Jazz thinking he‘s warranted to borrow his sister’s uterus, regardless of her feelings on the situation is what keeps me from completely feeling sorry for his plight.
It pisses me off but I'm not blaming Jazz too much. It's what Jeanette most likely brainwashed him into wanting without doing her research (like usual). I'd be more pissy and eager to gang up on Jazz if it was years down the line and Jeanette has kicked the bucket. If he's still after Ari then, I'll be ready to call him a complete irredeemable asshole. Right now though, Jazz is still Jeanette's puppet and any bad or selfish behavior on his end is 100% due to him being stuck in her clutches to be manipulated 24/7.
Realistically, I don't think Jazz would really want a kid way down the line. It pisses me off that he feels entitled to Ari's baby but a baby causes MASSIVE amounts of stress even for normal people. Jazz can't handle being told no or people disagreeing with him. A crying infant is beyond his coping ability, especially when he can't even take care of himself.
When or if the time comes, however, Ari has every right to tell Jazz to fuck off. And even if she were to commit the completely selfless act of giving Jazz her kid, she better be prepared for when he inevitably gives it back to her due to the stress.
Jazz will have a baby when the current euphoria he still feels about "being a girl" fades away. Being trans is about being validated by other people. It's about putting up a credible performance of gender. Like some twisted Schrodinger: you can only be a real trans when you perform and someone says "you're trans". Once all t hat feeling is over, Jazz will need to step up to make others call him a woman and up his game: having a baby.
I know I shill Ari and the twins a lot here and sorry if it gets annoying. But it truly does bother me, especially when all three of them seem to have turned into fine young adults with promising futures. They deserve a day in the sun and seeing their own mother constantly ignore them or undermine their accomplishments to focus on Jazz really pisses me off. Pitting siblings against each other can cause some serious ripple effects later in life and I would not be surprised if at least one of the siblings cuts contact off with Jazz completely once the cameras stop rolling.
To make things even worse, it hurts ALL parties. Ari and the twins will most likely have mommy issues for the rest of their lives and Jazz will lose valuable emotional resources once his parents die. He will virtually be completely alone with a lost childhood and a bleak sexless future.
And even after all that favoritism, what does Jazz have to show for it? He's childish, spoiled, whiny, and can't relate to things on an adult level. He has nothing going for him and is too stunted from hormones to progress in a positive way the older he gets. Was favoring and pampering him worth neglecting the other kids?
The elder three kids being largely ignored by Jeanette and not in her hyper-focused munchie laser sights is probably the best thing for them in the long run. People can recover from emotional neglect or narc parents; no one recovers from troonery, at least not to the degree of Jazz.
After being on puberty blockers, Jazz is now in a perpetual state of childhood. He'll watch as his siblings and peers grow up and move on with their lives. Thanks to his insane mother, he'll never have that option and will be left behind, mutilated and bitter. I'd love to be wrong, but I can't honestly see any other way forward for him.
Jazz will be unemployable even if he graduates from Harvard, because Harvard will just hand him a bogus degree in troonism or some similar shit. He has nothing close to the intellect and work ethic it takes to really succeed at an Ivy League institution, but as others have pointed out, Harvard will hand him a degree to save face. That is, if Jazz ever actually enrolls. Jazz has all those dumb fake panic attacks when people express opinions that don't agree with his, but he is right to be panicking about Harvard because he won't be able to cut it there.
Jazz will probably end up with a career as an inspirational speaker for some tranny charity, but will secretly be on a pharmaceutical company's payroll as a paid shill, using his speaking engagements to manipulate parents into signing their kids up for $30,000 Lupron implants and $450,000 genital surgeries.
Or he might be able to suck the reality TV tit awhile longer. He could turn his search for a rent-a-womb into a TV show. It could be like American Idol with the public calling in votes to eliminate a hopeful each week, until a group of fame-seeking contestants gets whittled down to one lucky winner. Or maybe Jazz could be the next Bachelor. Or Bachelorette? His life really is turning out to be such a horrifying train wreck that people would tune in just for the cringe of it all.
Women have children therefore Jazz must have them too.
Jazz thinking he‘s warranted to borrow his sister’s uterus, regardless of her feelings on the situation is what keeps me from completely feeling sorry for his plight.
can you imagine this perma-child trying to raise a kid when he doesn't possess decision making skills and can't even shove a dilator in his surgically cursed hole?
Jazz' lack of adult thinking will force her to behave like an adult by imitation, just like she now tries to imitate being a girl.
