This is probably one reason they're going after Langdon.
Granted, I think some of the things Langdon believes are silly, but that ain't a fucking crime. I've already said I listened to Art Bell when I was a kid, and it was a bit of a guilty pleasure.
"We" now believe he doesn't actually have one. The lawyer he mentioned was probably just for an initial consult.
None. Except that she's friends with some of the VAs there.
The HR thing was bullshit she made up.
It's foolish to go after weird fringe theories even if they're stupid. If you don't give people the ability to believe in aliens, the macaroni galaxy and whatever else, then you run the risk of power shifting against you one day and the powers that be determining you can no longer teach what's considered mainstream now.
seems Ron digging deeper into his trenches:
http://archive.fo/jeAuh
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Nick literally read the Texas penal code on the matter.At this point I'm pretty sure Ron has never read any part of the Texan penal code, and may not have read anything else fully either.
So in my very much non-expert opinion, the odds that anyone ends up in jail/prison over this are very slight. It's not even worth considering, really.
Given what Ty said, if Iago perjures himself, he
will seek to get Iago in jail, simply because he's made it personal. Anyone else though is probably unlikely.
He said he was getting a counselor. Not seeking mental health treatment. Counselors can be priests or lawyers. These people love to look up shit on the internet so much but they don’t even bother looking up the word “counselor”.
There are hundreds, if not thousands of people, in this country that claim they’ve seen sightings of Bigfoot in the woods. Does that mean Bigfoot exists?
Use your goddamn head.
That's an insult to Vic. That something exists which hasn't been captured and identified yet but is commonly considered 'bigfoot' is a credible notion. That Vic might have gone on a raping crusade across cons and voice acting studios for twenty-to-thirty years is not.
We won't know until the complaint is filed.
I do think that Ron's "it's all PR" statement explains a lot about his own behaviour and Shane's. If that's how they view potential legal action, they're in for a rude awakening.
It explains why they're all behaving like this. This is why they keep arguing that Vic isn't doing PR right, and why they won't back down facing the lawsuit. They think this is all just a PR game and whoever wins the people wins the war. Not only are they wrong, but they aren't winning anyway.
I have it on good authority Ty has imposed a sort of a cutoff for at least the initial filing(s) in round 1. Unless it's something minor enough where it can be cut and pasted in before giving it to the clerks at the courthouse. Said clerks stamp documents with the date they receive it, so it's gonna be hard for KickVic to call anyone a liar.
I'm almost positive April 15th is happening. Barring an act of God.
Now, none of them will probably get served until later in the week (process servers are fast, but not that fast), but you can theoretically be reading the lawsuit as soon as the clerk has a copy of it. My HOPE is that Ty gives Nick a copy. It's a public document afterall.
Neither have I. 10 years? Okay, maybe. There were certainly autistic rumblings, I read them when Freeman got popped for CP. They're still in the ANN thread concerning that story.
But not 20, and certainly not 30.
It's been about ten years that unsubstantiated, ridiculous gossip has circulated, but the gossip that sprouted up then claimed that it had been going on 'for years' and 'for ten years' back then, too. So if you combine a decade of flimsy accusations with the original claim of ten years, you get 20 or 30.
The first time I heard rumors that fit the motive of the ones now, was when the Brotherhood dub got released.
Since then every claim has been almost always a copy of the last ones. It happened in bright daylight. In the middle of the convention. Dozens of people around. And apparently no one thought of stopping it or filming it.
Makes me think that even back then someone tried to get him kicked out of the industry. Maybe someone who really wanted the FMA job?
What's most absurd is that they like to snark about how no one would think to pull out a phone to film their assault (though people do it for every other horrible thing in the world), but then they also claim that 'everyone knew' and that he consistently did it for up to three decades. How could no enterprising fujoshis have been watching and filming specifically to catch and out him?
I'm curious as to why this inane idiot thinks deplatforming works when all evidence is that it literally never has.
It's to normalize the concept that the speech isn't allowed, so that his ilk can then outlaw that manner of speech on the basis of 'no one ever allows it except awful people anyway, what's the point of making it legal? It's a sure sign that anyone using it is a criminal anyway', and then open the door to criminalizing and imprisoning anyone who doesn't fall in line.
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Nobody who has to rely on the testimony of others for their defence - as both Shane and Ron must because they didn't actually witness the events they claim happened - should be "begging for a subpoena".
But didn't Vic only announce intent to pursue legal action at the beginning of March or the end of February? That's really only been a month/month and a half.
Kamehacon announced Scott McNeil and unlike everyone else he's going to be doing free signings all weekend long
https://twitter.com/KamehaCon/status/1114704938150584320
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Scott is a cool dude. I prefer Sabat's Piccolo, but Scott is a cool dude.
