Megathread Insane Parents of "Transgender" Kids - Parents who push a transgender identity on their children

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Okay I'm speaking as someone who is not a parent, but this just baffles me.

When a young kid says "I am a dog" or "I am a superhero" or "I am a dinosaur" or "I have an (imaginary) friend named Sam" or whatever else, we chalk that up to a youthful imagination, right? It is fun to play and we kind of let them have their fun and eventually they'll grow out of it, but we would never (or at least I hope not) encourage any kind of odd behavior in public. I mean if a child pretending to be a dog lifts his leg and pisses on me or starts sniffing a dog's butt, I'd like to think the parents would stop it.

But if they claim to be the opposite gender from what they were born with, parents are now morally obligated to get them the surgeries and everything else at a very young age and if they don't, they are harming the child? Um...okay.
 
it is accurate, they used peritoneal (abdominal cavity lining) tissue to give more length, plus it excretes some kind of fluid. It isn't like vaginal fluid and it isn't known if it smells bad or not because the procedure is so new & very few people have gotten a whiff of peritoneal fluid without blood being mixed in.
My gut feeling (haha, see what I did there?) is that having to suture together two types of tissue into one orifice is going to create more opportunity for constricting scar tissue, adhesions (out of control scar expansion), or separation of the two tissues at the site where they join. Inverting a dick is troublesome enough when it is one discrete type of tissue. No one knows what the fuck happens ten years from now with a piece of abdominal cavity lining sewn into an inverted penis. Really seems wrong for a doctor to do it without knowing ahead of time since it is essentially cosmetic. The other options were tissue expanders (baloons under the skin with saline injected into them to create extra skin to use for surgery, they do this for all kinds of surgeries so it is much saner IMO) or topical specialized testosterone to grow the dick temporarily before surgery.

The worst part of all this rearranging is that it guarantees he will never have a sex drive. There was some question about developing a sex drive if testosterone was introduced previous to surgery, but now there isn't a chance. It might even be dangerous to use testosterone post operatively since it isn't clear what parts of the remaining tissue would grow in response to any testosterone introduced into the system. it is a "vagina" for show only. It is unlikely that Jazz could even become a bitter house wife that fucks her husband out of duty, because guys who want that arrangement generally want to have kids. Chasers aren't going to be into him either anymore. Its going to be a really lonely life.
How much fluid does it excrete? Hopefully not enough to put Jazz in a diaper or something.

Poor kid should have just lived as a feminine male.:(
 
How much fluid does it excrete? Hopefully not enough to put Jazz in a diaper or something.

Poor kid should have just lived as a feminine male.:(

I honestly won't be surprised if he later admits to regretting transitioning. He probably could've just lived as a feminine man and be perfectly happy. Read through what his childhood was like, how rehearsed his speeches about wanting to be a girl were, how unnatural his way of speaking was (as a 4 year old child!), and it becomes pretty clear that his mum was pretty much manipulating him into wanting to transition at such a ridiculously young age. It really is sad.
 
Okay I'm speaking as someone who is not a parent, but this just baffles me.

When a young kid says "I am a dog" or "I am a superhero" or "I am a dinosaur" or "I have an (imaginary) friend named Sam" or whatever else, we chalk that up to a youthful imagination, right? It is fun to play and we kind of let them have their fun and eventually they'll grow out of it, but we would never (or at least I hope not) encourage any kind of odd behavior in public. I mean if a child pretending to be a dog lifts his leg and pisses on me or starts sniffing a dog's butt, I'd like to think the parents would stop it.

But if they claim to be the opposite gender from what they were born with, parents are now morally obligated to get them the surgeries and everything else at a very young age and if they don't, they are harming the child? Um...okay.
Or maybe they don't even say so and their psycho parents just wanted a kid of the opposite sex. There's at least one account on reddit of a man raised as a girl by his crazy-ass mother who manipulated him into thinking that his penis would just fall off someday. Because it was the 80s or 90s and people weren't cucked by woke agenda, child services stepped in early enough that's he's not super psychologically damaged.
 
At least one person was prevented from cashing in on this debacle.
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Not sure which trans thread this belongs in, but Jazz has been discussed in this one.

So much for a groundbreaking experimental surgery
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https://twitter.com/JazzJennings__/status/1092971725820780544
http://archive.fo/iNjcr

I hope this is the "transitioning" where she finds out her ultimate rude awakening.

Transgenderism isn't even a real thing, it's just 10% fags in drag and 90% autistic hetero weebs.

And then people want you to call them by their proper "pronouns" and shit. It's fucking stupid.

At least one person was prevented from cashing in on this debacle.
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Imagine how much of an existential crisis Jazz is going to have when she finds out that she was just a merchandising tool the whole time.
 
So here's a follow-up on an interview with a crazy trans-parent. It's like super-anonymous, except for the dozens of photos provided, and the fact the family live in the Bay Area, the 25 minute Youtube with her name on it, and then the public FB profile with Pride flags all over it.