"Adults do this, so I'll have to do this".
He already talks about having sex like a task he has to do in order to be an actual individual. Besides movies, have you ever met anyone saying "yes, I have to have sex now" like it's a mission in the way Jazz does? It's gonna be extra tragic when he has enough freedom to actually have sex. Not only will be disappointing that his "vagina" doesn't work and he feels zero pleasure, but it's gonna be worse when his partner asks him to do anal instead because such "vagina" looks like it's about to fall off (and probably will).
Jazz' lack of adult thinking will force her to behave like an adult by imitation, just like she now tries to imitate being a girl.
"Adults do this, so I'll have to do this".
He already talks about having sex like a task he has to do in order to be an actual individual. Besides movies, have you ever met anyone saying "yes, I have to have sex now" like it's a mission in the way Jazz does? It's gonna be extra tragic when he has enough freedom to actually have sex. Not only will be disappointing that his "vagina" doesn't work and he feels zero pleasure, but it's gonna be worse when his partner asks him to do anal instead because such "vagina" looks like it's about to fall off (and probably will).
Brides in middle eastern countries where it's excruciating due to their genitals being chopped up and sewn shut (I didn't walk into that one expecting a metaphor). Jesus Christ, it almost sounds like Jazz hasn't matured past a two-year-old-ish sense "I want a baby because women have babies" (shockingly similar to, if not exactly like how a two year old is unable to tell that a baby is, technically, its own living person, who will if all goes well, grow up with their own thoughts and desires, not an inanimate object for you to project onto and something you "have to have" (outside of primitive biological drive, that is). (We can sit here all day and argue about natalism, of course.)
... Though combined with his stunted brain (which honestly seems closer to 8, in that respect), I suppose I can't blame him for thinking that way, considering his entire life he's been puppeteered and projected onto by a severe narcissist who only understands her own wants, straight up to raising her son as a girl, going so far as to inhibiting his puberty and mutilating his genitals, and teaching him this was a good thing. No wonder he thinks it's a normal fucking way to think.
Brides in middle eastern countries where it's excruciating due to their genitals being chopped up and sewn shut (I didn't walk into that one expecting a metaphor). Jesus Christ, it almost sounds like Jazz hasn't matured past a two-year-old-ish sense "I want a baby because women have babies" (shockingly similar to, if not exactly like how a two year old is unable to tell that a baby is, technically, its own living person, who will if all goes well, grow up with their own thoughts and desires, not an inanimate object for you to project onto and something you "have to have" (outside of primitive biological drive, that is). (We can sit here all day and argue about natalism, of course.)
Where would he have ever learned otherwise? That's exactly how his vile cunt of a mom treats him, as an object to fulfill her own desires. And his dad is a nothing, a cucked nonentity who might as well not even be there.
He may be pretty despicable but he's had no model for normality.
Random speculation: Florida University isn’t an option for Jazz, even though it’s closer to Jeanette’s monstrous claws, is because normal, unspecial Ari went there. That’s much too mundane for Jazz! Harvard was probably the first prestigious thing to pop into her lizard brain and she stuck with it.
Only Jazz doesn't seem enthused about Harvard at all - he's acting like getting into Harvard is this horrible thing that's happened and now it's in the way of him following 'his true path' at Pomona (he stumbled on it google searching and "just knew it in his stomach" that Pomona was perfect for him - of course, it's also about as far away from Jeanette and Florida as he can get.)
It also doesn't make sense to me that he (seemingly) only applied to two colleges, Harvard and Pomona. Maybe he applied to a whole bunch and they've dumbed it down to the two he actually got into for the show, but my understanding has always been that unless you're a legacy, there are more 'perfect applicants' than there are places in the Ivies... so if you think you've got the goods for Harvard, it only makes sense that you'd also apply for Yale and Princeton and Cornell etc, and then (depending on your $) your 'second tier' is likely going to be either a smaller liberal arts college (Vasser, Amherst, Pomona), a 'brand-name' private (MIT, Stanford, USC), a top-ranked out-of-state public (UC Berkeley, UCLA), or the best public college you have in-state... and if you do realistically have a shot at Harvard, I think you could reasonably call UF or FSU (which are both still decent colleges that reject plenty of applicants) your "safety schools."
