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Horrorcow Zoe Quinn / Chelsea Van Valkenburg / Locke Valentine / @UnburntWitch / @Primeape / CrashOverride / Hat Box / Old Uncle Anime - Con Artist, Abuser, Sexual Harasser, Drove Alec Holowka to Suicide.
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Whew, careful there, Zoe... Wouldn't want that edge to be double sided, would we?
Honestly, I don't know if this rotten skunt has a conscience at this point. I think she's a wannabe serial killer who is so lazy that she just doesn't want to get her "hands wet". Bitch, it's called fucking wetwork for a reason, and even then, I had to do your fucking filthy ass work for you as a profiler. You suck ass as a criminal, Zoe. Hell, you suck so much, you probably think "pigs only say crime doesn't pay and it's gibberish", and this coming from the mouth of the dumbfuck who thinks calling people pine cones is a burn of an insult. For fuck's sake, you might as well have a shirt that says "I Killed Alec Holowka And Proud Of It" and share that on your Twitter and show it off to the world at your fellow dangerclowns. Speaking of which, are you friends with the clown from IT? I wouldn't be surprised, Zoe.
Don't mind me, I actually like getting angry as entertainment for some autistic reason. Plenty of you guys can attest to this. Carry on.
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Has anything actually happened to her as a result of any of this?
Absolved Mediocrity
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Despite her appearance of "failing upward" not much more than running a comic book division into the ground and subcontracting out to another one until her subpar performance there gets her dropped within a year or so...
But she's got inheritance now so she doesn't give a shit.
She's on the Cancel Council now as a Non-Binary with a chip implant....so edgy....
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If it's a big chain it goes back to the distribution center warehouses to be sold below cost to a shittier bookseller, like Books-A-Million or Sam's Club/Costco shelves. Hardcovers always make something back, even if it's at a loss. Paperbacks are different, their covers literally get ripped at the store level and the book is dumpstered, the covers are sent back to the publisher for a refund. It's pretty interesting that the paper isn't worth it's own weight to be soaked and pulped into a new book to me for softcover, but hardcovers are recouped in some way. Also the U.S. has more hardcovers and it's rarer in the UK/EU in general. Different consumer cultures and customs.
U.S. flow is usually "hardcover first for more money, paperback version published later if it's successful for the stingier but loyal readers." Crash Override didn't make it to paperback mode, sales were that dismal. Certain genres go straight to paperback, YA is common unless the publisher favors a particular author or series. CO is hardcover and digital/audio files only.
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From an accounting or legal perspective, I think you could argue bookstores come close to operating on something approaching a consignment basis. Publishers extend credit to bookstores, meaning the retailers lay out no shekels to get inventory. Bookstores then have an "unlimited right of return" WRT unsold inventory, meaning if nobody buys it, it gets sent back. Seems to me the de jure effect of all this is that all the risk of the ownership of inventory is in the hands of the publishers, not the bookstores. This practice was put in place in the USA during the Great Depression and has been with us since. They've tried to change it, (note that the link is from 200
but bookselling is such an unprofitable business that it would effectively kill most bookstores selling new books. To make them actually own their inventory, yes. 
So nothing has changed, and I doubt ever shall.As an aside, Thor Power Tool Co. v. Commissioner is a weird court case that whacked US publishers probably harder than any other group. Essentially, no inventory write-downs for tax purposes of salable inventory, meaning any copies of (say) the five or six books "authored" by intellectual powerhouse Snookie still on hand have to be carried at cost, even though at this point ain't nobody gonna buy them. Meaning publishers are much quicker to destroy unsold inventory or maybe sell it for pennies on the dollar to the Ollie's of the world than they were before this case. Also making it harder to order out of print books from bookstores, but there you have it.
Also, I've seen it claimed that Bill Clinton's recycled paper executive order killed the midlist and stuff like spinner racks with paperbacks in convenience stores. Not really sure I follow the logic here, but that's what some authors of a right wing bent claim. Apparently stuff like cheap Romance or Detective novels almost doubled in price once this took effect, or so these people claim. Possibly the only paper publishers could get was recycled, dunno.
Also, I've seen it claimed that Bill Clinton's recycled paper executive order killed the midlist and stuff like spinner racks with paperbacks in convenience stores. Not really sure I follow the logic here, but that's what some authors of a right wing bent claim. Apparently stuff like cheap Romance or Detective novels almost doubled in price once this took effect, or so these people claim. Possibly the only paper publishers could get was recycled, dunno.
