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I think Eric is a good man, I really do. But god damn can he be naive.
 
2,000 People Stranded on a U.S. Cruise Ship Will Dock in Cambodia After 4 Countries Reject Entry Over Coronavirus Fears

BY JASMINE AGUILERA AND HILLARY LEUNG
UPDATED: FEBRUARY 12, 2020 10:55 AM ET | ORIGINALLY PUBLISHED: FEBRUARY 11, 2020

Roughly 2,000 passengers and crew aboard the Holland America Line Westerdam remain stranded on the open seas on Feb. 12, days after they were supposed to dock in Yokohama, Japan on Feb. 15. Fears of the novel coronavirus (now officially known as COVID-19) has prompted four different nations and the U.S. territory of Guam to deny them entry despite no one on board being diagnosed with the illness that has caused global panic. Now, the cruise line says, Cambodia has granted permission for the ship to dock on Feb. 13.
In a public statement, Holland America Line says the 2,257 passengers and crew members will be able to go ashore in Sihanoukville, Cambodia. The cruise line will transfer the passengers over the next few days via charter flights to Phnom Penh, and will pay for each person’s flights home.

The Westerdam is the latest cruise to be caught in the middle of the coronavirus outbreak. A virus-stricken ship has been under quarantine at the Yokohama Bay in Japan since Feb. 5. At least 174 people on board the Diamond Princess have tested positive for the coronavirus as of Wednesday.

Last week, passengers on a World Dream cruise in Hong Kong were held for four days after the company learned that three passengers who had sailed on the vessel earlier were confirmed to have the virus. All passengers were finally allowed to disembark on Monday after all crew tested negative for the virus.

After being denied entry into Japan, Guam, the Philippines and Taiwan, unnerved vacationers on the Westerdam were initially relieved when the cruise ship’s captain announced on Monday that they’d finally be disembarking in Bangkok, Thailand, on Feb. 13. But the ship was back in limbo after Thailand Public Health Minister Anutin Charnverakul shared on Facebook Monday afternoon that it would not be allowed to dock after all.

Globally, more than 45,000 people have been infected with the virus, and more than 1,100 have died as a result. A vast majority of cases have been in mainland China.

Full article here.
 
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Virus could actually have originated from pangolins. The "could" part is important to take with this because it's not published yet, but this particular article is from a very good source.

I really fucking hope it's from pangolins so people will stop eating these cute pinecones
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please, please be pangolins.
Fun fact: you can get leprosy from armadillos. So don't eat armadillos.
 
More seriously, in a sane country the army would have already had massive rebellions over the treatment of the populace (especially for soldiers from Wuhan), but this is China. The likely scenario for a citizen rebellion is the Chinese people zerg rushing an army base for supplies and beating every soldier to death. With the next likely scenario of China bombing the place and massacring the citizens.

Remember that the authoritarian regime soldiers whose job it is to murder ordinary people are usually also basically ordinary people too. So authoritarian regimes ultimately need to be able to convince ordinary people to kill other ordinary people every couple of generations, which is not easy to do especially if your army is of the same race and cultural background. If the system is obviously bullshit, then ordinary people will be more likely to simply refuse to kill for it, especially refusing to kill their own when they have legitimate grievances. It's like when the East Europeans and Russians started telling the commie goon squads to fuck off in the late 80s; they knew the goons probably weren't about to start shooting them. The Soviet Army was just about up to killing 14 Lithuanians in 1991, but this just caused more outrage elsewhere in the country and the regime was collapsing anyway by that point. And even the Tiananmen demonstrations in China in 1989 had lasted for 6 weeks before Deng Xiaoping's kill squad went in in the middle of the night; before that, the ordinary Chinese army soldiers were fraternising with Tiananmen protesters they were supposed to be intimidating and had to be withdrawn. Unfortunately for the Chinese demonstrators, the Chinese regime was younger and meaner than the Russian one at that point and there were still a few very mean old codgers around in positions of influence that remembered getting bombed by Chiang's air force while on the Long March with Mao and who would have seen shooting up a few thousand malcontents as a great bit of sport.

So while it's possible, I don't see a Chinese Zerg rush coming. For one thing, the contemporary Chinese is far too "modern" (i.e. selfish and cowardly) to be a part of a Zerg rush against any enemy, foreign or domestic. The society needs a period of stagnation where everyone knows that everyone knows the system is fucked and bullshit and needs to go. Then there'll be some event that gets people on the streets and they'll know, by that point, that the regime will not dare start gunning them down. This Corona virus event could well be the beginning of the end, though.

Once those are cut and the municipality or region is functioning independently, restablishing the previous tight control will be difficult.

Yeah, this. China is a big place (as the Chinese never tire of reminding you). And all those enclaves will probably end up faring dramatically differently too. There will also be plenty of stories of animosity between them; one that has already happened is that the city of Dali had commandeered a shipment of face masks destined for Chongqing (not sure if that got posted here yet). I imagine there'll be a lot more of shit like that once supplies start running lower. And once it all settles down, assuming it does, returning commie power may find itself compromised in at least some areas. I can't see a good political future for any commie cadres who quietly bugged out of their domains to wait it out in their ill-gotten townhouses in Vancouver.
 
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Fun fact: you can get leprosy from armadillos. So don't eat armadillos.
iirc they're crawling with it like how turtles have salmonella, there was a news story about a guy who had it for years from handling one
Armadillos are cute if you see them alive, like a big rat in a funny cheap dinosaur costume, but yeah don't touch them.
Pretty much all wild animals shouldn't be touched.
 
