Jaron Seth Bloshinsky / Jazz Jennings / I Am Jazz - Puberty Blockers: Not Even Once

[SourDiesel]

Hello darkness, my old friend
I've come to talk with you again ♪

I understand depression is a serious issue and affects a lot of people but I sometimes get the vibe that a lot of these 'tumblr-teens' are really just not able to handle the fact that they're growing up. It's not so much a crippling mental illness as it's a lack of preparation after being coddled and protected, how would you manage to make sense of suddenly having all these expectations, freedoms, and responsibilities thrust upon you if you're completely unprepared because it's always been taken care of by other people. Reality and adulthood is too much for them. Very few people maintain a consistent group of friends their whole live because as you grow you change, it's an unrealistic expectation of life stagnating at that cusp of adulthood.

Honestly, I believe this is true. In general, I think all kinds of people these days tend to use the language of actual mental illness to describe any and all normal emotional issues they may experience that aren't positive. Like saying you're depressed when your gf or bf leaves you. Being sad and feeling negative is just a normal, temporary response to something bad happening to you. Same with "I have anxiety" when you experience nervousness about work assessments or don't like deadlines or something. Tbh, I think it contributes to the stigma of people with real disorders as it encourages the idea that people will and can "get over it" therefore if you can't, it's a personal failing.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Honestly, I believe this is true. In general, I think all kinds of people these days tend to use the language of actual mental illness to describe any and all normal emotional issues they may experience that aren't positive. Like saying you're depressed when your gf or bf leaves you. Being sad and feeling negative is just a normal, temporary response to something bad happening to you. Same with "I have anxiety" when you experience nervousness about work assessments or don't like deadlines or something. Tbh, I think it contributes to the stigma of people with real disorders as it encourages the idea that people will and can "get over it" therefore if you can't, it's a personal failing.

I think that's a little backwards. The conditions are (poorly) named after the emotions they exacerbate, to the point that in the general consciousness people don't see the distinction and think less of the mentally ill. Make better names, psychologists! Slapping a "clinical" on the front isn't cutting it.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

I think that's a little backwards. The conditions are (poorly) named after the emotions they exacerbate, to the point that in the general consciousness people don't see the distinction and think less of the mentally ill. Make better names, psychologists! Slapping a "clinical" on the front isn't cutting it.

Is that the case, though? I remember Theodore Dalrymple talking about how nobody ever describes themselves as simply "unhappy" anymore, so I'm wondering if a local form of the euphemism treadmill might be at work. Specifically, the reduction of the stigma around mental illness has people more inclined to think of themselves in clinical terms perhaps?

 

[Maggots on a Train v2]

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Yep, that's me. I bet you're wondering how I got into this situation. You see, it all started when I was offered a chance to be on TV...

If that guy wants to be an actor, he better go home or work on his poker face. He obviously dies a bit after every sentence uttered by Troonz.
Wasn't it suspected that TLC was paying a guy to pretend to date 450lb Whitney Way Thore?

 

[Wallace]

Honestly, I believe this is true. In general, I think all kinds of people these days tend to use the language of actual mental illness to describe any and all normal emotional issues they may experience that aren't positive. Like saying you're depressed when your gf or bf leaves you. Being sad and feeling negative is just a normal, temporary response to something bad happening to you. Same with "I have anxiety" when you experience nervousness about work assessments or don't like deadlines or something. Tbh, I think it contributes to the stigma of people with real disorders as it encourages the idea that people will and can "get over it" therefore if you can't, it's a personal failing.

It also leads to the changes that come about at puberty to be interpreted as dysphoria. But yea, @remiem 's point is spot on.

 

[Tiana]

I noticed the deformity a while ago when someone posted this video clip from the show, but I thought maybe his breasts were just saggy or weirdly positioned and that it would be just kind of cruel to point it out.

I'm slightly glad to know I wasn't just seeing things but I also can't imagine what it's like to be brainwashed into believing that taking estrogen will give you a perfect body that you love and to turn out to have cucumber boobs.

Who has said estrogen will give you a perfect body?

 

[Tiana]

Fair enough, but people who had facelifts don't force governments to have their ages changed on their ID (one sole example notwithstanding, and this man is piggybacking on the gender nonsense). And although some fatsos have been forcing doctors to stop "fatshaming", they are summarily ignored by the medical community.

Trannies are a different kettle of fish althougher.


If I may movie-sperg for a minute, this scene is not so much Lynchian than Sonoian. I'm alluding to the Japanese auteur Sion Sono, who regularly have family characters discuss being a prostitute or porn actress on the dinner table.

Are you saying trans people shouldn't be allowed to change? Comparing it to age makes no sense.

 

[The Great Citracett]

Who has said estrogen will give you a perfect body?

Troons.

Lots and lots of troons.

 

[Tiana]

So is being a quadriplegic. So is being a schizophrenic.

Puberty is fucking awful for many people. My bf in school had cystic acne- the painful, face warping kind. Left them permanently scarred though fortunately, eventually, they were able to treat it. But imagine walking around in your formative years looking like a burn victim, how the world responds, and how much that can damage a person’s developing psyche.

It’s not that I don’t have sympathy for trans people; I just don’t think their condition deserves an elevated status— the most aggrieved, the most oppressed.

Ultimately Jazz’s problem isn’t being trans or having gender dysphoria (a diagnosis I don’t believe is accurate in his case). No the hell Jazz is going through rests squarely with Mom and Pops Bloshinsky.

