[Confirmed] Chris's recent Walmart altercation - Updated

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Have to say, I did not see this one coming. I honestly thought a couple of days in jail might have chastened Chris a bit--or at the very least, he'd be too busy moving the hoard to get into more trouble right away. So I'm still hoping that this is all speculation and it'll turn out to be nothing ... But Thetan has been reliable before, sooo ...

Maybe this is just another version of Chris's "might be going to prison, gotta bang a hooker" panic. This time it's "might be going to prison, gotta step up my campaign!"
 
If the police get involved again, he can't get out on bond if he ends up in jail again, right?
I don't know how it all works, but it seems logical that if the court gives someone bail, and within days they're out threatening people again, then next time the court could decide to just remand the person til trial.
 
I said this to some friends, but Chris is looking like he is going to be jailed at least for a few months. If so, he stands a very good chance of missing his 15 year reunion. womp womp
 
I don't know how it all works, but it seems logical that if the court gives someone bail, and within days they're out threatening people again, then next time the court could decide to just remand the person til trial.

That's pretty much right. Although it usually takes a lot to have bail suspended (last Friday's discussions covered that well) it's quite possible that, if Chris was arrested today, bail could be automatically revoked and the judge could decide to remand him. I'd guess the felony distinction would be rather important, especially if he's hauled in on another felony.
 
I can't stress this shit enough... Dear God - All over blue fucking arms. ALL OVER BLUE FUCKING ARMS.
I don't want Chris to go to jail - I just fear that it is inevitable, even if this ain't true. If only because there's still that court hearing down the line.
Too bad if that bondsman sues his ass and he don't pay up... Jail time as a possible punishment for Chris just shot through the roof as a possibility.
And once again .....All over blue fucking arms. ALL OVER BLUE FUCKING ARMS.
 
It's funny, but the worst possible thing for Chris right now is if Sega did make an original-armed Sonic fix. It would have absolutely nothing to do with him, but Chris would claim final, ultimate victory, and then find some other windmill to fight.
I'm surprised he didn't sperg over Sonic's eyes being turned green in Sonic 4. After all, that was what turned his fellow lolcow sonmanic away from the Holy Mascot. Maybe he simply didn't notice that because it was on his face.
 
Punishment is the weakest form of behavioral modification when it comes to someone like Chris, who will never be able to see his confinement as anything other than unfair. He'll spend however long he's put away for in a constant state of fear - because prison really is an awful, awful place - and he'll continue to blame SEGA, the trolls, etc. for his punishment. He will not learn from jail, only become an ever more wholly damaged human being.
Yeah, the fear is what we're counting on.

No one cares about Chris blaming people. Everyone's given up on him learning not to blame people. He just needs to learn that, factually, violating the law has consequences. And that's easy enough to do if Chris is scared shitless of jail. And only an actual stint in jail will induce that fear in him.

Otherwise he's way too confident about his place in the world.
 
I can't stress this shit enough... Dear God - All over blue fucking arms. ALL OVER BLUE FUCKING ARMS.
I don't want Chris to go to jail - I just fear that it is inevitable, even if this ain't true. If only because there's still that court hearing down the line.
Too bad if that bondsman sues his ass and he don't pay up... Jail time as a possible punishment for Chris just shot through the roof as a possibility.
And once again .....All over blue fucking arms. ALL OVER BLUE FUCKING ARMS.

I know. Oh, I know. I still really can't get over this. I see people protesting all sorts of actual issues all the time. They go to jail, they get assaulted, they get attention. Chris? Chris does these things FOR A MINOR CHANGE IN A VIDEO GAME CHARACTER.

He is very, very close to ruining his life, such as it is, for this. Stupid asshole is the only the start of the names you can call him.
 
Assuming this happened, I don't think Chris has gotten any worse. He's still the same as ever. He just happened to do something stupid that actually has consequences.
 
Punishment is the weakest form of behavioral modification when it comes to someone like Chris, who will never be able to see his confinement as anything other than unfair. He'll spend however long he's put away for in a constant state of fear - because prison really is an awful, awful place - and he'll continue to blame SEGA, the trolls, etc. for his punishment. He will not learn from jail, only become an ever more wholly damaged human being.

Behavioral correction, despite the similarity to the term "corrections", is only one of several aims of criminal justice. While one might believe that Chris's behavior will not be corrected by incarceration, this does nothing to address the other aims that certainly will be met. First and foremost, the sister goal of correction, incapacitation, is clearly met: Chris won't be able to commit more crimes against the general public during his incarceration.

Deterrence is also met, though to a lesser degree (but certainly no less than with any other common crime): the public will have the idea that improper use of pepper spray is a criminal act reinforced in their minds.

Finally, one of the oldest goals of criminal justice, true punishment, is certainly met. Chris will (hopefully) get his just deserts. This, at least in theory, operates by reinforcing people's confidence in the justice system, and encouraging them to use the police and the courts rather than extrajudicial self-help. At least in this case, the principle might still carry weight in terms of satisfying those who detest Chris, finally silencing their rumblings, because they will be shown that Chris drew a punishment that his behavior deserved.

At any rate, I also disagree that behavioral correction won't take place. Should Chris be incarcerated, he will be required to attend some kind of counseling. If he actually breaks as some people have predicted here, he will be put in a mental hospital unit where he will receive more intense psychiatric care. Regardless of the outcome, whatever happens frankly cannot be worse than leaving him on the outside.
 
I'll just A-log rate myself here and start you all off, because I was thinking how hilarious this would be if Chris WENT to the Wamart to replace the pepper spray the cops confiscated from him. :alog:
 
I blame the LGBT things he went to. That's where he got the pepper spray idea in the first place, no? Can you imagine what some people probably said to him there?

I doubt anybody said anything to him beyond surface superficialities. He's Chris.

People do not actually get initiated on hating men the moment they step into gay clubs, no matter what Rick Santorum told you.
 
Yeah, the fear is what we're counting on.

No one cares about Chris blaming people. Everyone's given up on him learning not to blame people. He just needs to learn that, factually, violating the law has consequences. And that's easy enough to do if Chris is scared shitless of jail. And only an actual stint in jail will induce that fear in him.

Otherwise he's way too confident about his place in the world.
But not punishing and helping in any way reinforce his "deserved privilege" opinion of himself.
And when many a sweetheart tried to give him advice, he brush them off and just nod, having just china in his endgoal. And he refuses (nor would listen to) a therapist.

I could see the only person who'll reasonably be able to influence him as an actual sweetheart who would stay around and eventually let him fuck her. And that's for the tiny window before he sees her as Barb N°2. Nobody is heroic enough to do that.
 
Assuming this happened, I don't think Chris has gotten any worse. He's still the same as ever. He just happened to do something stupid that actually has consequences.
I'd agree if this was a single incident. The whole blind squirrel analogy comes to mind.
Problem is, he did this twice, barely a week apart. It takes a special brand of exceptional stupidity to do that. He's gotten worse in the fact that the deep depths of his stupidity seem to be more lasting rather than the short bursts of stupidity we've grown used to.
 
I doubt anybody said anything to him beyond surface superficialities. He's Chris.

People do not actually get initiated on hating men the moment they step into gay clubs, no matter what Rick Santorum told you.

No no, I didn't mean it like that. I knew my message would seem offensive if I didn't specify it otherwise. I just mean a few oddballs told him that stuff, not everyone there.
But this is off topic and I just look like an idiot now.
 
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