To me it makes no sense that he applied to THE big deal snow-state Ivy and a tiny sun-state liberal arts college, both ludicrously exclusive - i.e. even a very strong applicant could easily get into neither school - and then said 'I'm good.' If Harvard wasn't just a moonshot, then surely Yale and Stanford (sun!) would be on your applications list, if it's the reputation and worldwide name recognition that matters? Or if he really wanted the small private liberal arts college experience, what stopped him applying to Vassar (besides the weather - which is no worse than Harvard's - to me Vassar would be Jazz's spiritual home, it's like every undergrad there was the 'misunderstood' unique and creative kid at their high school, pronouns and safe spaces are all the rage, and from what I'm told the majority of the guys there now that it's co-ed are gay or 'flexible'... yes, added bonus, it was historically a women's college! - but also why stop there? Wellesley and Barnard are both super-exclusive, small liberal arts colleges that are still women's colleges but accept 'trans women,' do we really believe Jazz did not apply for any (current-day) women's colleges? Also, (especially given his ongoing medical 'needs') he apparently also didn't apply for a single home-in-Florida option at all - or any of the liberal arts colleges in NY state (again, Vassar!) where his 'expert medical team' is based. And no UCLA/USC either, which are very used to accomodating 'Hollywood' kids...
A note for everyone saying Jazz could never cut it at Harvard... Pomona is by no means a walk in the park! Pomona is the #1 liberal arts college in terms of "money spent on the average four-year-student's degree completion," it's over $300k, three times the average spent by all four-year non-profits; and that's mostly money spent by the school, which has a massive endowment of over $2.4 billion, the 7th highest per student of any college in the US. (It only has around 1500-1600 undergrad students total - i.e. it enrols about 400 students per academic year - compared to Harvard with 6,800 undergrads and about 15,000 postgrads.) It also seems like an odd choice for Jazz for a bunch of reasons - he's a privileged 'white' (apparently) child of two college grads who I'm fairly sure will not be needing financial aid, while Pomona is focused on giving opportunities to a very diverse student body - (from wikipedia) For the 2018–2019 admissions cycle, Pomona College accepted 780 students (412 actually enrolled) from a pool of 10,245 applicants (a 7.6% overall acceptance rate). Fifty-seven percent of the admitted students were domestic students of color, 11.3% were international students, and 19.2% were first-generation college students.
For the 2018–2019 school year, Pomona charged a sticker price (tuition, room and board, and associated fees) of $69,496. Over $50 million in need-based scholarships was awarded in 2018. Fifty-seven percent of students received a financial aid package, with an average award of $55,390. Eighty-nine international students, representing 47% of all international students enrolled at the college, received an average financial aid award of $59,477. The college was named 1st in the 2017 Edition of the Princeton Review for "Best Financial Aid".
Twenty-two percent of Pomona College students qualify for Pell Grants, a federal financial aid grant reserved for domestic students of the neediest backgrounds. A 2017 review among top 50 LACs (as ranked by US News & World Report) identified Pomona as having the third highest Pell population as a percent of the first year class. According to a 2018 report by Third Way, Pomona was one of five colleges or universities (among 1566 analyzed) to graduate 100% of Pell Grant recipients within six years, considerably above the national graduation rate of this group at 51%.
TL, DR; Jazz is going to be in a tiny class of mostly minority and/or low-income and/or first-generation (and clearly very bright and highly-motivated students, to get a place at such an exclusive school) who know college success is do or die for them, and Pomona has a history of giving them every opportunity to level up - 59% of students stay to work on research projects over at least one summer and during the school year, and most also complete killer internships with top companies internationally during their summer breaks (by graduation, 89% of Pomona students have completed at least one internship experience; 70% have completed two or more - the college picks up the tab for travel and to pay their interns) and 49% of students also manage to find the time to study abroad.
And these kids ain't no slouches. The 10 most popular declared majors for Fall 2018, in order, were: Economics (118 students), Computer Science (91), Mathematics (67), Neuroscience (58 ), Politics (42), International Relations (41), Public Policy Analysis (41), Molecular Biology (39), Media Studies - ok, some slouches (38 ) and Psychology (32). The most popular major for Class of 2018 graduates was Economics, and approximately 15% of them also graduated with a second major. Engineering is available in partnership with the California Institute of Technology and Dartmouth; Pomona is also a partner school with Harvard Business School, and students can also get teaching credentials through partnerships with other nearby schools. I'm not seeing Jazz's "I'd like to study, like, paranormal things and psychics and past lives," but maybe he can do that with the 'design your own major' option... or not.
