Akilah Hughes v. Carl Benjamin (2017)

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I mean, I realize her attorney has to come up with some sort of defense, but they can't possibly think "he doesn't need the money" is actually an argument the court will buy into. Making the plaintiff pay attorney's fees isn't just to help the defendant, it's to teach the plaintiff a lesson about filing dumb lawsuits.
Why do GFMs make opposing parties shit out idiotic arguments? Happened with Vic Mignogna, it's happening here.
 
Why do GFMs make opposing parties shit out idiotic arguments? Happened with Vic Mignogna, it's happening here.

Because whatever it is, no matter how stupid, it probably hasn't been decided so there's no previous case on point. And maybe you get a boomer judge who can be convinced that scary Internet thing bad.
 
Three new documents and accompanying exhibits. Part of Akilah's argument for why she shouldn't have to pay Sargon's legal fees is because he had a GoFundMe.
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people still win fees if they have lawsuit insurance right? people still win fees if someone else is funding a lawsuit right? How is that any different?

Akilah said the people who donated to Sargon's GoFundMe were sweaty neckbeards less than a month ago and now she wants them to pay her tab?

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She submitted a screen shot of comments about her and that's supposed to get her off the hook. Does this look like someone who argued in good faith?

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oh you poor unfortunate bitch. You dug your own grave with those tweets and you expect that to excuse you from having to pay for your frivolous lawsuit

Why do GFMs make opposing parties shit out idiotic arguments? Happened with Vic Mignogna, it's happening here.
probably because its public. I bet if people found out how many third parties funded lawsuits theyd pitch a fit too.
 
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I mean, I realize her attorney has to come up with some sort of defense, but they can't possibly think "he doesn't need the money" is actually an argument the court will buy into. Making the plaintiff pay attorney's fees isn't just to help the defendant, it's to teach the plaintiff a lesson about filing dumb lawsuits.

Sounds like she needs some Sanctions slapped on top.

Those comments on Twitter alone show bad faith, never mind bringing suit after a judge said there wasn’t a case.

Why do GFMs make opposing parties shit out idiotic arguments? Happened with Vic Mignogna, it's happening here.

I think it’s less about the money, and more because it crystallises their support. It puts a number to it, and NPCs can’t handle it.
 
people still win fees if they have lawsuit insurance right? people still win fees if someone else is funding a lawsuit right? How is that any different?

Yes, and even more importantly, it is generally inadmissible that the defendant has insurance so it doesn't prejudice the jury's decision. It's irrelevant and immaterial and even if it isn't, is often considered presumptively prejudicial. I don't see why the defendant in this case having some collateral source of covering the defense is remotely relevant. The harm is having to defend an objectively unreasonable lawsuit at all.

It's like saying you shouldn't have to pay for running over someone's dog because their mom bought them another.
 
Because whatever it is, no matter how stupid, it probably hasn't been decided so there's no previous case on point. And maybe you get a boomer judge who can be convinced that scary Internet thing bad.

I think it's more of the concept of having other people pay for your lawsuits. If you look at it like this, people complained about Peter Thiel paying for Hulk Hogan's lawsuit, people complained about a GFM for Vic's lawsuit, and many (myself included) complained about Quarterpounder using GFM to pay for his lawsuit. The idea behind it is if you want to file a lawsuit then you should put up your own money, since it's not guaranteed you'll win. There should be some risk versus reward factor, and crowdfunding the lawsuit you want to bring kind of defeats that concept. On the face of it I'm being hypocritical, though, because I personally despised the fact Jeremy had crowdfunded his lawsuit against the crossdresser that hit him because I saw him as a weak bitch, but also the fact he's admitted before he won't file a lawsuit because he doesn't want to risk his own money (the Magic fiasco where he lost his entire online collection), but I had no problems with Hulk or Vic getting help to file their lawsuits because I think it's a just cause. People aren't as hostile to the idea of defendants crowdfunding the lawsuit because they're not the ones who brought the lawsuit in the first place. It's a weird dichotomy.
 
The GFM angle is irrelevant, she sunk her own chances when she bragged online about how she's going to bankrupt Carl "Carny Barker" Benjamin and get him run off social media with her suit.... it's obvious the whole reason for it was a dual cash-grab and silencing of political opponents she didn't like.

SHe can't just walk it back with "Oh that was just excited banter" when there's a chain of letters from lawyers to her telling her "You won't win this and we intend to reclaim costs to litigate your frivolous proposition" and her response was to go on the internet and sperg out about how mean man needs punished for daring to defy her,.

The dumb SJW bitch is about to get what she fuckin' deserves: learning that the real world doesn't play by cry-bullying progressive-stack rules, and I don't find it hard to believe that a Judge wouldn't agree that making her pay would further the cause of making people think twice about bringing bad faith lawsuits for hurt fee-fees and thinking they'll win big because the defendant is a conservative white male.
 