I came here to bear more horrifying news

Wuhan rans out of supplies

Chinese companies reopen only to halt again because one case found


-I would take this video with a grain of salt but the gist of it is : travel sanctions lifted in order for the chinese to go back to their workcages i mean work,so prepare for new china export : wu flu

-Some textile factories gotten direct government orders to stop what they are doing and start producing not protective gowns, not masks but guess this body bags :story: . I mean they have billion people to sacrifice to nurgle amirite ?( this is rumours btw)

-Some cities like shenzen and guangdo in the south already issued order to seize private property in the name of stopping the epidemic we all know how that shit is going to play out

- The anti-epidemic team doesn’t include any epidemic prevention experts but includes propaganda and security experts :story:

And even more beyond parody news

dicussion about how america cant produce shit not even aspirin and has one surgical masks factory,china has cornered the pharmaceutical market so good that noone not even europe and india, can produce medicine without chinese producedcomponents everyone knows this and nobody gives a shit even they managed to poison hundreds of people at one time and get away with it.


I need a fucking drink or bleach or jesus or something

Aditional reading


Chinese Officials Authorized to Seize Personal Property to Counter Deepening Coronavirus Crisis

Coronavirus 'could infect 60% of global population if unchecked'



China Orders Public Transportation, Businesses to Reopen Following Coronavirus Outbreak

US Needs to Reduce Dependence on Chinese Drug Supplies, Says White House Trade Advisor
 
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I always thought IQ tests were kind of bullshit on this alone. Asians have the highest IQ in the world but independent thinking doesn't seem to be a factor in regards to high intelligence in those tests. I know IQ tests are for the most part accurate (The Bell Curve makes a valid point) but these people literally use shit water to make oil. I'm sure there are certain Hispanic and African countries who aren't as stupid as this (though I could be wrong). You'd think basic sanitary knowledge would be an important factor in finding out if someone is stupid or not. Peasants at least in the middle ages had the excuse that they didn't even know what germs were. But how can you be aware of how badly germs and pollution are and STILL cook your street food with a thousand wasps buzzing around and not care???

Apparently there are also restaurants in China where there are pigs underneath the building and they make holes in the floor for customers to poop in and the pigs eat the poop. Then they kill the pigs to serve to the customer. What the flying fuck.

Asian Americans do well because Asian immigrants tend to be middle class. They also have support networks like churches and temples. More importantly, they had a culture where you can study hard to join the ranks of a scholarly caste.

Asian cultures are top down and this stunts initiative, innovation and self discipline. They hate warriors and merchants due to Confucianism so their governments bloat really quickly.

More importantly, they acquire their morals from society while the West emphasizes individual virtue. This cripples social change.
 
So while it's possible, I don't see a Chinese Zerg rush coming. For one thing, the contemporary Chinese is far too "modern" (i.e. selfish and cowardly) to be a part of a Zerg rush against any enemy, foreign or domestic. The society needs a period of stagnation where everyone knows that everyone knows the system is fucked and bullshit and needs to go. Then there'll be some event that gets people on the streets and they'll know, by that point, that the regime will not dare start gunning them down. This Corona virus event could well be the beginning of the end, though.
I don't mean zerg rush as an organized movement, but an unorganized human wave of violence going towards the places it will see as full of resources (either rich people districts or military base). Get people hungry and desperate enough and it's a simple question of a quick death via bullet or a long death by starving.

Asian Americans do well because Asian immigrants tend to be middle class. They also have support networks like churches and temples. More importantly, they had a culture where you can study hard to join the ranks of a scholarly caste.

Asian cultures are top down and this stunts initiative, innovation and self discipline. They hate warriors and merchants due to Confucianism so their governments bloat really quickly.

More importantly, they acquire their morals from society while the West emphasizes individual virtue. This cripples social change.
In the case of Asians Americans there is probably a survivor bias. The smartest were the people who knew it was good time to leave.
 
Always interesting to see the shill lines taken in normie comments sections.

"Send gibs!"
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This shill may be new to the job as he posted two variants of the same message twice, one after the other. Shamefur dispray.

"China is actually doing a great job!"
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Looks like this shill has been stung by the "soulless" meme. Also uses the "China has a lot of people, unlike little Britain, and therefore you are wrong" China-sized brain argument.

"Only China has the true facts!"
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Seems that the FT is not fake enough fake news for China.

"It's no worse than the flu!"
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So they're still going with that one. The other shill underneath has the great take that you can plan to go to China without a vaccination, but you should get one before you visit the US.

"Here are some more stats about lots of people dying from things that are not the Coronavirus"
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Interesting how embarrassing stats about Chinese dying in road accidents and immediately becoming /pol/ webms are now being promoted by shills to prove how not-serious the Coronavirus is.
What's this dude smoking? Hitherto unknown virus? It's a coronavirus, they're everywhere and pretty well understood.

China apologists are pretty wierd.
 
Britain is fucked. And is the uncontrolled breach into the Western World. Corona-Chan is already embedded in her Health Car industry and providers. Plus it was just injected into their prison population. Why the fuck would you extradite some twit from Thailand right now? The famed British NIH is about to be tested. Multiple Health Care workers in the UK are now the carriers/spreaders.
If you read the article above properly, you would have seen the guy transferred back from Thailand has been found not to have danced with Corona-Chan.
For the rest of it, especially in regards to Britain, yeah us Brits probably are already fucked. Especially those of us living it up on the south coast and having regular contact with medical professionals.
So it was nice knowing you all.
And Mr Purr you are awesome and very cute but I don't think you have a hope in hell of saving some of us...
 
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