This tiny school is third only to Stanford and UCLA for Rhodes Scholarships in CA, and within 10 years, 83% of Pomona graduates attend graduate and/or professional school. Examples of destinations for students in the Class of 2017 immediately following graduation included Cambridge, Stanford, Cornell, Yale, Harvard, and Columbia. Among Pomona applicants applying to medical school in the 2018 cycle, the percent accepted stood at 85%, more than twice the national average of 32%. A 2016 study by College Transitions listed Pomona as among the 20 best colleges and universities for sending students to the top-ranked medical, business, and law schools per capita, as analyzed by LinkedIn profiles of alumni. Pomona ranks 12th among all colleges and universities for graduates receiving doctoral degrees on a size adjusted basis from 2006–2015, as well as 12th among those receiving STEM doctoral degrees alone.
Jazz is fucked. Go to Harvard, kid! You're spoiled and lazy. You don't have the work ethic you're going to need to succeed at Pomona. You only have a vague idea of what you're even interested in in terms of study and a future career... you know you aren't going to be jumping in there vying for competitive research assistant spots or exhausting full-time internships over your summers... I'm guessing you'll major in media studies and write a thesis about yourself. I'm a qualified psychologist. Please don't think "ooh, psychology, I'll be the trans psychologist helping other kids find their true selves," because no one (responsible) is going to help you get into the grad programs you'd need to actually qualify to practice...
And 400 kids in your year. That's less than some high school classes. And you're all living together, and going to class together, and hanging on campus together for four years at least... the dream is you find "your people" and you're part of this little club for life, but what if you don't fit in, Florida reality TV rich kid among (mostly) hard-working strivers from distinctly un-privileged backgrounds? What if all these super-students who are POC, international students, first-to-college, and dependent on grants and financial aid can't relate to your endless tantrums and 'anxiety attacks' and you eventually find yourself very much on the fringes of your graduating class? Wouldn't it be better to go to Harvard, where you'll be one of 20,000+ students instead of one of 1600, and you'll hopefully have a lot more chances to find your people (and if you don't, to just walk around campus without everyone knowing how you're doing - especially if it's not great - and gossiping behind your back as small groups tend to do?)
If I was Jazz I'd pick Harvard. Pomona actually sounds like a great school with oodles of opportunity for students who are real go-getters, but... that doesn't really describe our Jazz.
Neither did the other kids but they seem to be doing okay. The factor at play is Jeanette. It's one thing to have a weak dad with no balls or authority but Jeanette is something else. The show has shown how she is in casual mom-mode. She makes every event about her, spews crocodile tears whenever she isn't being catered to, manipulates conversations, pushes her kids into shit they don't want to do, and acts passive aggressive whenever they rebel against her.
The way she reacted to Jazz's conversation in the car about colleges was crucial because it shows peak narc qualities. Jazz is literally crying and telling his mom that he doesn't want to disappoint her and she has next to no reaction other than to guilt him for wanting Pomona. Normal parents would tell their kids that they would always be proud of them and then explain their reasoning for wanting to steer them towards certain colleges. But Jeanette doesn't give, nor does she offer Jazz useful advice. Remember that time she was lecturing Jazz about therapy? She escalates the emotions behind the situation until Jazz screams at her. Yeah, Jazz is in full brat mode there but Jeanette refuses to let anything go. She is a lot like Susan Schofield in that she can sound pretty manic at times with her constantly being on everyone's case on what she wants or expects.
I do feel sorry for Jazz about the college situation because he really does know he doesn't want to go to Harvard, wouldn't do well in Harvard, and he's trying his best with his limited emotional resources to express this, but no one around him gives a fuck and is just trying to shut him down. The fact that even he can recognize that the high pressure and competitive environment would probably cause him to become severely depressed is the most mature, self-aware, and self-respecting thought he's had in his entire life and everyone around him is trying their best to guilt and pressure him until it's dead.
Isn't Harvard ultra progressive now? Jazz can do more for Harvard's image than whatever Harvard can do for him.
I doubt Jazz applied to any college on his own. Doesn't look like that's something in his mind. I dunno how college system works in US, but makes sense Harvard approached this family rather than he/they approached them. Jeanette's insistence on Jazz going to Harvard could be due to her stupid standards as well as having an already arranged agreement with them.
Remember, Jazz still wants Ari's baby and will most likely throw a MASSIVE tantrum when Ari inevitably refuses to give up her own child. This scenario is the highest likely catalyst for Ari getting the fuck out of this family for good as I cannot imagine anyone with brains giving their child to someone as unstable and childish as Jazz.