There's a FB post from 12 October 2015: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10153600362642295&set=a.433993162294&type=3&theater (http://archive.li/JDkWK) where the poor boy's name has already been trooned from Luke to Gracie (he's 4 there; now 7)

Dad has a 'up the IRA' post on his FB, because nothing says 'pride' like blowing people up.

https://www.kqed.org/futureofyou/44...rms-with-young-daughters-transgender-identity

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So much munchy.

Have to say, I didn't think there would be any overlap between 'Irish nationalists' and 'people who troon out their kids'.
A lot of these transing parents seem to be nationalistic, conservative, often super religious and absolutely 'heteronormative'. They cannot stand the fact that their child will likely grow up to be gay.

This particular child abuse victim has had a lot of coverage in the Australian media over the years

https://www.9news.com.au/2019/01/29...s-australia-child-self-harm-and-mental-health

This is the doctor, Elizabeth Riley, gender identity specialist.

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Bitch, you got short hair, you need to become Dr. Elliott Riley.

“I wanted to die,” Evie, now 13, told 9news.com.au.

“I would’ve rather gone to heaven and been a girl than live here as a boy.”

Sorry Evie, trannies are going to hell.
“When we got home I was really angry and upset and said: ‘Why can’t you accept me for who I am?’“" Certain colours are who you are, not just a personal preference.

I feel really bad for Jazz...he's going to die a virgin.
And likely he'll never even have an orgasm. This is the sickest...
I noted somewhere that he'd had a bris. Wonder if a bris gone wrong could have started this parental bs.

Quoted for anyone who hasn't seen the details of neo-vag post surgical care.

Jazz had to get a revision of some sort. I am interested to know what goes wrong/how much the show reveals.

If you take away someone's sex drive with chemical castration, why does it even matter if they have a neovagina? Neovaginas are just for sexual purposes.
And yet what actual sexual purpose will it serve when he's never experienced arousal in his life? He'd just be going through the motions with no joy.

Yes, not being able to have intercourse is an odd side effect of cutting off your genitalia.
!!! I wonder how Jazz's faux positivity will cope with this.

Thank you both, Crunchy Leaf and BigRuler, so much for your patience and understanding. It's just strange to me because Jazz is infinitely more feminine than Brianna Wu.
Third person pronoun usage has little or nothing to do with how 'feminine' a transie looks. It's a personal choice, not compelled speech.

Jazz doesn't look particularly like a little boy, that's just a bias that you guys have because you know she's transgender. If you met Jazz on the street and didn't know she was transgender, there'd be no question in your mind if she was male or female.

Look at Jazz's transgender friend, Skylar, who transitioned at 11. Does she look like a eunuch to you? If a child is given cross-sex hormones early enough, they will develop physically like the opposite sex.
There is no proof that blockers and xhormones will result in a more 'feminine' looking boy. All these procedures are off label and the TRA lobby prevents any actual research on the subject. Look at what happened to Lisa Littman when she dared to point these things out, including the currently high numbers of children and youth who demand to 'transition'.

Shit, that’s Susie Green’s kid? He looks like a fratboy in his finest Rumer Willis cosplay.
Good call.

Absolutely tragic - poor kid literally never had a chance with a mother like that.

And of course the family's Jewish. Why are they always at the forefront of pushing this kind of crap?
Seems to be common amongst religious conservatives as I mentioned above.

The reason I ask is because a lot of the symptoms for being a troon sound hell of a lot like the symptoms for depression. Maybe, just maybe, self harm isn't a treatment for depression or having the "wrong body".
Research (Blanchard et al) and anecdotal evidence such as that documented on KF shows that those who wish to transition have multiple comorbidities and paraphilias. Transvestism is one of the most common fetishes in men.

Or, to match the topic of this thread better:

Mom: "No one pays attention to me or my child! My child isn't a stereotype! He/she is unique!"
*browses left-wing women's sites*
Mom: "The child must be wrong gender!"
*cuts off dick/breasts*
Kid: "Everyone likes us now!"
and continues as above
Citation for left wing women's sites that encourage transitioning children please.

I just learned about another complication that affects 1 in 10 dickcutters and therefore may await Jazz:
"Vaginal prolapse."
Source: http://drlindahumphries.com/?p=1170
(Feel free to use your imagination. Or better don't.)

One can get it by intense working out, or simply by sneezing too hard.
Jazz did have a prolapse right after the first surgery and had to have another one to deal with that.

Watching latest Jazz ep. Jazz Jennings is the first person I've ever heard say that they love dilating. He just showed his dilators to someone in front of his mom.
But it's not a fetish.

How much fluid does it excrete? Hopefully not enough to put Jazz in a diaper or something.

Poor kid should have just lived as a feminine male.:(
I've heard that baby/diaper fetishes can develop when children have genital/urethral surgery and/or sexual abuse.
 
Teen Vogue is SJW/libfem, not leftie. Jezebel is tranny central, doling out large drafts of the koolaid. I haven't been able to read enough of it to determine what its politics are.

