War Trump says U.S. will designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists - Time for Mexico to get liberated

Trump says U.S. to designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists

U.S. President Donald Trump said he will designate Mexican drug cartels as terro...

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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. President Donald Trump said in an interview aired on Tuesday that he will designate Mexican drug cartels as terrorists over their role in drug and human trafficking.

“They will be designated ... I have been working on that for the last 90 days. You know, designation is not that easy, you have to go through a process, and we are well into that process,” Trump said in an interview with conservative media personality Bill O’Reilly that aired on Tuesday.

Once a group is designated as a terrorist organization, under U.S. law it is illegal for people in the United States to knowingly offer support and its members cannot enter the country and may be deported. Financial institutions that become aware they have funds connected to the group must block the money and alert the U.S. Treasury Department.

Mexico’s government did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

Mexico’s foreign minister, Marcelo Ebrard, said on Monday he did not expect the United States to make such a move.

Earlier this month, Trump, in a tweet, offered to help Mexico “wage WAR on the drug cartels and wipe them off the face of the earth.”

The proposal came after nine Americans were killed in an ambush in northern Mexico.

Mexican authorities said they may have been victims of mistaken identity amid confrontations among drug gangs in the area.

But the LeBaron extended family, members of a breakaway Mormon community that settled in northern Mexico decades ago, has often been in conflict with drug traffickers in Chihuahua and victims’ relatives said the killers must have known who they were targeting.

 

[XYZpdq]

If there's no cartels then who's going to have the money to pay for the Rush / Park apuestas matches?

 

[SherlockMexicano]

Look at Isis. Edit Did drugs make them what they were?

Certainly DRUGS made DRUG cartels what they are.

I am not denying gangs wouldn't exist, but DRUG cartels wouldnt be this big if America didn't give them around 150 billions of profit every year

Americans' Spending on Illicit Drugs Nears $150 Billion Annually; Appears to Rival What Is Spent on Alcohol

Spending on cannabis, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine by Americans reached nearly $150 billion in 2016, with a large proportion of spending coming from the small share of people who use drugs on a daily or near-daily basis.

www.rand.org

At least the police wouldn't have to deal with gangs richer than some countries.

 

[Rice Is Ready]

Those retarded mexicans literally had Chapos son in custody a few weeks ago and released him because the cartel said they were going to kill more soldiers.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Certainly DRUGS made DRUG cartels what they are.

I am not denying gangs wouldn't exist, but DRUG cartels wouldnt be this big if America didn't give them around 150 billions of profit every year

Americans' Spending on Illicit Drugs Nears $150 Billion Annually; Appears to Rival What Is Spent on Alcohol

Spending on cannabis, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine by Americans reached nearly $150 billion in 2016, with a large proportion of spending coming from the small share of people who use drugs on a daily or near-daily basis.

www.rand.org

At least the police wouldn't have to deal with gans richer than some countries.

I understand what you're saying. I'll try to rephrase it, if drug cartels as they are had a random thing where drugs just didn't exist, tomorrow. Would they still exist? Yes. They would just transition into the next profitable action.

A lot of people act as if drugs stop existing in this hypothetical, then drug cartels just dissipate, and that's really not the case. That's all I'm really saying.

 

[The best and greatest]

But wait...if the cartels are dealt with Mexico will become more stable, if Mexico becomes more stable less people will flee it, if less people flee Mexico to the US who will mow my damn lawn?

Move to Mexico now that its free of cartels?

 

[SherlockMexicano]

I understand what you're saying. I'll try to rephrase it, if drug cartels as they are had a random thing where drugs just didn't exist, tomorrow. Would they still exist? Yes. They would just transition into the next profitable action.

A lot of people act as if drugs stop existing in this hypothetical, then drug cartels just dissipate, and that's really not the case. That's all I'm really saying.

I still disagree.

I get your point that criminals would still be criminals, but they certainly wouldn't be as powerful. They earn billions of dollars each year from America alone. By some estimations 150 billion a year.

While your point is that criminals would still be criminals, mine is that even if that were criminals wouldn't be this powerful. None of their other bussiness comes as close to be as profitable.

Drugs aren't just a random thing. They are a huge bussiness that is so profitable it makes things worse.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

I get your point that criminals would still be criminals, but they certainly wouldn't be as powerful. They earn billions of dollars each year from America alone. By some estimations 150 billion a year.


While your point is that criminals would still be criminals, mine is that even if that were criminals wouldn't be this powerful. None of their other bussiness comes as close to be as profitable.

As quickly, I'd wager. It would just take patience and time to garner such power. I don't disagree drugs have made it a "corner cut." to their current empire/prowess on society/the world at large.

 

[The best and greatest]

I understand what you're saying. I'll try to rephrase it, if drug cartels as they are had a random thing where drugs just didn't exist, tomorrow. Would they still exist? Yes. They would just transition into the next profitable action.

A lot of people act as if drugs stop existing in this hypothetical, then drug cartels just dissipate, and that's really not the case. That's all I'm really saying.

