of the same, more of Nyk blaming his behaviour on women. It is Nyk projecting his own insecurities onto Blaire and wanting to see Blaire suffer and have a public meltdown like he has on his Livestreams. The part in the video where the Adria character shoots back at Tiffany that "gay men aren't into your tits" is from this tweet to Blaire, so Nyk is plainly lying when he says that the Tiffany Tumbles video isn't about Blaire. The tweet was in reference to this pre-transition video, where "Robbie Faggotron" (Blaire's pre-transition alias on Youtube) said that gay men aren't into him and that he had a hard time getting into a relationship at the time because he was seen as a very femme gay man and therefore other gay men saw him as a trap. Nyk is suggesting that Blaire only transitioned because she couldn't get a date as a femme gay man because gay men generally prefer straight passing male partners. Nyk's own internalized homophobia is showing throughout the Tiffany Tumbles video.

 

[Grand Lunar]

he admitted on a Livestream 6 months before his transition when asked about his sexual orientation that he is "pretty much straight" saying "I could put a dick in my mouth, I just wouldn't know what to do with it, I would need a motivation to suck it"... he admitted on another Livestream that he self-diagnosed, ordered black market HRT from the internet, self-medicated for a month and then went to an informed consent clinic and requested HRT from their endocrinologist as harm minimization. Notice how Nyk never talks about seeing his psychiatrist about his transition and only talks about seeing the endo for bloodwork and adjustment of his medication? That's because he was never diagnosed and referred by a psychiatrist. It's all informed consent. Nyk does not have GD.
... It is Nyk projecting his own insecurities onto Blaire and wanting to see Blaire suffer and have a public meltdown like he has on his Livestreams.

Any proof of this? I can remember at least one occasion when I attempted to watch a livestream of Contra's hours after it aired (one of them being a big one with Lindsay Ellis, Dan Olson, and eventually more people) and the stream turned out to have been privated. I guess it wouldn't surprise me if Contra either revealed some inconvenient information or had a meltdown on air and needed to private, but would be nice to see confirmation.

 

[Cryin RN]

I would consider Contra to be vastly overrated on how "smart" she supposedly is. She has the type of social intelligence that it takes to play the game and to manipulate people, but is seriously lacking in rational thinking ability. My first exposure to her was her debate with Blaire White, and throughout it I had a hard time processing some of the idiotic things she said (ie. when she told Blaire that conceding the obvious reality that a surgical "vagina" doesn't function the same way as a real one was wrong, because when reality hurts a trans person's feelings it needs to be ignored). I would say that RM and Sargon both make better arguments for their positions, but to each his own I guess.

Contra is not that socially intelligent. Shit talking your friends on the record in public is the kind of stupid shit speds like Boogie do. This kind of smarter-than-her two-facedness is instant game over with actual adult women, but Shoe is a shut-in who relies on social media for $ so she's dug her own grave. Contra is definitely cut from the Greta/Coraline Ehmke/Zinnia mold of trying to turn cult leader as soon as they have social media attention - suddenly their word is law, they're hot shit and everyone else should be so lucky as to be their Twitter friend, and by the way they're super smart because they know big words and tell you so, etc. It's just a symptom of their disorder. Contra is more articulate than the others, but he'd flip his shit if he was pressed by a man, and that's probably why he's so butthurt around Blaire, who's self-assured and harder to shake.

 

[Grand Lunar]

Contra is not that socially intelligent. Shit talking your friends on the record in public is the kind of stupid shit speds like Boogie do. This kind of smarter-than-her two-facedness is instant game over with actual adult women, but Shoe is a shut-in who relies on social media for $ so she's dug her own grave. Contra is definitely cut from the Greta/Coraline Ehmke/Zinnia mold of trying to turn cult leader as soon as they have social media attention - suddenly their word is law, they're hot shit and everyone else should be so lucky as to be their Twitter friend, and by the way they're super smart because they know big words and tell you so, etc. It's just a symptom of their disorder. Contra is more articulate than the others, but he'd flip his shit if he was pressed by a man, and that's probably why he's so butthurt around Blaire, who's self-assured and harder to shake.

Well, to be fair, Contra's disavowal of Shoe happened on a public livestream when the critic to which she was talking brought it up. You could tell that she wanted to brush aside the topic, but the person kept pushing at it and thus Contra really didn't have much of a choice. RM and Sargon aren't her friends, so her practice of calling them bigots publicly and pretending to be more tolerant of opposition when talking to them isn't as significant.

Not meant as a defense of Contra ftr, she's still two-faced, but I do think it's fair to say that she has at least some social intelligence. I doubt that she's skilled enough to manipulate anyone who's savvy to the common techniques that she uses, but she's at least good enough to hide her true intentions from people who aren't actively suspecting her underhandedness.