As far as I know, any vaguely leftie woman's site (formerly GenderTrender, 4thWaveNow, HandsAcross the Isle, Mumsnet or Feminist Current) is not advocating for transing kids and almost all take the attitude that no one cares about what adults do to mutilate their bodies as long as they take responsibility for the repercussions.

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Here's Jazz being his usual holier-than-thou, sassy know-it-all, ordering boys to date boys who say they're girls because it 100% doesn't make a dude gay to date a boy as long as the boy is cosplaying as a girl, plus transgirls are real live girls so don't be transphobic. Transgirls exist and they are real live girls!

Here's Jazz being his usual holier-than-thou, sassy know-it-all, ordering boys to date boys who say they're girls because it 100% doesn't make a dude gay to date a boy as long as the boy is cosplaying as a girl, plus transgirls are real live girls so don't be transphobic. Transgirls exist and they are real live girls!
Wow! Jazz actually says I love people for who they are on the inside. Wtf? Then why why why did you have to change your outside body so much?
 
How much fluid does it excrete? Hopefully not enough to put Jazz in a diaper or something.
Probably not a lot- peritoneal fluid is there to keep your abdominal cavity organs from chafing while they shift around from things like digestion, there isn't typically a lot in there at any given time... but again, this is an extremely new procedure so its an experiment. It isn't even a 10 year old procedure, it may turn out to start gushing like a faucet after a certain age/time frame. Peritoneal fluid is not very well studied, it can be used for dialysis instead of the bloodstream, and if there is too much of it you drain it out and order the only test specific to peritoneal fluid (this test hasn't changed in my lifetime, because there is no need for more information). Most of the test is just what color it is when it comes out of the patient, lol. That's usually all that medical professionals need to know about it, maybe this frankenstein bullshit will yield some interesting new information about peritoneal fluid.

Maybe the opposite of gushing will happen and it will totally dry out, and since your peritoneal tissue is supposed to be inside the abdominal cavity, I don't know what happens when it dries out. Doesn't seem good, most cavity linings that are meant to stay moist get painful or bleed when they are abnormally dry. They really should have sewn pieces of peritoneal tissue into rat skin or something before doing it on human beings, eh?
 
New Probably not a lot- peritoneal fluid is there to keep your abdominal cavity organs from chafing

You are right. This is what dr. Ting said about the new technique according to multilated men on reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/6dbrao/comment/di1rzg6

Dr. Ting used scrotal tissue for my vaginal canal. According to Dr. Ting, the peritoneal tissue technique is still quite experimental, and does not provide a whole lot of moisture. Currently it's being used in patients who don't have enough scrotal skin to create a vaginal canal.


https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransge...d_srs_with_dr_jess_ting_in_new_york_city_two/
I should note that I did not have peritoneal tissue used in my procedure as a small number of people who have gone to Ting have had. Ting seemed really excited about this when he first started doing it over six months ago, but he advised me against it the morning of surgery and said he's had some issues with the procedure overall. Take that for what it is worth.

Doesn't sound good

edit: it gets worse

https://www.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/8ntma4/is_jess_tings_self_lubing_vagina_superior/

I talked to my surgeon about it during my consultation and he said that it was an awful alternative to the normal method of surgery. He explained that the lining of tissue used for the vagina is easily torn and smells extremely bad. Hope this helps.

https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,237694.0.html
I have spoke to just about any surgeon who performs excellent sigmoid colon surgery - Dr. Preecha, Dr. Kaushik, Dr. Bouman, Dr. Kamol - and they all agree that it's a lower quality choice.

The simple reason is that the peritoneal lining is hardly trauma resistant - which is why all of them abandoned this option for the surgeries they offer and ONLY go with sigmoid colon SRS.

So THAT'S the reason Jazz' stink ditch came apart. The stomach tissue rips open easily. I guess Jazz won't love dilation as much as he claims.
 
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I have felt sorry for poor Jazz Jennings for so many reasons. For being groomed into this role. For having a crazy mother. For being pimped out for a media circus. For not getting a chance to experience puberty. For not getting a chance to use his genitals prior to having them operated on. For getting to experience depression and anxiety while being forced to perform for cameras. For having the entire world knowing about his penis size.

But most of all, I'm profoundly sad for Jazz because no one has prepared him for the idea of AFTER surgery. This kid's entire life has been devoted to transitioning. Lots of post-surgery troons have confessed to a huge depression after surgery, because "now what?" They spend so long anticipating how it will fix things. And it fixes literally nothing. Your problems are still there. Jazz has been all-trans, all-the-time for his entire life. Constantly talking about getting a "vagina". Doing trans health conferences, trans books, a trans tv show, trans friend groups. Is he just going to be a Professional Troon for the rest of time? Does he have any other plans or ambitions?

I've been watching this kid for years. And I have no idea about stuff like what he wants to be when he grows up, or his favourite subject in school, or what kinds of books he likes. That makes me sad.
 
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