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I think it's more of the concept of having other people pay for your lawsuits. If you look at it like this, people complained about Peter Thiel paying for Hulk Hogan's lawsuit, people complained about a GFM for Vic's lawsuit, and many (myself included) complained about Quarterpounder using GFM to pay for his lawsuit.

And it's completely irrelevant to the merits of the lawsuit, as is the fact that the attorney is being paid off the proceeds of a personal injury lawsuit, or that the defendant has insurance.
 
And it's completely irrelevant to the merits of the lawsuit, as is the fact that the attorney is being paid off the proceeds of a personal injury lawsuit, or that the defendant has insurance.
The only relevance would be if an investor funded the suit in exchange for a portion of the proceeds. That's called champerty and it's illegal. It's also not what happened here.
 
The only relevance would be if an investor funded the suit in exchange for a portion of the proceeds. That's called champerty and it's illegal. It's also not what happened here.

Contingency fee agreements have made champerty more or less obsolete even in the few jurisdictions where it exists at all and hasn't been outright abolished. So long as it isn't directly and explicitly made a champertous contract, it's not going to be anything most litigants need be concerned with.

Also so far as I know it doesn't even apply in federal court to copyright, trademark and patent actions, because there are lots of companies that just straight up fund IP lawsuits in return for a cut of the proceeds.

It's irrelevant to this case, which is a classic defense fund situation.
 
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Ok so after being told by a judge she has no case she decides to attempt to settle for more that what it would cost for Carl to just continue fighting...

Like what was even the fucking plan there? "Hey we lost the war, should we surrender? No tell them to surrender!"

Whatever lawyer went along with this should be personally sanctioned along with the dumb whore, because she's a dumb whore, but the lawyer should have known better.
 
Akilah Saidah Kamaria Hughes. Quite the name. She is very handsome with the natural hair.

Interesting that she used 'kiwirabbit' as a handle back in the day, @kiwirabbitfru on Twitter, wonder what explains that.

I would like to know more about the $40k that she raised for liver surgery/lyme disease/self care.
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In her own book, she says that the tumor she had removed were benign.
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But I guess it was making her feel fatter. So, the best possible use of everyone's money was to help her lose weight.
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https://archive.li/ok1dY
I like that she moved coasts because she felt the selfie light would be better in California, too.
 
Ok so after being told by a judge she has no case she decides to attempt to settle for more that what it would cost for Carl to just continue fighting...

Like what was even the fucking plan there? "Hey we lost the war, should we surrender? No tell them to surrender!"

People like her have no concept of "losing", only a belief that everyone who disagrees is out to get them and any "loss" incurred in the fight is from jealous/hateful/nefarious people cheating to make her artificially lose, obviously. Right now, she's probably fuming behind closed doors that the Judge in this case is a racist alt-right Trump appointee.... that's the only reason she could have possibly LOST.

She's a vindictive self-important narcissist, and people like that are impervious to fact. Tell them there's a 1 in a billion chance what they're doing will work, and they'll say "Good thing I'm that "1", isn't it? Boy are my enemies gonna be pissed when I win against THOSE odds!"
 
Akilah Saidah Kamaria Hughes. Quite the name. She is very handsome with the natural hair.

Interesting that she used 'kiwirabbit' as a handle back in the day, @kiwirabbitfru on Twitter, wonder what explains that.

I would like to know more about the $40k that she raised for liver surgery/lyme disease/self care.
https://archive.li/pfcq2
In her own book, she says that the tumor she had removed were benign.
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But I guess it was making her feel fatter. So, the best possible use of everyone's money was to help her lose weight.
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https://archive.li/ok1dY
I like that she moved coasts because she felt the selfie light would be better in California, too.
Well Carl's lawyers are gonna collect their attorney fees if she is in Cali
 
Reply Memorandum of Law in Support of Sargon of Akkad’s Motion for Attorney’s Fees and Costs

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This is why when your lawyer tells you to shut up about pending litigation, you shut up.

As much of a blowhard as Sargon is, he had the sense to follow that advice while Hughes either got shitty advice or ignored good advice she got, shot off her mouth like an idiot, and is now going to have to make good on the check her sass wrote for her.
 
Nice.

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This is why when your lawyer tells you to shut up about pending litigation, you shut up.

As much of a blowhard as Sargon is, he had the sense to follow that advice while Hughes either got shitty advice or ignored good advice she got, shot off her mouth like an idiot, and is now going to have to make good on the check her sass wrote for her.
Today I learned the "it was a joke bro!" is not a viable defense in court.
 
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