 

[Tammy]

He's really going to use his Patreon bux to buy a "vagina" less than a year after he came out as *~genderqueer~* at 30 years old? Really?

 

[Nykysnottrans]

He's really going to use his Patreon bux to buy a "vagina" less than a year after he came out as *~genderqueer~* at 30 years old? Really?

Yes. It's called informed consent. As long as they can find a therapist - not even an actual psychiatrist, just a sex therapist - willing to refer them, they just go into these informed consent clinics, sign away their right to sue, and get whatever they ask for as long as they can pay for it. Nyk has the money to have an almost gatekeeping-free transition.

https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/1003820629727043585

- "Miss Parrot, what were you doing while your suicidal friend Miss Manning was jumping off a building?"
- "I was on Twitter bragging about getting a pussy from my audience."

Spoiler: more

The AGP video is just Nyk doing a public dress-rehearsal of the revised story he is going to tell the psychiatrist when he gets his bottom GRS referral. Dr Suporn Watanyusakul's clinic in Thailand is popular right now with trannies who want to have neovaginas dug into them (Stef Sanjiati is going to get a pussy from Dr. Suporn) and he only demands one letter from one "therapist", not even an actual psychiatrist, confirming dysphoria and having lived one year as a transwoman (in Nyk's case, living mostly locked up in his room doing videos, having Sabrina order food for him over the internet because he's too drunk to feed himself):

ALL patients undergoing SRS MUST provide an original, signed document from a qualified psychiatrist or psychosexual specialist, confirming as a minimum that:

They have been diagnosed with Gender Identity Dysphoria.

SRS is indicated in their case, and is the recommended treatment.

Ideally, the referral should also confirm that:

They have been living full time as a woman for at least 12 months prior to surgery or - if not - gives an explanation as to why that has not been possible in their case. It is accepted that RLT is not a practical possibility in some countries.

They have been undertaking a course of female hormone replacement therapy (HRT) unless there are medical reasons (to be indicated) that such a course is not advised in their case.

The letter must show the name, address and telephone number of the signee, for possible verification

SRS Referral Letter



There is no specific format for a SRS Referral letter. Dr Suporn does not expect a long report or detailed diagnosis, but he does expect it to contain certain minimum criteria. We would expect the doctor to mention how many times he has seen the patient, and since when. The doctor or practitioner does not have to specifically recommend that the patient should undergo SRS, nor do they have to specifically refer the patient to Dr Suporn ( a qualifying referral previously addressed to another surgeon is acceptable ). However, we would expect to see that the doctor or therapist considers that the patient:

has been diagnosed with gender dysphoria as the conclusion of a number of personal communication sessions. Confirmation of diagnosis in accordance to DSM IV Code 302.85 and/or ICD10 code F64.0 (or as otherwise appropriate) must be mentioned.

shows no evidence of co-morbidity or substance abuse. (Nyk would normally never meet this requirement given his public history of continuous drug abuse and alcoholism and his refusal to quit drinking and using during his HRT, but these therapist doing the referrals just don't care.)

is demonstrably living full time as a woman for at least 12 months, or shows evidence of commitment to do so, or has satisfactory reasons as to why she is not yet doing so. There might, for example, be legal reasons in any particular country preventing this.

is not suffering from any psychological or psychiatric disorders (****) that might be adversely influencing her decision or desire to undergo SRS. (Nyk suffers from multiple comorbid psychiatric disorders, but he now has revised his psychiatric history to claim he was "only once diagnosed with OCD" as opposed to the plethora of diagnoses he listed in the Psychiatry video, including bipolar.)

has been taking female hormones (for a specified period - usually a minimum of 6 months), unless it is considered medically unsafe to do so.

is fully adjusted to living in society as a woman or – if not yet living as a woman – must have a satisfactory explanation as to why this is the case.

is fully aware of the consequences, cost, details, complications and surgical and non-surgical options available to treat her gender dysphoria.

is aware that SRS is irreversible.

is considered suitable by him / her to undergo SRS insofar as he/she offers no reason why you should NOT undergo SRS and that SRS is necessary for the patient’s long-term well-being.