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Thanks for the info. As an avid reader, it's good to know some of the ins and outs of the trade. I'm especially glad that those books likely didn't sell, which was something that had mildly concerned me for a time after I saw them all disappear. I know that doesn't really affect Chelsea's bottom line since she got paid in advance, but long-term I'm guessing the publisher isn't likely to order reprints due to poor sales, so her advance is probably all she's going to get off of "her" book.From an accounting or legal perspective, I think you could argue bookstores come close to operating on something approaching a consignment basis. Publishers extend credit to bookstores, meaning the retailers lay out no shekels to get inventory. Bookstores then have an "unlimited right of return" WRT unsold inventory, meaning if nobody buys it, it gets sent back. Seems to me the de jure effect of all this is that all the risk of the ownership of inventory is in the hands of the publishers, not the bookstores. This practice was put in place in the USA during the Great Depression and has been with us since. They've tried to change it, (note that the link is from 200
As an aside, Thor Power Tool Co. v. Commissioner is a weird court case that whacked US publishers probably harder than any other group. Essentially, no inventory write-downs for tax purposes of salable inventory, meaning any copies of (say) the five or six books "authored" by intellectual powerhouse Snookie still on hand have to be carried at cost, even though at this point ain't nobody gonna buy them. Meaning publishers are much quicker to destroy unsold inventory or maybe sell it for pennies on the dollar to the Ollie's of the world than they were before this case. Also making it harder to order out of print books from bookstores, but there you have it.
Also, I've seen it claimed that Bill Clinton's recycled paper executive order killed the midlist and stuff like spinner racks with paperbacks in convenience stores. Not really sure I follow the logic here, but that's what some authors of a right wing bent claim. Apparently stuff like cheap Romance or Detective novels almost doubled in price once this took effect, or so these people claim. Possibly the only paper publishers could get was recycled, dunno.
Glad to see that people are still holding Alec's suicide over her head, though. And she immediately follows up her tone-deaf tweet with an announcement of blocking everyone who told her that inconvenient truth. Couldn't happen to a worse person.
Chelsea's gone from indie scene darling to running a scam charity network to writing one-off comic books in about five years. 2020 isn't looking too bright if she keeps having a downward slide. What else is there to fall into at this point? I almost don't want to think about other things she could ruin before she finally washes out.
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Kathleen Kennedy is going to bring her on for some Disney+ exclusive grrl power shit with the Star Wars franchise, starting with Mandalorian Season 2 and Frozen 3.
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I kind of want to see her kill a franchise with woke backing.
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Literally nobody buys books from this absolutely worthless cunt.
Seriously, is this even open for debate?
Seriously, is this even open for debate?
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That's $5 more than I'd pay to do anything that involved her.
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Another path on the road to death for books no one needed is the Dollar Store. I'm gonna keep an eye out.
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We can only hope that her contract will not be renewed this time around. With all the problems of every movie after rogue one (i understand that film is somewhat contentious too, but it seemed to have an overall positive response), I don't think she will. Here's hoping anyway.
Enough star wars sperging.....I dislike Zoe to a very high degree and I hope when things do finally bite her, it goes down spectacularly
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I knew this was a thing, but was unclear on just how pervasive it was. I knew a few people who went down with the ship at the store level when Borders went bankrupt, and while none of them knew the precise details, Borders financial problems started with the superstores operating at a loss(one location I knew of had a $500K building rent every six months!) and the Waldenbooks carrying them on their backs after acquisition(they rebranded them to Borders Express locations: point is they operated at a more sustainable, profitable level), until they built up too much debt with the publishers somehow. Which was thought to be the corporate buyers getting woo'd into overstocking garbage that didn't sell after they got high on their own farts from Harry Potter and Twilight fever. Also Borders experimented with seasonal halloween stores and calendar kiosks, that probably didn't help. Barnes & Noble is partly propped up by being owned by the same people who own GameStop and a half-dozen other businesses like insurance companies, they apparently have a catalog of employee discounts with a bunch of weird, unrelated things.
I always thought it was interesting that Chelsea did a book tour to sign at a bunch of different locations; usually the only people who do it are local authors that already have some groundswell support for being a local author, or actual big stars that draw in customers from their gravitas. Chelsea was neither, and it obviously did nothing to help her sales considering how bad they were. Book signings bring in already existing fans, they don't generate new ones, lol
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I hope Zoe goes to Iran. Being the Islamic nation that they are, I hear they treat women and homosexuals very well there.
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You could give your fresh take on 5 different current events a day and people wouldn't forget you killed Alec, Chelsea. You don't care about anyone but yourself, why would anyone believe you give a single shit about sand people halfway around the world? TRUMP BAD, ISLAMIC GENERAL GOOD, HARTS N PAIRS FOR BAGHDAD AIRPORT IN CASE RAMI ISMAIL IS ON LAYOVER FOR US BOOTYCALL
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I guess she finally managed to successful blockbot all the haters.the replies are overwhelmingly supportive
Deathbringer sequel with a character named Holowka?
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I wondered why you only posted the opener tweet and not any replies, so I went and looked. And I got extremely mad on the internet.the replies are overwhelmingly supportive
Gwenpool's a shitty niche title but "here, throw your name on my shit! Marvel's door is open to you Zoe!" The other fag's a patreon webcomic of no import, but geez.
Also all those patronizing "I have all your books! I need more!" tweets. You fucking liars, post a photo. We know what the sales figures are.