Right. Thats why we need to take the sword to them and give them the ISIS treatment. You can't racketeer when you're dead.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

As quickly, I'd wager. It would just take patience and time to garner such power. I don't disagree drugs have made it a "corner cut." to their current empire/prowess on society/the world at large.

Disagree. There is no evidence that any other illegal bussines would give cartels that much power as they do now even challenge if they were " a little patient".

It's just irrealistic no other bussiness they participate in would give them that much money in one lifetime. I'ts not even close

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

There is no evidence that any other illegal bussines would give cartels that much power to even challenge the governement as they have now even if they were " a little patient".

If any criminal enterprise saves money or builds an empire is it not a threshold to gaining more power?

 

[mr.moon1488]

Anyone who supports the cartels in any capacity should be shot as traitors. Those animals are fucking vile and do nothing but wreak havoc.

Here's what's always amazed me. Throughout history, if you were some kind of raubritter, and you entered another nation's territory without permission, you'd most likely be executed on the spot. Common sense dictates that if you simply send someone back to their home country where they engaged in such behavior freely, that you're doing nothing but allowing for what would be a one-time problem to become a recurrent problem.

 

[SherlockMexicano]

If any criminal enterprise saves money or builds an empire is it not a threshold to gaining more power?

Again no other bussiness they participate would give them that much money as fast. Is not even close. Ther is no "threshold" to save given they want steady income.

If they could just save and quit we wouldn't have criminals in the first place.

 

[Mewtwo_Rain]

Again no other bussiness they participate would give them that much money as fast. Is not even close. Ther is no "threshold" to save given they want steady income.

If they could just save and quit we wouldn't have criminals in the first place.

I don't think you're reading what I said.

I never said anything would give them that much money as fast. Merely that they could build up to that power over time. Arab slave trade didn't exist within a day or a year or just 100 years.

There is no limit to how much power these organizations want. That's why they can slowly build it with or without drugs.

Drugs are a faster method IE: Corner cut.

I'm not even saying the organizations would gain that much power in a "few years." It could take quite a while biding their time and slowly expanding their power. Could they do it eventually, and the answer is yes.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE]

Despite the fucking impeachment and eternal harrassment from the chaos, god emperor shines bright and his aim is true and powerful.

 

[Coldgrip]

Deport the cartels to South America. They deserve it.

Edit:

Maybe Americans Mexicans shouldnt be such filthy and lazy druggies and the cartels wouldnt have the money and power they have but how typical of Americans Mexicans to not take responsibility for their own actions while expecting others to fix their problems for them.

Ftfy to make it more accurate. No need to thank my friend (or as they say in beanerese, el friendo) just doing my job as an American to remind you that Mexico's major problems will always stem from itself.

 

[mr.moon1488]

Certainly DRUGS made DRUG cartels what they are.

I am not denying gangs wouldn't exist, but DRUG cartels wouldnt be this big if America didn't give them around 150 billions of profit every year

Americans' Spending on Illicit Drugs Nears $150 Billion Annually; Appears to Rival What Is Spent on Alcohol

Spending on cannabis, cocaine, heroin and methamphetamine by Americans reached nearly $150 billion in 2016, with a large proportion of spending coming from the small share of people who use drugs on a daily or near-daily basis.

www.rand.org

At least the police wouldn't have to deal with gangs richer than some countries.

>SI! If those stupid young teens, and mentally ill people didn't buy our deliberately highly addictive drugs, then those kind gentlemen with face tattoos wouldn't be a major problem in the first place!

 

[XYZpdq]

if we take the narco trade at face value and don't read glow-in-the-dark into it, then yeah without drug trade they'd probably be up to something crooked but they also probably wouldn't have the operating budget to outspend the Mexican government

 

[Shmidty Werbenmanjenson]

Make cocaine legal AND engage in open narcotics warfare! WHY NOT BOTH?!

 

[Bum Driller]

I think the difference is that the Mafia, Russian Mafia, Triads, and Yakuza have a long history and certain traditions. They understand the importance of subtly and respectability. You don't become a centuries old organisation by acting like idiots. The cartels, on the other hand, are young and the only educated people involved are near the top. The foot soldiers are uneducated, poor, and angry. Given their first taste of power, they go crazy on it. Fear is the only thing they think works, so they maximise it, only thinking in the short term.

Anyway, here's hoping for a very kino war, everyone. If you live in the Southern US, good luck.

Yeah, no. Foot soldiers of all kinds of criminal enterprise are not the brightests people to begin with. The reason why other forms of organized crime are more "peaceful" has more to do with the fact that they base their operations in countries where the rule of law is actually so strong that their operations would cease quite fast if they acted like the mexican cartels.

 

[Shiversblood]

Invading, occupying, bombing, and using drone strikes against Mexico actually makes a lot more sense than invading Iraq ever did. Mexico is right on our back door. Mexico is connected to the USA on its bottom half. Mexico is a lot closer to the USA than Iraq is and thus presents a more immediate threat to the USA. If Mexicans are allowed to murder people with impunity in Mexico, they might start coming to the USA and start murdering people in the USA. We need to stop them now and fight them in Mexico before they come to the USA and start fighting us first.