If the letter has all (or most of) those "ingredients", and the doctor is competent to write and sign it by virtue of his / her qualifications and credentials, Dr Suporn will accept that as suitable referral.

http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/Scheduling/protocol.aspx
​

The letter from the "therapist" is just a formality. It doesn't really matter under the informed consent regime, in the US any therapist will just sign off on any ole thing that comes in through the door asking for permission to have bottom surgery, but Nyk had to try his revised erotic history before his fans on Youtube to see if it would stick, and of course it stuck because none of these braindead morons noticed that Nyk had left out all of the diagnoses he had listed in the Psychiatry video from the erotic history he told in the AGP video. It's a revised narrative Nyk prepared for his therapist but no one noticed it and if they did no one had the nerve to say anything about it. Nyk got away with covering up (in plain view) of a large part of his psychiatric record, and he now feels confident about getting away with the same thing before the therapist who is going to prepare his referral, no questions asked - who doesn't care and would approve it anyway because they approve even retarded people and people suffering from multiple personality disorder for GRS.

Any proof of this? I can remember at least one occasion when I attempted to watch a livestream of Contra's hours after it aired (one of them being a big one with Lindsay Ellis, Dan Olson, and eventually more people) and the stream turned out to have been privated. I guess it wouldn't surprise me if Contra either revealed some inconvenient information or had a meltdown on air and needed to private, but would be nice to see confirmation.

Here is a public Livestream Nyk did with lolcow colleague Milo Stewart with the whole story about ordering drugs from the internet and then going to Chase Brexton ("Our goal is not to treat you “regardless of” who you are, but to affirm and help you become who you are!") where he received drugs on demand without ever being asked to see a psychiatrist to get a proper diagnosis before being given drugs. Note also that Chase Brexton made him wait for two months, but even that was too long for a drug addict like Nyk who wants his fix right here right now.

Nyk: I have avoided going to the doctor apart from the informed consent clinic I go to which is really good.

MS : Oh! Later I would be interested in knowing how you feel about informed consent.

Nyk:Well, Chase Brexton is a place I go to in Baltimore and it's actually kind of amazing in terms of... they like sorta know what trans people are like, and any time you have to fill in your legal name on a form they also ask you your preferred name, they ask what your pronouns are, it just makes a big difference in terms of the comfort of your experience there you know, that they have some basic knowledge about this stuff. So, I have had basically a really good experience there.

...

MS: What was the process of getting on informed consent like for you?

Nyk: It was really easy for me. And a lot of people have asked me: "How the fuck did you do that?". Well, I always have to put a disclaimer before this, but, this is not medical advice. But, I originally started with black market hormones. I was getting them on the internet. I mean, they worked or whatever, I did that for, like, a month and a half before I even showed up to the clinic. Because the clinic, I called them, and they made me wait for, like, three months or something. Or, it wasn't that bad, it was, like, two months, two and a half months to get an appointment. And at the time I was like, my dysphoria was at its max and I was like, no, I am not, I can't wait that long. (Look at that smug look on his face in this part of the video. He knows he is just delivering a script and getting away with it because Milo doesn't have the wit to question it. His narrative about being unable to wait for 2 months to go the clinic and just having to get internet drugs is such BS on the face of it, because he now has to wait a whole year before he can go to dr. Suporn in Thailand, so what is he going to do in the mean time, self-castrate?)

So I started [inaudible] and then when I came in, as femme as possible, and I told them I was a transwoman, she/her pronouns, my preferred name is Natalie, I am already on black market hormones and just trying to get a prescription here. And they were like, alright - what they said was, we don't usually give you a prescription the first day but since you are gonna do it anyway...

MS: It's safer, so we might as well to give it to you.

Nyk: It's safer, it's really better that you do this with a prescription, so I will give you a prescription. And I just walked in and walked out with a fucking prescription.

MS: That was what it was like for me, except I wasn't on black market hormones. ​

Nyk never mentions Chase Brexton asking him to go and see a psychiatrist first and receive a referral for HRT because of having actually been diagnosed with gender dysphoria before getting drugs or anything else. Chase Brexton just affirms everything in the name of informed consent.

 

[Marvin]

Yes. It's called informed consent. As long as they can find a therapist - not even an actual psychiatrist, just a sex therapist - willing to refer them, they just go into these informed consent clinics, sign away their right to sue, and get whatever they ask for as long as they can pay for it. Nyk has the money to have an almost gatekeeping-free transition.

https://twitter.com/ContraPoints/status/1003820629727043585

- "Miss Parrot, what were you doing while your suicidal friend Miss Manning was jumping off a building?"
- "I was on Twitter bragging about getting a pussy from my audience."

Spoiler: more

The AGP video is just Nyk doing a public dress-rehearsal of the revised story he is going to tell the psychiatrist when he gets his bottom GRS referral. Dr Suporn Watanyusakul's clinic in Thailand is popular right now with trannies who want to have neovaginas dug into them (Stef Sanjiati is going to get a pussy from Dr. Suporn) and he only demands one letter from one "therapist", not even an actual psychiatrist, confirming dysphoria and having lived one year as a transwoman (in Nyk's case, living mostly locked up in his room doing videos, having Sabrina order food for him over the internet because he's too drunk to feed himself):

ALL patients undergoing SRS MUST provide an original, signed document from a qualified psychiatrist or psychosexual specialist, confirming as a minimum that:

They have been diagnosed with Gender Identity Dysphoria.