Shame on Nick, Orcas are smart beautiful creatures, who work hard for their meals and shouldn't be compared to that thing. The ugly, useless manatee is more her style.
I haven't seen anyone giving a fuck about momokun, other than acknowledging her as a fat cosplay thot. Also tagging
@Not A Bug to see if they can give any info / drop hints on this stuff.
I remembered that Ty said the ALOD wanted to crucify La Choy and that other guy for sending an ethics complaint against Nick, a person they barely know. How do you think they feel about him going after their boss, a man they have personally known for a long time? They're going to have fun deposing him.
Don't insult manatees, they're innocent. Call her a dolphin. They're blue and they're the only animals other than humans who rape, murder and bully for fun. Basically, they're the worst but for some reason there's a bunch of people who think they're great.
Manatees don't deserve that sort of comparison. They mind their own buisness and are cute in a sea potato sort of way.
I'd say Ren is more like a blobfish.
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Ever since I found out that blob fish only look that way because of decompression damage, I always feel bad for the poor things. Known for their horribly deformed corpses, rather than what they actually look like.
I like just how passionate the stand with vic side is. We're off making fanart, t-shirts, patches, memes.
What has the kickvic side done? If so many people are on kickvic's side, where's the passion? Where's the strong emotion, the motivation to support your cause? I literally haven't seen even 1 creative thing from the kickvic side.
It's hard to be passionate and creative when your movement is based around hatred.
Mostly unrelated, but it's interesting to note that the infamous Gilles de Rais, aka Bluebeard had that kind of outrageous claims levied against him in court. It was a kangaroo court so lots of other insane and impossible claims were involved, but one of them was seriously that 'there was not one minute of the day that Gilles did not rape or murder a child'. They claimed his body count was in the thousands, which would require him to have been running the countryside wildly murdering and raping everyone he came across all the while not one person ever witnessing this activity except his two supposed co-conspirators. In one particularly amazing moment, he actually existed in two places at once so as to maximize his ability to rape and murder kids who were never actually identified.
Basically, it seems these kinds of defamatory claims haven't changed since the time of the hundred year war, and they had the same purpose then as they do now.
Well, let's analyze that...
She'll probably
try, but she doesn't seem to have gotten a lick of traction out of this, and she's probably not happy. She enjoyed
some success with CtC, but the exact opposite is happening here.
For Youtube, the spike in this graph is CtC. The slight dip you see after January is the fallout from KickVic. Nobody fucking cares about her Youtube.
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Twitter is slightly better (again, the spike is CtC), but we're talking a few hundred new followers, and it's been in the negative since the start of last month, when she really started fucking up.
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Here is Nick by comparison (Youtube, followed by Twitter). His Youtube growth for March wasn't as impressive as his stratospheric growth for February (I think we have to give Shane some credit here, as that stream was fucking
legendary), but he's still running a very health positive of 13.2 new subs for March.
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Conclusion: She's on the fast train to loser-town. She tried to replicate the success of CtC, but has failed. She doesn't have control of the narrative, and has been caught in several lies. Nick will probably have her beat on Twitter by the end of the month. I also predict Nick will qualify for a silver play button by the end of the year.
I mean, seriously, MarzGurl was even a bit of a loser by
CA standards. She was literally the
third choice for Nostalgia Chick. We laugh at Monica being "fourth Bulma," but I'm sure she gets a somewhat decent paycheck out of it.
Now PULL can go cry because the marketplace of ideas has decided their idea of "social justice" is dumb and toxic.
I don't know why she doesn't just shift to a let's play channel or some low cut shirt Twitch streaming. She has enough attention to make it work and it won't end with a lifetime of liens, a ruined reputation, or some kind of jail time.
It's pretty typical of these nuts (at least the ones who are not so mentally gimped the only thing they can allude to is Harry Potter and Steven Universe) to profess admiration for these dystopian fictions, act like the villains in them with their constant demands for lockstep ideological conformity and revenge against those who deviate, and yet to think they're like the heroes.
Hey, Harry Potter is abused to push [current year problematic issue] by vapid SJW types like JKR, but in reality it's a very basic fantasy novel with decent morals about good vs evil in it. I can't think of anything inherently bad about the ideas it instills in people, they just keep piggybacking stupid things onto it, like instead of Voldemort literally being magical Hitler, the Death Eaters become the Alt Right. But you can do that with most anything. See: Fox first co-opting mutants from 'all "otherized" people' into 'literally just gay people' and then into 'wait never mind, they're illegal immigrants'. The message about mutants is inherently a good thing, but SJW types can twist it into something else.