It really seems like the ari-as-a-surrogate ideal is what jeannette had to tell herself to sleep at night, once she found out that the transition drugs cause sterility. Neither jazz or ari were really mature enough to have a clue about if either of them wanted kids, much less wanted to have or be a surrogate. It is a weird adult concern projected onto children. I don't think jazz will want a baby for various reasons, but mostly because he doesn't seem capable of maturing enough to want them.
Neither did the other kids but they seem to be doing okay. The factor at play is Jeanette. It's one thing to have a weak dad with no balls or authority but Jeanette is something else. The show has shown how she is in casual mom-mode. She makes every event about her, spews crocodile tears whenever she isn't being catered to, manipulates conversations, pushes her kids into shit they don't want to do, and acts passive aggressive whenever they rebel against her.
I don't think the other kids are okay, their hurt is just less visible because it is caused by neglect. That is the curse of these families, all the children want the praise and attention of the narcissistic parent. but whatever child gets it is actively damaged by it. No one is unscathed. The terminology used is generally that the favored child is called the golden child, and one other kid is a scapegoat for the family's problems, with remaining kids being neglected along with the scapegoat. The kids who aren't favored have a different set of issues, most of them struggle to take care of themselves and tend to get sucked into relationships with people as narcissistic as the parent due to low self esteem & a sense of familiarity.
I wonder if it's ever crossed Jazz's mind that slacking off during Harvard (Just getting a gender studies degree and doing the bare minimum) would potentially work. Is Harvard really going to allow Jazz to fail? Being as progressive as they are, would it really help their narrative if Jazz is doing poorly in their school? Would they potentially do anything in their power to make sure Jazz succeeds? I can see them doing this - they fucking accepted Jazz into their college after all.
No gender studies teacher is ever going to dare mark something against Jazz if he suddenly has a panic attack in class one day. He's the damn poster child of the gender studies movement.
Can anyone else see this backdoor fuckery being a possibility? I see post after post about how hard Harvard is and how out of his league Jazz will be if he goes there, but we never take into account that Jazz failing in Harvard is something Harvard can probably not afford as well.
Even if he doesn't fail academically, I don't view Jazz succeeding socially. Normal hard-working students will hate him getting in through shady wokepoint means. Hardcore academics will be put off by his stunted childish behavior and bratty attitude. Clubs will be reluctant to include him based on his ability to take up all the attention, thus eliminating the value of a community. His roommates will likely resent him and be grossed out by having to watch constant dilation/Jeanette coming to visit. Any LGBT organization or gender studies program he joins will probably turn on him because the people in those areas are NEVER happy and won't tolerate the slightest bit of non-cult mentality, always trying to prove who is the biggest victim.
In a nutshell, Jazz won't fit in anywhere. He doesn't have enough positive or unique individual attributes to allow him to just make friends. He freaks out at EVERYTHING and fails at having the thick skin needed for rejection. It's going to be brutal.
But heres the thing - I'd normally agree, but Jazz isn't some random troon. He's one of the most famous troons in the country who has his own TV show.
Normal kids going to Harvard are obviously going to dislike like him, but the LGBT community there? I don't see how they could ever be in the position of being more powerful than Jazz and demanding shit from him. Jazz has a BIG Twitter support group and the LGBT Community already love him to bits.
I can see them being disgusting pieces of shit in a way Jeanette is to him, but I don't know if they can afford to be on Jazz's bad side. He already has a strong base around him. It's going to be all fake smiles and shit, sure, but I think even the LGBT community at Harvard know Jazz is going to be a precious protected diamond they in no way can fuck with, so will need to play nice even if their minds scream DESTROY every time they see him.
Can anyone else see this backdoor fuckery being a possibility? I see post after post about how hard Harvard is and how out of his league Jazz will be if he goes there, but we never take into account that Jazz failing in Harvard is something Harvard can probably not afford as well.
This is the deal with Harvard. It isn't a university, or it is, but that isn't the major thing about it. It's a huge social club, and if you're in it, you get to cash in on it for the rest of your life. You can just refer to the fact you went there. Someone I knew who went there called it "dropping the H bomb." You don't have to be this blatantly douchey about it, though. You have connections.
You can fuck it all up afterwards. It's not magic.
But if you get admitted to Harvard, they're invested in you because it's a big club, and you're now in it, and they're not going to do anything to fuck that up because it fucks up their brand. They're certainly not going to fuck up a troon who is one of the premier products of the social experiments the elites are running.