SRS is indicated in their case, and is the recommended treatment.

Ideally, the referral should also confirm that:

They have been living full time as a woman for at least 12 months prior to surgery or - if not - gives an explanation as to why that has not been possible in their case. It is accepted that RLT is not a practical possibility in some countries.

They have been undertaking a course of female hormone replacement therapy (HRT) unless there are medical reasons (to be indicated) that such a course is not advised in their case.

The letter must show the name, address and telephone number of the signee, for possible verification

SRS Referral Letter



There is no specific format for a SRS Referral letter. Dr Suporn does not expect a long report or detailed diagnosis, but he does expect it to contain certain minimum criteria. We would expect the doctor to mention how many times he has seen the patient, and since when. The doctor or practitioner does not have to specifically recommend that the patient should undergo SRS, nor do they have to specifically refer the patient to Dr Suporn ( a qualifying referral previously addressed to another surgeon is acceptable ). However, we would expect to see that the doctor or therapist considers that the patient:

has been diagnosed with gender dysphoria as the conclusion of a number of personal communication sessions. Confirmation of diagnosis in accordance to DSM IV Code 302.85 and/or ICD10 code F64.0 (or as otherwise appropriate) must be mentioned.

shows no evidence of co-morbidity or substance abuse. (Nyk would normally never meet this requirement given his public history of continuous drug abuse and alcoholism and his refusal to quit drinking and using during his HRT, but these therapist doing the referrals just don't care.)

is demonstrably living full time as a woman for at least 12 months, or shows evidence of commitment to do so, or has satisfactory reasons as to why she is not yet doing so. There might, for example, be legal reasons in any particular country preventing this.

is not suffering from any psychological or psychiatric disorders (****) that might be adversely influencing her decision or desire to undergo SRS. (Nyk suffers from multiple comorbid psychiatric disorders, but he now has revised his psychiatric history to claim he was "only once diagnosed with OCD" as opposed to the plethora of diagnoses he listed in the Psychiatry video, including bipolar.)

has been taking female hormones (for a specified period - usually a minimum of 6 months), unless it is considered medically unsafe to do so.

is fully adjusted to living in society as a woman or – if not yet living as a woman – must have a satisfactory explanation as to why this is the case.

is fully aware of the consequences, cost, details, complications and surgical and non-surgical options available to treat her gender dysphoria.

is aware that SRS is irreversible.

is considered suitable by him / her to undergo SRS insofar as he/she offers no reason why you should NOT undergo SRS and that SRS is necessary for the patient’s long-term well-being.

If the letter has all (or most of) those "ingredients", and the doctor is competent to write and sign it by virtue of his / her qualifications and credentials, Dr Suporn will accept that as suitable referral.

http://www.supornclinic.com/restricted/Scheduling/protocol.aspx
​

The letter from the "therapist" is just a formality. It doesn't really matter under the informed consent regime, in the US any therapist will just sign off on any ole thing that comes in through the door asking for permission to have bottom surgery, but Nyk had to try his revised erotic history before his fans on Youtube to see if it would stick, and of course it stuck because none of these braindead morons noticed that Nyk had left out all of the diagnoses he had listed in the Psychiatry video from the erotic history he told in the AGP video. It's a revised narrative Nyk prepared for his therapist but no one noticed it and if they did no one had the nerve to say anything about it. Nyk got away with covering up (in plain view) of a large part of his psychiatric record, and he now feels confident about getting away with the same thing before the therapist who is going to prepare his referral, no questions asked - who doesn't care and would approve it anyway because they approve even exceptional people and people suffering from multiple personality disorder for GRS.



Here is a public Livestream Nyk did with lolcow colleague Milo Stewart with the whole story about ordering drugs from the internet and then going to Chase Brexton ("Our goal is not to treat you “regardless of” who you are, but to affirm and help you become who you are!") where he received drugs on demand without ever being asked to see a psychiatrist to get a proper diagnosis before being given drugs. Note also that Chase Brexton made him wait for two months, but even that was too long for a drug addict like Nyk who wants his fix right here right now.

Nyk: I have avoided going to the doctor apart from the informed consent clinic I go to which is really good.

MS : Oh! Later I would be interested in knowing how you feel about informed consent.