That's interesting considering that the whole "anti SJW" trend has a lot of people who would be okay with making fun of a burns victim looks wise. Also, transsexuality isn't new, but it's only been in very recent history that trans people and the subject of gender dysphoria got mainstream attention in a way it never did before. No one has given it any time to settle and home in on any crazy trans person they can find, ultimately demonizing trans people who just want to live their lives in the long run. Disabled people have generally always been in the background. That subject hasn't, unfortunately ever been a hot topic in the way gay rights or trans rights have been. I don't think anyone on this website is out to change that though.

Troons.

Lots and lots of troons.

No one should give a specific statement about hormones considering that everyone has different experiences. Some people have pretty noticeable changes pretty quickly, and many don't.

I feel like trans people should probably just learn to cope with not looking the way they want to. Most people don't look the way they feel and they don't kill themselves over it. If everyone was in their ideal body, 70% of the human race would probably be big titty cheerleaders (or anthropomorphic animals, if secondlife is anything to go by).

But isn't his new stink ditch also gonna smell bad and leak fluids?

Link to the thread?

What's it to you if people want cosmetic surgery?

 

[ColorfulCassowary]

That's interesting considering that the whole "anti SJW" trend has a lot of people who would be okay with making fun of a burns victim looks wise. Also, transsexuality isn't new, but it's only been in very recent history that trans people and the subject of gender dysphoria got mainstream attention in a way it never did before. No one has given it any time to settle and home in on any crazy trans person they can find, ultimately demonizing trans people who just want to live their lives in the long run. Disabled people have generally always been in the background. That subject hasn't, unfortunately ever been a hot topic in the way gay rights or trans rights have been. I don't think anyone on this website is out to change that though.

I think you're on the wrong forum. You're probably not gonna have fun here.

Also, try to multi quote more often.

 

[Tiana]

I think you're on the wrong forum. You're probably not gonna have fun here.

Also, try to multi quote more often.

Well thanks for the non response that has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[ColorfulCassowary]

Well thanks for the non response that has nothing to do with what I said.

I'm just trying to warn you here.

 

[Tiana]

I'm just trying to warn you here.

I'm well aware of people being pricks, trolls etc, that in itself doesn't bother me honestly. But it doesn't negate what I said.

 

[AnOminous]

Well thanks for the non response that has nothing to do with what I said.

Thanks for taking a flying fuck at a rolling doughnut.

 

[Video Games]

I do wonder why this thread doesn't have the forum rules written above the reply box like others. Something to do with being in the "Off-Topic" forums?

Anyway, I really hope savvy people continue digging into Jazz's new "boyfriend." I get the feeling that there will be mountains of dirt to uncover surrounding him.

 

[MediocreMilt]

Who has said estrogen will give you a perfect body?

Troons.

Lots and lots of troons.

No one should give a specific statement about hormones considering that everyone has different experiences. Some people have pretty noticeable changes pretty quickly, and many don't.

Lol.
Question asked.
Question answered.
Goalposts moved? Goalposts ignored? I can't quite tell.

What's it to you if people want cosmetic surgery?

SRS isn't billed as cosmetic surgery. It's meant to give a person the ability to experience sexual intercourse as the opposite sex (read: grant functionality). It doesn't work, and creates franken-nads, which is why people comment on it.

Also, been said many times since you've started posting, but... multi-quote, faggot. No one needs you to post ten times on one page of the thread.

Better yet, just don't reply to absolutely everything you see in the first place, because that's just dumb to begin with.

 

[Sinner's Sandwich]

LOL "Tiana" is a troon isn't he? And an agp one it seems since he isn't concerned with the horrors sourrounding Jazz. He is only here to defend his ilk from the kiwi trolls.

This thread is about a boy with a batshit insane mother and weak father who was butchered by greedy surgeons and all you can think of is your troon honor.

 

[ColorfulCassowary]

Jazz wants to live independently on her own. How much you wanna bet the instant she gets away from her mother she lives life as a boy again? This is probably the best possible ending, getting away from that piece of shit.

 

[Krokodil Overdose]

Jazz wants to live independently on her own. How much you wanna bet the instant she gets away from her mother she lives life as a boy again? This is probably the best possible ending, getting away from that piece of shit.

Jazz fully cutting ties with his mom and going back to being a guy- as much as he can be- is probably the best ending currently available. (The True Golden Ending opportunity was missed when his dad didn't make his mom part of that concrete foundation that was getting poured across town.) Unfortunately, I'm morbidly curious what will happen if he quits the hormones and shit now- will whatever vestigial masculine biology he has left start to reassert itself, or will he just stay this double-castrated nothing forever?

 

[JambledUpWords]

will whatever vestigial masculine biology he has left start to reassert itself, or will he just stay this double-castrated nothing forever?

I mean, say Jazz does end up detransitioning, it will never be normal. Sure Jazz would be able to get some things back, but those puberty blockers and hormones have already done a lot of damage, even discounting that surgery. Jazz will never have a sexual relationship and won’t be able to function well in general. What seems likely in this case is that when Jazz would detransition, Jazz might still have to dialate because that bottom surgery is pretty much irreversible. It’s a horrible existence to have and honestly, just flat out miserable. I don’t think the mother truly understands the damage she’s inflicted on her kid all in the name of notoriety.