Nyk:Well, Chase Brexton is a place I go to in Baltimore and it's actually kind of amazing in terms of... they like sorta know what trans people are like, and any time you have to fill in your legal name on a form they also ask you your preferred name, they ask what your pronouns are, it just makes a big difference in terms of the comfort of your experience there you know, that they have some basic knowledge about this stuff. So, I have had basically a really good experience there.

...

MS: What was the process of getting on informed consent like for you?

Nyk: It was really easy for me. And a lot of people have asked me: "How the fuck did you do that?". Well, I always have to put a disclaimer before this, but, this is not medical advice. But, I originally started with black market hormones. I was getting them on the internet. I mean, they worked or whatever, I did that for, like, a month and a half before I even showed up to the clinic. Because the clinic, I called them, and they made me wait for, like, three months or something. Or, it wasn't that bad, it was, like, two months, two and a half months to get an appointment. And at the time I was like, my dysphoria was at its max and I was like, no, I am not, I can't wait that long. (Look at that smug look on his face in this part of the video. He knows he is just delivering a script and getting away with it because Milo doesn't have the wit to question it. His narrative about being unable to wait for 2 months to go the clinic and just having to get internet drugs is such BS on the face of it, because he now has to wait a whole year before he can go to dr. Suporn in Thailand, so what is he going to do in the mean time, self-castrate?)

So I started [inaudible] and then when I came in, as femme as possible, and I told them I was a transwoman, she/her pronouns, my preferred name is Natalie, I am already on black market hormones and just trying to get a prescription here. And they were like, alright - what they said was, we don't usually give you a prescription the first day but since you are gonna do it anyway...

MS: It's safer, so we might as well to give it to you.

Nyk: It's safer, it's really better that you do this with a prescription, so I will give you a prescription. And I just walked in and walked out with a fucking prescription.

MS: That was what it was like for me, except I wasn't on black market hormones. ​

Nyk never mentions Chase Brexton asking him to go and see a psychiatrist first and receive a referral for HRT because of having actually been diagnosed with gender dysphoria before getting drugs or anything else. Chase Brexton just affirms everything in the name of informed consent.

What the fucking fuck?

I knew informed consent was growing, but jesus christ I didn't expect it to reach the east coast this quickly.

"Pediatric trans care"

And Chase Brexton has five locations in Maryland. That's as many as five ones. And that's terrible.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

Any proof of this? I can remember at least one occasion when I attempted to watch a livestream of Contra's hours after it aired (one of them being a big one with Lindsay Ellis, Dan Olson, and eventually more people) and the stream turned out to have been privated. I guess it wouldn't surprise me if Contra either revealed some inconvenient information or had a meltdown on air and needed to private, but would be nice to see confirmation.

Start listening here, it's all a matter of public record.

 

[Brain Problems]

This is all so deranged. How can any sane person read/listen to any of this and not think that we're watching slow-motion trainwrecks that will make lobotomies look tame by comparison? The real cherry on this shit sundae is the gall of someone as mentally ill as Nick attempting to convey any degree of knowledge or authority on any subject. As his personal hero would say, clean your fucking room Nick.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

This is all so deranged. How can any sane person read/listen to any of this and not think that we're watching slow-motion trainwrecks that will make lobotomies look tame by comparison? The real cherry on this shit sundae is the gall of someone as mentally ill as Nick attempting to convey any degree of knowledge or authority on any subject. As his personal hero would say, clean your fucking room Nick.

There is so much more that people have no idea about who didn't get to see the old Nykytyne2 videos, I have only scratched the surface. For example, one of Nyk's first videos after he made his comeback as ContraPoints v 2.0 was a video attacking Blaire White for making fun of non-passing transpeople and self-declared trans enbees. Nyk took offense to Blaire making fun of people who look kinda funny and ridiculous... but how many people know that Nyk himself once made a video titled "Crowds" in which he stated that, "99.99% of humanity is hideous to look at."? Nyk's narcissism was once laid bare for all to see. Too bad the original is no longer online, here is the response video:

This is why he deleted all of his old videos, the Nykytyne2 ones as well as the old ContraPoints videos. He just doesn't want all these new people who worship him as a woke SJW to know he is the same vain misanthropic narcissist he always was, and that his narcissism is now comparatively worse than ever before. He doesn't want people to see the hypocrisy of him hate-fucking Blaire for her videos laughing at AGP hons, enbees and transtrenders, when he himself is the one who thinks that the overwhelming majority of people are fugly AF and that he has to be the prettiest thing in the room so he can be at the center of attention like the exhibitionistic egomaniac he is.

 

[TheImportantFart]

I said this in the hbomberguy thread, and I'm going to repeat it here. I think there is definitely a gap in the market for criticising certain anti-SJWs. While I think SJWs are terrible and need to be fought, some people have gone a bit overboard in that opposition. The fact some have lurched so hard to the right in reaction to SJWs is a point that, I think, is worthy of scrutiny.

The trouble is, as far as I'm aware, there is absolutely no middle ground on this stuff. The people criticising anti-SJWism, or the so-called "reasonable SJWs" are themselves dyed-in-the-wool SJWs who believe things as loony as the next screeching Tumblr user. It's true of Shaun, it's true of hbomberguy and it's true of Contra. There isn't a potholer54 on this - someone who, while coming down on a side, argues the issues in a dispassionate, fact-driven way and focuses on the issues themselves rather than engaging in petty personal attacks.

And the thing that annoys me most about Contra (this applies to others like her too) is that when you see her on a livestream with someone, you'll come away thinking she seems pretty sensible. But then you go to her Twitter or watch one of her videos and it's like it's a completely different person - the true insanity shines through and you're left with the depressing realisation that no, there isn't someone with a reasonable stance on these issues out there. It happens with Kevin Logan and Tim Blake too - when they're talking to someone like Sargon they'll make points which, while not necessarily correct, at least sound like they're grounded in reality. But then it's back to Twitter to sperg about stupid shit and white knight the loonies in their camp.

Christopher Hitchens once said something which perfectly highlights the biggest stumbling block anti-anti-SJWs have (don't worry, I linked to the relevant part of this):

Essentially what he says is that religious moderates will constantly say "judge us not by our extremists", but whenever someone on their side does something stupid, the silence is always deafening. Same's true with anti-anti-SJWs. They'll go on and on about how anti-SJWs are making unfair strawmans of their ideology, but then go on to cover for people who are walking stereotypes of everything people hate about SJWism.

Contra's no better.

 

[Grand Lunar]

And the thing that annoys me most about Contra (this applies to others like her too) is that when you see her on a livestream with someone, you'll come away thinking she seems pretty sensible.

I'm somewhat hesitant to even give her that much credit. She's better than most SJWs at pretending to be sensible with opposition in order to draw them in, but if you've seen enough of her you know she has limits. As mentioned earlier, I first heard her speak in her debate with Blaire White, and honestly throughout most of the debate I was laughing at how illogical and delusional she sounded.
That was nothing compared to the Lauren Southern stream mega-stream, in which she opened up by declaring America "Disneyland for white supremacists," ragingly accused Nick Fuentes of "calling for the death of all trans people," and legitimately tried to argue that "rape culture" in America is somehow equivalent to Saudi Arabia.

Essentially what he says is that religious moderates will constantly say "judge us not by our extremists", but whenever someone on their side does something stupid, the silence is always deafening. Same's true with anti-anti-SJWs. They'll go on and on about how anti-SJWs are making unfair strawmans of their ideology, but then go on to cover for people who are walking stereotypes of everything people hate about SJWism.

I'd argue that Contra has actually passed this point by now. Contra is really only willing to disavow left wing extremists of any sort when there's absolutely no way around it without automatically losing. She's consistently made apologetics for Antifa (sometimes bordering on outright support), and applies bigotry of low expectations to the point that there's almost nothing trans activists can do that won't be blamed on "cisnormative culture." Contra is far from being a moderate who covers for extremists simply because she finds them useful to her end goals. She's pretty much a thinly veiled extremist herself.

 

[TheImportantFart]

I'm somewhat hesitant to even give her that much credit. She's better than most SJWs at pretending to be sensible with opposition in order to draw them in, but if you've seen enough of her you know she has limits. As mentioned earlier, I first heard her speak in her debate with Blaire White, and honestly throughout most of the debate I was laughing at how illogical and delusional she sounded.
That was nothing compared to the Lauren Southern stream mega-stream, in which she opened up by declaring America "Disneyland for white supremacists," ragingly accused Nick Fuentes of "calling for the death of all trans people," and legitimately tried to argue that "rape culture" in America is somehow equivalent to Saudi Arabia.

I'd argue that Contra has actually passed this point by now. Contra is really only willing to disavow left wing extremists of any sort when there's absolutely no way around it without automatically losing. She's consistently made apologetics for Antifa (sometimes bordering on outright support), and applies bigotry of low expectations to the point that there's almost nothing trans activists can do that won't be blamed on "cisnormative culture." Contra is far from being a moderate who covers for extremists simply because she finds them useful to her end goals. She's pretty much a thinly veiled extremist herself.

Fair enough. I don't follow her that closely, I've only seen a few of her videos, the occassional tweet and her livestreams with Sargon and Roaming Millennial where she seemed okay (although there were a few moments that made me raise an eyebrow during the Sargon stream).

I heard the Blaire White debate was pretty bad though and the fact she pals around with Milo Stewart, Queer Kid Stuff and Riley J Dennis always made me suspicious that she wasn't quite as rational as I'd been lead to believe. I did notice that a lot of anti-SJWs used to treate her with an odd kind of reverence and thought there might be something to that, but her videos are nowhere near as good as some make them out to be.

The free speech one in particular which everyone gushed over was actually pretty bad - Harmful Opinions went way too easy on it with his response video.

 

[saltnpepe]

It's the CURRENT YEAR and people still think that e-troons can form opinions for any purpose outside of sneaking their pet non-issues into popular discourse.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

More on Nyk's shameless hypocrisy: At one point in the Tiffany Tumbles video Nyk is ridiculing Blaire White for the video she uploaded with messages she has received from LGBT people who are threatened in the Middle East. Few people however know that when Nyk started out on Youtube in his early 20s, he himself was posting videos that were critical of Islam. One video in 2009 was titled "Criticizing Islam Without Racism or Xenophobia" and the other "Islam: Reform Or Get Out". It takes a special kind of mental illness - not gender dysphoria - to not see the hypocrisy of Nyk ridiculing Blaire for posting the kind of video he himself once posted when he was a young Youtuber about Blaire White's age.

Just like he would eventually do with the old videos on the ContraPoints v 1.0 channel, in 2010 Nyk purged all of his early Nykytyne2 videos including the ones about Islam. His subscribers complained about Nyk deleting his old videos and adopting a more "yuppie" tone in his new ones, but he ignored them, just like he is doing now that he has re-invented himself as "trans" after deleting the old ContraPoints videos. People need to realize that this habit of Nyk re-inventing himself after purging any trace of his past is something he has done again and again.

Nyk has repeatedly been asked on Twitter and Youtube if he will make another video about Islam but he is so terrified of upsetting his "woke" audience that he won't even answer those tweets or comments asking him for a new one. I wonder what his friend Nice Mangoes/Eiynah Mohammed-Smith would say about the above videos - in case you don't know, she is an American queer woman from Pakistan who made a name for herself on the internet for writing and designing a Pakistani LGBT book for children and being critical-but-not-quite of Islam, on whose podcast Nyk has appeared a few times. Nyk and Nice Mangoes detest Blaire but I guess Nice Mangoes doesn't know about the content Nyk was posting that he now wants people to forget about.

It's the CURRENT YEAR and people still think that e-troons can form opinions for any purpose outside of sneaking their pet non-issues into popular discourse.

It amazes me that people still have discussions about whether a drunken addict like Nyk is a legitimate interlocutor. I suppose when you have VICE, Boing Boing and Current Affairs lining up to do these public fellatio pieces even the most abominable person suddenly gains the veneer of legitimacy. Please remember at all times that these publications are the very same ones who brought you the lunacy of John "Gringo" McAfee, Julian Assange, Manning, and other lunatics. They love plugging these charismatic, "derranged genius no one understands/insufferable narcissist" types and Nyk fits their profile. One of these publications referring to Nyk as a "botched philosopher" was the highlight - what a PC way to refer to what is simply an addict who let his throw at a Philosophy PhD go to waste because because of his alcoholism and prescription drug issues. The only reason that Nyk is treated with reference by anti-SJW Youtubers is because Nyk is the living breathing stereotype of the emasculated, delusional, drug crazed, champagne left who cannot achieve anything practical other than successfully plugging their personal brand by getting drunk on a Livestream and pontificating about "Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Communism" and other technoanarchist delusions of the left. Anti-SJWs love Nyk because he living the stereotype to the t. "I have never made but one prayer to God, 'O Lord, make my enemies ridiculous'.". Karma is such a wonderful thing.

 

[Grand Lunar]

More on Nyk's shameless hypocrisy: At one point in the Tiffany Tumbles video Nyk is ridiculing Blaire White for the video she uploaded with messages she has received from LGBT people who are threatened in the Middle East. Few people however know that when Nyk started out on Youtube in his early 20s, he himself was posting videos that were critical of Islam. One video in 2009 was titled "Criticizing Islam Without Racism or Xenophobia" and the other "Islam: Reform Or Get Out". It takes a special kind of mental illness - not gender dysphoria - to not see the hypocrisy of Nyk ridiculing Blaire for posting the kind of video he himself once posted when he was a young Youtuber about Blaire White's age.

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Just like he would eventually do with the old videos on the ContraPoints v 1.0 channel, in 2010 Nyk purged all of his early Nykytyne2 videos including the ones about Islam. His subscribers complained about Nyk deleting his old videos and adopting a more "yuppie" tone in his new ones, but he ignored them, just like he is doing now that he has re-invented himself as "trans" after deleting the old ContraPoints videos. People need to realize that this habit of Nyk re-inventing himself after purging any trace of his past is something he has done again and again.

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Nyk has repeatedly been asked on Twitter and Youtube if he will make another video about Islam but he is so terrified of upsetting his "woke" audience that he won't even answer those tweets or comments asking him for a new one. I wonder what his friend Nice Mangoes/Eiynah Mohammed-Smith would say about the above videos - in case you don't know, she is an American queer woman from Pakistan who made a name for herself on the internet for writing and designing a Pakistani LGBT book for children and being critical-but-not-quite of Islam, on whose podcast Nyk has appeared a few times. Nyk and Nice Mangoes detest Blaire but I guess Nice Mangoes doesn't know about the content Nyk was posting that he now wants people to forget about.

Well, I did watch a livestream Contra did with Eiynah a while ago.

In it, Eiynah basically says that she detests the right because she thinks that they hate muslims as people and just want to hurt them, but that she thinks the left needs to be less pussyfooted about speaking out against oppression of women&LGBT people in the Islamic world. Interestingly, she actually contradicts Contra a few times. Can't remember where, but at one point Contra asks if there's actually anything in the Quran that could be used to justify terrorism/violence (rhetorically, not as an open question), and Eiynah responds "well, yes actually." Contra is clearly annoyed that her friend is actually going against the narrative she wants to spin and quickly redirects to avoid having to talk about this.

As for Blaire White, when did Contra specifically reference the video she made about LGBT fans from the Middle East? From the above, it actually does seem that Contra is at least sane enough to have some sympathy for LGBT people trapped in the Middle East instead of dismissing it entirely. If you're talking about the one scene from his latest video where "Tiffany Tumbles" says that she doesn't like Muslims, my guess is that Contra's talking about Blaire's attitude towards Islam in general, which Contra probably thinks is too abrasive and supposedly careless in regards to actual hate groups hijacking her words. Not to give Contra too much credit of course, her approach to addressing this topic is still idiotic and in contrast with her own self-interest.

 

[ussr_loli]

The fact that ContraPoints actively shames transwomen MtFs who try to conform and live their lives like real women (Blair White), WHILE simultaneously trying to fleece his followers out of thousands just so he can get the same exact surgeries that Blair White had, leaves me confused. If he is such a woman, and knows everything about women's oppression and blah blah, already, then why does he need SRS or FFS?

I think that if his surgeries go successfully, he will just become more and more insufferable. We already know he sees ordinary people as ugly (judging by that 99% of people are ugly video) and is in love with himself (considering his constant ranting about what a beautiful man he was). He was by no means ugly but he was just average, him constantly talking himself up is just more evidence of his blatant narcissism.

Wonder how his narcissistic mind feels, knowing he will never be a conventionally attractive girl, no matter how much money he wastes.

 

[Nykysnottrans]

As for Blaire White, when did Contra specifically reference the video she made about LGBT fans from the Middle East?

He doesn't do that specifically. He thinks he's above making response videos anymore when it's obvious that's what he did. Remember, he still denies that he's hate-fucking Blaire with that Tiffany Tumbles video. He expects people watching the video to be already familiar with Blaire's content and with his vendetta against her and to get the reference to "Muslims!" being to Blaire's video without getting specific or overt about it so that he has plausible deniability when people ask if the video is about Blaire.

Here is another video Nyk did back then with a female atheist Youtuber poking fun at Islam and current events. Nyk plays a New Age guru or "spiritual counselor for the headless", in reference to those beheaded by Islamist extremists (nowadays associated with ISIS but they were already occuring at the beginning of the war on terror, with the video recordings ending up on the internet as downloads because there was no Youtube at the time):

There were all these videos critical of Islam from Nyk back in the day, but Blaire White is an islamophobe racist because she made one video about LGBT members of her audience being prosecuted in the Middle East. It was fine for Nyk and his girlfriend to make funny videos about Islam but God forbid Blaire would make a serious one. He is such a hypocrite about these things.

 

[Voltaire]

That Tiffany Tumbkes video shows contra up for how truly petty ''she" is. When calling everyone you disagree with a crypto racist, and use your media blogger friends to repost your videos to inflate the numbers all the meanwhile proffering safe opinions still makes you only a fraction as popular as Blaire white. Someone who clearly puts minimal effort in comparison that made her blasted beyond belief. Also check out all the streams where she is drinking at just past noon or the ones she deleted where she got black out drunk, contra is a fucking wreck over internet shit it's amazing. A glimpse into pure degeneracy.